Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 24.03.2009 11:21, Paul Querna wrote: Hi, At ApacheCon, we have had a discussion about APR 2.x and APR-Util. In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2 library. In the long term, we would like to split out things that add extra

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Mladen Turk
Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 24.03.2009 11:21, Paul Querna wrote: Hi, At ApacheCon, we have had a discussion about APR 2.x and APR-Util. In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2 library. In the long term, we would like to split out things that

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 25.03.2009 08:45, Mladen Turk wrote: Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 24.03.2009 11:21, Paul Querna wrote: Hi, At ApacheCon, we have had a discussion about APR 2.x and APR-Util. In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2 library. In the long

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Mladen Turk
Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 25.03.2009 08:45, Mladen Turk wrote: Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 24.03.2009 11:21, Paul Querna wrote: Hi, At ApacheCon, we have had a discussion about APR 2.x and APR-Util. In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 25.03.2009 09:04, Mladen Turk wrote: Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 25.03.2009 08:45, Mladen Turk wrote: Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 24.03.2009 11:21, Paul Querna wrote: Hi, At ApacheCon, we have had a discussion about APR 2.x and APR-Util. In the short term, we would like to merge the two

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Mladen Turk
Ruediger Pluem wrote: And I think the expat is missing from xml. So the --with-expat=builtin doesn't work Bundled expat was removed in r757820. So it cannot work anymore. So what's the solution for Windows? How did we compensate the removal of the bundled pcre in httpd on trunk? We

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Joe Orton
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:45:37AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: And I think the expat is missing from xml. So the --with-expat=builtin doesn't work If you unpack a tarball of expat and plonk it at xml/expat it should still work; none of the build infrastructure has been removed on the Unix side.

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Mladen Turk
Joe Orton wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:45:37AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: And I think the expat is missing from xml. So the --with-expat=builtin doesn't work If you unpack a tarball of expat and plonk it at xml/expat it should still work; none of the build infrastructure has been removed

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Querna
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Mladen Turk mt...@apache.org wrote: Joe Orton wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:45:37AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: And I think the expat is missing from xml. So the --with-expat=builtin doesn't work If you unpack a tarball of expat and plonk it at xml/expat

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Mladen Turk
Paul Querna wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Mladen Turk mt...@apache.org wrote: Joe Orton wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:45:37AM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: And I think the expat is missing from xml. So the --with-expat=builtin doesn't work If you unpack a tarball of expat and plonk

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
2009/3/25 Mladen Turk mt...@apache.org: Fine but the answer doesn't explain how to build the httpd on windows. Just like you have to plop in pcre now on Win32, you have to plop in expat. *shrug* -- justin

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Mladen Turk wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: 2009/3/25 Mladen Turk mt...@apache.org: Fine but the answer doesn't explain how to build the httpd on windows. Just like you have to plop in pcre now on Win32, you have to plop in expat. *shrug* -- justin Right, but what's with the official

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Once upon a time there were two, now four external libraries to grab. No big change. [And that wasn't counting as many as six or so db providers!]

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Mladen Turk
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Just like you have to plop in pcre now on Win32, you have to plop in expat. *shrug* -- justin Right, but what's with the official binaries. There will be certainly some explicit versions used and ploped in, or is the at Bill's liberty to choose what he thinks is

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread Mladen Turk
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: That's fine. Anyhow I'd love to INSTALL updated (Windows section doesn't mention anything about dependencies) with the url where to pick the (eventually preferred) version, and release NOTES with the version used for building official binary

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Mladen Turk wrote: That's fine. Anyhow I'd love to INSTALL updated (Windows section doesn't mention anything about dependencies) with the url where to pick the (eventually preferred) version, and release NOTES with the version used for building official binary version. Also, what's the new

Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Querna
Hi, At ApacheCon, we have had a discussion about APR 2.x and APR-Util. In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2 library. In the long term, we would like to split out things that add extra dependencies to their own sub-libraries. What I am

RE: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-24 Thread Bing Swen
Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:22 PM In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2 library. This is very good for simplifying the updating of the library. What about apr-iconv? It still has a reduced function set

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Bing Swen bs...@pku.edu.cn wrote: This is very good for simplifying the updating of the library. What about apr-iconv? It still has a reduced function set of libiconv prior to 2000. When we've brought this up in the past, I believe we felt that apr-iconv

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-24 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Bing Swen bs...@pku.edu.cn wrote: This is very good for simplifying the updating of the library. What about apr-iconv? It still has a reduced function set of libiconv prior to 2000. When we've brought

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Bing Swen wrote: Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:22 PM In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2 library. This is very good for simplifying the updating of the library. What about apr-iconv? It still has a

Re: Combining APR and APR-Util

2009-03-24 Thread Issac Goldstand
Paul Querna wrote: Hi, At ApacheCon, we have had a discussion about APR 2.x and APR-Util. In the short term, we would like to merge the two libraries, into one monolithic giant APR 2 library. In the long term, we would like to split out things that add extra dependencies to their own