On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Leonard Mada wrote:
I strongly suggest moving this page to a new location, something like:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Bibliographic_Project/Plugins/Zote
ro instead of creating such orphaned pages.
Leonard,
Thanks for the the suggestion. When I
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
So I'd like to see if we can work with developers from Zotero, JabRef,
etc. to enhance that baseline support. If out that some other
developer start to build the integrated tool we originally envisioned,
that's great. But I don't think we can depend
I largely different with Bruce, and encourage the development of Bibliographic
applications that can effectively interact with OpenOffice. I differ from
Bruce in not yet being fully convinced that we should abandon the idea of
building a native integrated bibliographic facility in to
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 7:39 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
I'm wondering about a simpler approach still. I am thinking of
properties like just citation, shortCitation and bibliographicEntry. In
that scheme, if we have a citation like (Doe, 1999, 2000; see also
Smith, 1993):
- ref 1 and 3
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
My colleague David Wilson has posted the requirements
he sees (though I've had time to look at them in depth), and I've
noted that ZOOM may well provide a ready made API complete with
freely available code.
I have posted the basic requirement (as I
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Feb 10, 2007, at 9:20 PM, David Wilson wrote:
I put together my ideas about possible Citeproc - Writer Interaction
at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Citeproc_Writer_Interaction
I think we might need to pull back and get more abstract
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Feb 11, 2007, at 4:11 PM, David Wilson wrote:
I will work on it today.
OK, just to be clear, we're laying out the requirements fro a
cross-application API. It would be used to assess whether ZOOM is good
as is, whether it needs to be adapted
the GUI panel.
Footnote citation options are -
*Force Short/long title,
*Suppress Publisher
regards
David
On Thursday 25 January 2007 9:14 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Jan 24, 2007, at 4:37 PM, David Wilson wrote:
Ibidem has several other insert citation options including - a custom
FYI
If you are interested you could support Tobias' research.
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Subject: OpenOffice.org Survey
Date: Saturday 04 November 2006 6:51 am
From: Tobias Brenner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Perhaps a compromise would be to have only one entry in the database, to show
that it works and is easier (if you do not know the select delete record
process) to remove.
Most mail apps came with a welcome mail message.
David
On Thursday 26 October 2006 4:55 am, Matthias Basler wrote:
Bruce
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 3:44 am, you wrote:
But if it is really disturbing, we have some protocols for changing a
feature in OOo .. this usually start by reporting an issue. (So that the
change is trackable)
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=70760 Remove the sample
content
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 4:43 am, you wrote:
The more I think about it, my half-hearted suggestion for a feature
prohibiting saving a document with (recommended core) meta data blanks
might not be so harsh.
It is partly there already - the option Edit document properties before
saving in
On Monday 23 October 2006 7:38 am, Gannon Dick wrote:
You do start to lose me just a little bit when you talk about a generic
API for meta data. For reasons outlined here ...
http://www.geocities.com/gannon_dick/TheBigPicture.pdf (case sensitive)
I believe that a meta data API needs a
Jakob
I have been reading the Extensions project documentation
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions .
I get the impression that what you are trying to should be possible. It might
be that you need to add two OObasic macros - one that initialise/opens your
file at document open
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 8:53 am, you wrote:
On 03/10/06, David Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whilst we need to wait for some developments with ODF, the Extension
Toolkit and some Writer enhancements (formatted text in fields). There is
still plenty of design work that can be done. We
Leonard Mada.
Your have raised some very interesting questions. I think the idea of
setting
a scheme for sharing subject specific key word lists is well worth
considering - and rather simple to implement.
David
On Wednesday 27 September 2006 7:51 am, Leonard Mada wrote:
Hi,
I
On Saturday 02 September 2006 1:14 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On 9/1/06, Jakob Lechner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We consider the primary use case of smart tags to be to link
words (that are recognized by an external library) in a document with
actions provided by this library. The user usually
I read through the exchange and I think you put your position very well and
the response was rather defensively or evasive.
David
On Saturday 15 July 2006 10:52 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
So based on back-and-forth with the product manager responsible for
the new bib support in Word 2007*:
On Sunday 16 July 2006 9:47 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
And I think with some caveats, they will have met these goals. I am
particularly intrigued by their no-local-database approach, where the
editing forms are only editing XML data embedded in the file package.
This is something we need to
One of the nice things about wiki's is that you set up a page and the pixies
come in night and make it better. (Not at all like the Deteriorating Angel
that comes in the night to make you a tiny bit older).
