Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-20 Thread Jeff Jirsa
Got it, thanks for the correction. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 4:28 PM Brandon Williams wrote: > I believe you can run them on 11, but you can't build them on it. > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:11 PM Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > > > I still dont get it, because you can't use any released version of > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-20 Thread Brandon Williams
I believe you can run them on 11, but you can't build them on it. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:11 PM Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > I still dont get it, because you can't use any released version of > cassandra with anything other than jdk8. > > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 2:50 PM Patrick McFadin wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-20 Thread Jeff Jirsa
I still dont get it, because you can't use any released version of cassandra with anything other than jdk8. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 2:50 PM Patrick McFadin wrote: > Follow-up on the informal poll I did on twitter: > https://twitter.com/patrickmcfadin/status/1282791302065557504?s=21 > >

[RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 released

2020-07-20 Thread Mick Semb Wever
The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache Cassandra version 4.0-beta1. Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the right choice when you need scalability and high availability without compromising performance. http://cassandra.apache.org/ Downloads of

Re: [DISCUSS] Revisiting Java 11's experimental status

2020-07-20 Thread Patrick McFadin
Follow-up on the informal poll I did on twitter: https://twitter.com/patrickmcfadin/status/1282791302065557504?s=21 Offered up as data to be used as you will. 161 votes <= JDK8: 59% JDK9 or 10: 7% JDK11 or 12: 27% JDK13 or 14: 7% On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 3:19 AM Robert Stupp wrote: > Yea,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 4.0-beta1 for release. > > sha1: 972da6fcffa87b3a1684362a2bab97db853372d8 > … > The vote will be open for 60 hours (longer if needed). I've taken 12 hours off the normal 72 hours and this follows closely after the initial 4.0-beta1 vote. Everyone who has

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread sankalp kohli
+1 On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:58 AM Blake Eggleston wrote: > +1 > > > On Jul 20, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Jon Haddad wrote: > > > > +1, thanks Mick for rerolling. > > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:42 AM Joshua McKenzie > > wrote: > > > >> +1 > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:51 AM Jake Luciani

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread Blake Eggleston
+1 > On Jul 20, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Jon Haddad wrote: > > +1, thanks Mick for rerolling. > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:42 AM Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:51 AM Jake Luciani wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:08 AM Andrés de la Peña < >>>

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Blake Eggleston
Characterizing alternate or conflicting points of view as assuming bad intentions without justification is both unproductive and unhealthy for the project. > On Jul 20, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > This kind of back and forth isn't productive for the project so I'm not >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread Jon Haddad
+1, thanks Mick for rerolling. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:42 AM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:51 AM Jake Luciani wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:08 AM Andrés de la Peña < > > a.penya.gar...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > +1 (nb) > > > > > > On Mon,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1

2020-07-20 Thread Scott Hirleman
I'll add in here as someone who was acting as PM on a lot of cross-team projects at my last few gigs, this is a good example of coordination improving the process. If people are unwilling to change their opinions or even express them, that is an issue. Timing of release/progress is important and

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Blake Eggleston
I don't think Benedict mentioned anything about people's motives or intentions, he simply had a concern about how marketing timelines became a factor in a release vote without the approval of the PMC. I think this is a reasonable concern, and doesn't mean that he's assuming bad intentions.

Re: [NOTICE] ApacheCon talk submission voting

2020-07-20 Thread Ekaterina Dimitrova
Hi Nate, In case this got open to contributors and not only committers, I would be happy to assist with the activities, too. Best regards, Ekaterina On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 at 17:06, Nate McCall wrote: > > > > Count me in. Happy to assist. > > > > I mean, I basically did already since you were my

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Melissa Logan
Thank you, Mick, Sally et al. Appreciate this discussion. Coordinating media releases around open source releases is not something I've seen much of, or have much experience with. I can imagine that it is always going to be clumsy around an organic group of individuals around the world,

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
Firstly, that is a very strong claim that in this particular case is disputed by the facts. You made a very specific claim that the delay was "risking our currently lined up coordination with journalists and other channels". I am not the only person to interpret this as implying coordination

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> > There has been nothing about this internally at DS > > I would ask that you refrain from making such claims, unless you can be > certain that you would have been privy to all such internal discussions. Benedict, re-reading it I realised that sentence lost some important words during my

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Joshua McKenzie
> > If you are criticised, it is often because of the action you took; Actually, in this case and many others it's because of people's unfounded assumptions about motives, incentives, and actions taken and has little to do with reality. Which is the definition of not assuming positive intent. On

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
Thanks Sally, really appreciate your insight. To respond to the community discourse around this: > Keep your announcement plans ... private: limit discussions to the PMC This is all that I was asking and expecting: if somebody is making commitments on behalf of the community (such as that a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread Joshua McKenzie
+1 On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:51 AM Jake Luciani wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:08 AM Andrés de la Peña < > a.penya.gar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > +1 (nb) > > > > On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 12:58, João Reis wrote: > > > > > +1 (nb) > > > > > > The drivers smoke test suite looks good: >

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Sally Khudairi
Hello everyone --Mick pinged me about this; I wanted to respond on-list for efficacy. We've had dozens of companies successfully help Apache Projects and their communities help spread the word on their projects with their PR and marketing teams. Here are some best practices: 1) Timing. Ensure

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread Jake Luciani
+1 On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:08 AM Andrés de la Peña wrote: > +1 (nb) > > On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 12:58, João Reis wrote: > > > +1 (nb) > > > > The drivers smoke test suite looks good: > > > > > > > https://ci.appveyor.com/project/DataStax/cassandra-drivers-smoke-test/builds/34194004 > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread Andrés de la Peña
+1 (nb) On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 12:58, João Reis wrote: > +1 (nb) > > The drivers smoke test suite looks good: > > > https://ci.appveyor.com/project/DataStax/cassandra-drivers-smoke-test/builds/34194004 > > Mick Semb Wever escreveu no dia sábado, 18/07/2020 à(s) > 00:27: > > > Proposing the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread João Reis
+1 (nb) The drivers smoke test suite looks good: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/DataStax/cassandra-drivers-smoke-test/builds/34194004 Mick Semb Wever escreveu no dia sábado, 18/07/2020 à(s) 00:27: > Proposing the test build of Cassandra 4.0-beta1 for release. > > sha1:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1 (take2)

2020-07-20 Thread Jasonstack Zhao Yang
+1 (nb) On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 at 07:01, Ekaterina Dimitrova wrote: > +1(nb) > > On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 18:13, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > > > > Proposing the test build of Cassandra 4.0-beta1 for release. > > > > > >

Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

2020-07-20 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> Our plan is to share the community-approved blog with reporters who have > expressed interest in Cassandra, which may result in coverage. We also > developed a 4.0 beta graphic that anyone is welcome to use. > > FWIW our timeline revolves around yours. We're ready to reach out just as > soon