Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Davi Arnaut
Hi Can't we get rid of the builtin expat on trunk? Yesterday I had yet another problem linking python (python-xml) and a static build apr-util together on a pretty complex application. I know I should have linked apr-util with the system expat, but then what's the point of having one builtin?

Re: svn commit: r560688 - /apr/apr-util/trunk/build/apu-conf.m4

2007-07-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/29/07, Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, why the save/restore of CPPFLAGS/LDFLAGS? This is only necessary when there is some failure case where the changes made will not persist until build time, so should not affect subsequent tests. For cases like e.g. --with-expat=/path, the

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/29/07, Davi Arnaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can't we get rid of the builtin expat on trunk? Yesterday I had yet another problem linking python (python-xml) and a static build apr-util together on a pretty complex application. I know I should have linked apr-util with the system

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Davi Arnaut
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/29/07, Davi Arnaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can't we get rid of the builtin expat on trunk? Yesterday I had yet another problem linking python (python-xml) and a static build apr-util together on a pretty complex application. I know I should have linked

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/29/07, Davi Arnaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need to bundle it because it's a mandatory API, we just have to explain to (win32) users how to extract a recent expat at xml/. It's not a matter of API and we don't *need* to bundle expat, it's becoming a burden. No - the last time I

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Davi Arnaut
Davi Arnaut wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/29/07, Davi Arnaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need to bundle it because it's a mandatory API, we just have to explain to (win32) users how to extract a recent expat at xml/. It's not a matter of API and we don't *need* to bundle expat,

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Davi Arnaut
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/29/07, Davi Arnaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need to bundle it because it's a mandatory API, we just have to explain to (win32) users how to extract a recent expat at xml/. It's not a matter of API and we don't *need* to bundle expat, it's becoming a

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/29/07, Davi Arnaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need to bundle it because it's a mandatory API, we just have to explain to (win32) users how to extract a recent expat at xml/. It's not a matter of API and we don't *need* to bundle expat, it's becoming a

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Nick Kew
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:58:26 -0700 Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/07, Davi Arnaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can't we get rid of the builtin expat on trunk? Yesterday I had yet another problem linking python (python-xml) and a static build apr-util together on a

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Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/29/07, Nick Kew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who does is a self-selecting techie. How hard can it be to list dependencies and where to get them? Yes of course binary packages with shiny installers should bundle dependencies, but that's not at all the same as

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/29/07, Nick Kew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who does is a self-selecting techie. How hard can it be to list dependencies and where to get them? Yes of course binary packages with shiny installers should bundle dependencies, but that's not at all the same as bundling in a source

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Davi Arnaut
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/29/07, Nick Kew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who does is a self-selecting techie. How hard can it be to list dependencies and where to get them? Yes of course binary packages with shiny installers should bundle dependencies, but

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Davi Arnaut wrote: And why expat? Can't we in the future provide a common layer for other xml parsers? Who's going to keep expat up to date? Davi; your arguments are generation 2.0 discussions. Why keep rehashing? Start engineering changes to trunk. If you want to rip out expat right now

Re: SVN CLI and Windows security

2007-07-29 Thread Erik Huelsmann
On 7/25/07, Brad Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into a situation today concerning the command line client and windows security. The problem is that the user (a build user performing automated builds on a Windows 2003 VM) attempted to check out a file to a network share and couldn't,

Re: SVN CLI and Windows security

2007-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Erik Huelsmann wrote: On 7/25/07, Brad Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into a situation today concerning the command line client and windows security. The problem is that the user (a build user performing automated builds on a Windows 2003 VM) attempted to check out a file to a

Re: SVN CLI and Windows security

2007-07-29 Thread Erik Huelsmann
On 7/29/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Huelsmann wrote: On 7/25/07, Brad Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into a situation today concerning the command line client and windows security. The problem is that the user (a build user performing automated builds

Re: svn commit: r560688 - /apr/apr-util/trunk/build/apu-conf.m4

2007-07-29 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 29, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/29/07, Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, why the save/restore of CPPFLAGS/LDFLAGS? This is only necessary when there is some failure case where the changes made will not persist until build time, so should not affect

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread Paul Querna
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Davi Arnaut wrote: And why expat? Can't we in the future provide a common layer for other xml parsers? Who's going to keep expat up to date? Davi; your arguments are generation 2.0 discussions. Why keep rehashing? I also believe we should remove expat. No one

Re: Get rid of builtin expat

2007-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Paul Querna wrote: Thoughts? Prefer detected 1.95 generation expat. Fall over to ours if not found, at all. Don't accept anything but a 2.0 or 1.95 generation expat at this moment, since we don't know what we would do with anything else. In 2.0.0 if you want to remove expat, we'll fork