I set up a wiki page about keywords with discoleo's suggestions about
keywords -
I have been thinking about the options needed for the Insert/ Edit Citation
panel.
Yet another history complexity.
This one is from my thesis. Whilst the thesis citation style is Chicago
footnotes, the thesis is principally an examination of two texts and I
followed the convention of
My guess is that for the final production version that would eventually ship
with OpenOffice, would need need either separate language versions of the CSL
files or internationalization via the use strings in a separate files.
In styles like Chicago there are a few language specific strings
=doitnewqueryname=order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timeSubmit+query=Submit+query
regards
David
On Sunday 25 June 2006 9:21 am, David Wilson wrote:
Bibliographic Project List members,
One of the ways the OpenOffice developers access the importance of fixed
and enhancements to OpenOffice is through
FYI
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Subject: Re: [dev] Will OOo version 3 preserve backwards file compatibility
with OOo 2 ?
Date: Wednesday 28 June 2006 7:05 pm
From: Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dev@openoffice.org
David,
David Wilson wrote:
In terms
I would like to enter an issue to enhance database and text fields to support
formatted text.
The Bibliographic project wants this enhancement because some data fields in
the bibliography need to support formatted text. For example some scientific
document titles need to be able to display
Can anyone advise us as whether OOo version 3 will preserve backwards file
compatibility with OOo 2 ? Has this matter been decided yet, or does the
major release number mean that compatibility does not need to be conserved ?
In designing the bibliographic enhancements the Bibliographic Project
discoleo has submitted an interesting enhancement request. I created a wiki
page http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Bib-Keywords to discuss such
issues.
===
discoleo wrote ---
One way to better sort articles is based on Keywords. However, there is
another way I will shortly
Ryan,
Thanks for your interest and offer of assistance. Unfortunately we have
no
finished software to test yet, and what we have is not yet sufficiently
developed to document.
If you would like to exercise your skills in writing you could look over the
project web pages for areas
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 8:49 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:26 AM, David Wilson wrote:
You can use Xforms in OOo but it is harder to use than Base forms
which are of
the point and click type, to link database fields to form fields.
So what kind of form functionality
On Thursday 06 April 2006 4:24 am, Matthias Steffens wrote:
On Wed, 5-Apr-2006 10:27 -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Yes, that's a very nice feature. However, when I'm writing a paper, 95%
of the cited references do already exist in my bibliographic database
and I want to use these (and not a
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 1:02 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Also CiteProc is working right now using data stored in an eXist xml
database.
The quickest way to build something that works would be to build a
xforms
based browser to work with eXist and a function to inset the selected
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 6:40 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Matt Price wrote:
comment: seems to me that it might be a good idea to start some of the
actual deletion/consolidation suggested by Bruce or others. WHile
fairly exhaustive, the document is currently
On Friday 31 March 2006 9:41 am, Matt Price wrote:
Snip
Alternatively, would it make most sense to design the bibliographic
database next -- since there are so few C coders here, but many people
with some database experience?
Accepting Matt's good idea I have created a Bibliographic
On Friday 31 March 2006 9:41 am, Matt Price wrote:
Hi David,
Alternatively, would it make most sense to design the bibliographic
database next --
Yes that is a task that could be started now.
I notice I have not included the database design / build task on the
Developers page.
On Monday 27 March 2006 12:15 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Snip
Anyway, here's the relevant page:
http://api.openoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/text/
BibliographyDataField.html
OK, good news:
There is, in fact, a reference class. It's very limited, just being a
series of
On Monday 27 March 2006 12:15 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
snip .
Bad news:
I might be wrong, but it seems that the current design assumes one
would always have a bibliography. The description, for example, says:
These values define parts of bibliographic data. They are used to
create a
First I would like to express my gratitude to CPHennessy for putting in such
an effort under difficult circumstance, not helped much by my documentation.
On Sunday 26 March 2006 2:33 am, CPHennessy wrote:
In the new approach, those five citations each point to the same --
single -- metadata
On Sunday 26 March 2006 2:21 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Mar 25, 2006, at 9:09 AM, CPHennessy wrote:
2 - (is a consequence of the above or make the decision for us) can one
citation be displayed in several ways in the same document at the same
time ?
There is the case where some styles
Hi,
You may have noticed OpenOffice.org is a running competition for developer
articles. These are articles written to help developers working on
OOo. The award sum is $750 USD. The official announcement of the competition
is below.
---
All,
The tcluno team has announced the release 0.2 of tcluno. Tcluno is a set of
Tcl packages, which provide acccess to OpenOffice.org using
the urp socket interface. One part of the packages (unospection) allows
interactive introspection and driving of a running OpenOffice.org process
(server).
