RE: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-26 Thread Leo Sutic
> From: Farr, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I understand this and I just wanted clarification since in > many cases it's a fine line between stating something is > based on Avalon and stating it is endorsed by Avalon. > > In any case, back to my original query, it sounds like > Phoenix

Re: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-26 Thread Berin Loritsch
Farr, Aaron wrote: -Original Message- From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The big thing is that you can't make it look like a project is an official Apache or official Avalon project with the same management board, etc. As long as you don't do that, all is well. And you can

RE: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-26 Thread Farr, Aaron
> -Original Message- > > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > The big thing is that you can't make it look like a project > > is an official Apache or official Avalon project with the > > same management board, etc. As long as you don't do that, > > all is well. > > An

RE: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-26 Thread Leo Sutic
> From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The big thing is that you can't make it look like a project > is an official Apache or official Avalon project with the > same management board, etc. As long as you don't do that, > all is well. And you can also not make it sound like Apa

Re: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-26 Thread Berin Loritsch
Leo Sutic wrote: Aaron, I think the problem is "promotion": From: J Aaron Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Projects derived from Avalon with a name that includes Avalon, Phoenix,... ie- PhoenixJMS, AvalonJMX, AWF (Avalon Web Framework), MyAvalon, etc. Yes, this is a problem, since it im

RE: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-26 Thread Leo Sutic
> From: J Aaron Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 1. AFAIK it's a violation of the Avalon Phoenix license: > > The names "Avalon", "Phoenix" and "Apache Software Foundation" > must not be used to endorse or promote products > derived from this > software without prior written

RE: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-26 Thread Leo Sutic
Aaron, I think the problem is "promotion": > From: J Aaron Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Projects derived from Avalon with a name that includes > Avalon, Phoenix,... ie- PhoenixJMS, AvalonJMX, AWF (Avalon > Web Framework), MyAvalon, etc. Yes, this is a problem, since it implies tha

Re: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-25 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 22:14, Peter Donald wrote: > > > - Use of any Apache or Avalon logos, icons, etc. > > Apache logos have a policy document describing usage but Avalon logos policy > is decided by Avalon PMC. So what does the PMC think about this: http://jadetower.org/images/avalon-power.p

Re: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:14 pm, Peter Donald wrote: > > - Projects which state in their documentation things like: > > "Based on Apache Avalon" > > "Powered by Apache Avalon" > > "Avalon compatible" > > "Works with/in Apache Avalon Containers" > > Those are not compatible. Should read "those

Re: Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:00 pm, J Aaron Farr wrote: > Reason I'm cc'ing this to the dev list is because it addresses the larger > question of Avalon based projects. If I understand correctly, the > following are all not legit unless given permission: > > - Projects derived from Avalon with a name th

Avalon Namespace (was: Re: new phoenixjms)

2003-06-25 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 18:36, Alexis Agahi wrote: > paul hammant is also very interested in having a phoenixjms upgraded & working. Okay, I'll start working out a way to update cvs with the changes I made. I'll probably send a specific email on that to you and paul later. I wanted to ask about t

Re: new phoenixjms

2003-06-25 Thread Alexis Agahi
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 06:43, J Aaron Farr wrote: > Hello. > > Okay, it's not an official phoenixjms upgrade, since I haven't had > anyone from that team respond to my emails (it's been a little while > too), so technically this is a fork though I'd love to contribute it > back to the project.

new phoenixjms

2003-06-24 Thread J Aaron Farr
Hello. Okay, it's not an official phoenixjms upgrade, since I haven't had anyone from that team respond to my emails (it's been a little while too), so technically this is a fork though I'd love to contribute it back to the project. Anyway, it's updated for openjms 0.7.5 and it runs in both phoen