Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread J. D. Jordan
That is my understanding as well. If the TCM and Accord based on TCM branches are ready to commit by ~12/1 we can cut a 5.1 branch and then a 5.1-alpha release.Where “ready to commit” means our usual things of two committer +1 and green CI etc.If we are not ready to commit then I propose that as lo

Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
Hoping we can get clarity on this. The proposal was, once TCM and Accord merges to trunk, then immediately branch cassandra-5.1 and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1 release. This was to focus on stabilising TCM and Accord as soon as it lands, hence the immediate branching. And the alpha release as t

Re: Removal of deprecations added in Cassandra 3.x

2023-10-30 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
Sure we can do that just for trunk. No problem with that. Hence, I am parking this effort for a while. From: Mick Semb Wever Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 22:56 To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Removal of deprecations added in Cassandra 3.x Net

Re: Removal of deprecations added in Cassandra 3.x

2023-10-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> similarly as for Cassandra 1.x and 2.x deprecations removal done in > CASSANDRA-18959, you are welcome to comment on the removal of all stuff > deprecated in 3.x (1). > > If nobody objects after couple days I would like to proceed to the actual > removal. Please tell me if you want something t

[VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-alpha2

2023-10-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-alpha2 for release. DISCLAIMER, this alpha release does not contain the features: Transactional Cluster Metadata (CEP-21) and Accord Transactions (CEP-15). These features are under discussion to be pushed to a 5.1-alpha1 release, with an eta still this ye

Removal of deprecations added in Cassandra 3.x

2023-10-30 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
Hi, similarly as for Cassandra 1.x and 2.x deprecations removal done in CASSANDRA-18959, you are welcome to comment on the removal of all stuff deprecated in 3.x (1). If nobody objects after couple days I would like to proceed to the actual removal. Please tell me if you want something to keep

Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Patrick McFadin
He's talking about my Accord talks ;) I'm sure I've said quite a few times that Accord is shipping with 5.0 at the end of 2023. That was a reasonable thing to say, but new information, new updates. If you scroll back 30-40 replies, I live-blogged my realization that's not going to happen and comin

[CMWG] November 1 meeting

2023-10-30 Thread Melissa Logan
Hi everyone, Please join us this Wednesday, November 1 for the monthly Cassandra Working Group (CMWG) meeting at 8am PT / 11 ET / 3pm UTC. Add your updates or new discussions/questions to the doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_73-iSjo1ZKKFn410rOCqNctnhNJOFLvbVA225OdrXY/edit If you need a

Call for Presentations now open: Community over Code EU 2024

2023-10-30 Thread Ryan Skraba
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Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
OK fair enough, I am taking that part back. From: Alex Petrov Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 11:45 To: dev Cc: Miklosovic, Stefan Subject: Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1) NetApp Security WARNING: This is

Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Alex Petrov
> I also do not understand what has some session about TCM and Accord in "New > Orleans" to do with it. Stefan, please make sure to read the context, and re-read my message, since it seems like you have completely misinterpreted it. My message states clearly that I was responding to someone say

Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Miklosovic, Stefan via dev
I could not agree more with what Benjamin just wrote. It is truly more about the visibility of the progress. If one looks at this (1), well, that seems like a pretty much finished epic, isn't it? If we make ML and Jira the only official sources of the truth, then there is no mentioning whatoeve

Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Benedict
nit: accord had no dependency on java17, it just wanted to drop support for java8 to make development easier due to bugs in the compiler. For some reason this got bundled into the work to support java17, but this was a false dependencyRegarding visibility, there’s a limit to how much time can be sp

Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Benjamin Lerer
> > The CEP process + dedicated development channels on ASF slack + public > JIRA's + feature branches in the ASF repo we've seen with specifically TCM > and Accord are the most transparent this kind of development has *ever > been* on this project, and I'd argue right at the sweet spot or past > w

Re: Push TCM (CEP-21) and Accord (CEP-15) to 5.1 (and cut an immediate 5.1-alpha1)

2023-10-30 Thread Alex Petrov
> ACCORD in particular was hyped in numerous talks and presentations and noone > cautioned it might not hit 5.0, quite the opposite --so we need to ask > ourselves how people who go on stage as Cassandra experts are not aware that > it could slip. I re-watched the New Orleans talks on Accord an