On Monday 02 January 2006 3:09 am, CPHennessy wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have an example file (i.e. the contents.xml and others with
the right format), for the new citation. I want a complete file as it is
not clear to me where the citation xml actually sits in the ODT file and
hence it is hard
On Monday 02 January 2006 3:09 am, CPHennessy wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have an example file (i.e. the contents.xml and others with
the right format), for the new citation. I want a complete file as it is
not clear to me where the citation xml actually sits in the ODT file and
hence it is hard
The OOo Bibliographic Project (OOoBib) is pleased to announce the release of
its development plans. The plans are available at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_talk:Dnw . We have placed our
plans on the wiki site as we hope developers will contribute by adding
information to
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 11:20 am, CPHennessy wrote:
On Sat December 10 2005 18:50, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On 12/10/05, CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bruce,
Nice work. Can you also update it to add something relevant to my
questions/suggestions :
Yes, forgot to mention
Bruce
I have busy with other things including Christmas shopping, to this has been a
bit slow in coming.
I have update the http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/developer1.html page and
hope I have amended as to your suggestions.
I will try to get it on the Wiki site tomorrow.
David
, which I have almost fixed.
Regards
On Monday 05 December 2005 11:36 am, CPHennessy wrote:
On Sun December 4 2005 21:40, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Dec 4, 2005, at 4:20 PM, David Wilson wrote:
On Monday 05 December 2005 12:06 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Two quick things David:
1) I
I think the answer might be to remove the sorting from the CLS process. I will
explain -
I have been looking at my style guide again. They suggest an example with
several levels of Grouping and sorting: For example -
==
Primary Sources
Published Sources
On Monday 21 November 2005 3:05 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
I am still considering the other points but I can make a comment on this.
3) Primary and secondary sources. This is a tricky one, as David has
made the argument one would need to assign groups in this case. I am
assuming the
On Monday 21 November 2005 9:03 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Nov 20, 2005, at 4:47 PM, David Wilson wrote:
I have now just realised that this means that not only do users need
to be
able to specify the groupings for the bibliography (primary and
secondary,
and any others) but that user
On Sunday 13 November 2005 4:07 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Just a quick update:
Long story here, but the short take-home point is that I'll be leading
an effort -- hosted by the new OpenDocument Fellowship -- to design a
proposal to significantly enhance metadata support in OpenDocument.
That
Edward,
Welcome to our project, I am sure you will be be able to find
some
interesting way to use your programming skills to help us. Please keep in
touch.
David
On Sunday 13 November 2005 8:32 am, Edward Summers wrote:
On Nov 12, 2005, at 3:21 PM, David Wilson wrote:
My
Matej,
Thanks for the suggestion, I have not come across Bibshare
before. I will
add a reference to it to the biblio-sw web page.
David
On Monday 07 November 2005 2:14 am, Matej Cepl wrote:
Hi,
just to ask for adding another bibliographic project to the list on
Some of the problems we have been dealing with the question of mapping the
standard document types to MODS and how to design a user interface to
collect reference data. I have thinking about how the other Bibliographic
applications use standard document types and I think we should try a
Jorg
Our developer page has a few bits of sample code. Whilst the literature
database can be user-defined it has to be given the DataSource name
Bibliography for the bibliographic functions to work with it.
I have quoted a small python routine below that reads entries from the
Jozef,
There is something you can do fix the problem, create a unique index
for the
identifier.
See the document
http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/files/documents/124/1284/HOWTO-increaseFieldSizes-V1.0.sxw
for instructions. You can not create the index until you have removed the
I still have dial-up ISP link with a quota and I have used my month,s
allocation I will have a wait for a few days before I can look at it.
David
On Monday 07 March 2005 12:37 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
Since my platform is officially unsupported (um, Sun, how about getting
a clue on Mac
I have been in contact with Andreas Martens, the Project Lead for the
word-processor project. I outlined the scope, approach and objectives of our
project in December 2004. He has discussed them with Oliver Specht the User
Interface project leader. Andreas responded -
The support of a useful
Matthias,
No offence is taken from fair comment and criticism.
I do not have much time as I have to go out soon. But I want to make a brief
comment.
I have also been frustrated that so little has been done to make even minor
corrections and improvements to the existing bibliographic system.
On Friday 18 February 2005 02:49, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On Feb 17, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Matthew Yates wrote:
I cannot write the grant myself (I am not a developer
and do not know a lot about the openoffice.org
organization). However, I do have experience writing
grants and would be willing
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