Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

Following up on marketing contributions in process: 1. Stories have begun to post on 4.0 beta (Datanami , SDTimes , CBR

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

sorry, my phone got unlocked accidentally in my pocket. please ignore the empty email. On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 18:40, Jasonstack Zhao Yang < jasonstack.z...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Blake Eggleston 于 2020年7月21日周二 01:57写道： > >> Characterizing alternate or conflicting points of view as assuming bad >>

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

Blake Eggleston 于 2020年7月21日周二 01:57写道： > Characterizing alternate or conflicting points of view as assuming bad > intentions without justification is both unproductive and unhealthy for the > project. > > > On Jul 20, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > > > > This kind of back and fort

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

Characterizing alternate or conflicting points of view as assuming bad intentions without justification is both unproductive and unhealthy for the project. > On Jul 20, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > This kind of back and forth isn't productive for the project so I'm not > taking

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

For the 4.0 beta blog/infographic -- the PMC has approved and Sally has also reviewed. I'm happy to publish on site (per dev guidelines on GitHub) unless someone else would like to volunteer and has the dev environment already set up on their machine. If the latter, would you let me know today so

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

I will refer you to this the next time you publicly impugn my behaviour. If you are to make personal attacks, either defend them or stop making them. On 20/07/2020, 17:15, "Joshua McKenzie" wrote: This kind of back and forth isn't productive for the project so I'm not taking this disc

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

This kind of back and forth isn't productive for the project so I'm not taking this discussion further. Just want to call it out here so you or others aren't left waiting for a reply. We can agree to disagree. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:59 AM Benedict Elliott Smith wrote: > Firstly, that is a v

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

I don't think Benedict mentioned anything about people's motives or intentions, he simply had a concern about how marketing timelines became a factor in a release vote without the approval of the PMC. I think this is a reasonable concern, and doesn't mean that he's assuming bad intentions. That'

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

Thank you, Mick, Sally et al. Appreciate this discussion. Coordinating media releases around open source releases is not something I've seen much of, or have much experience with. I can imagine that it is always going to be clumsy around an organic group of individuals around the world, individual

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

Firstly, that is a very strong claim that in this particular case is disputed by the facts. You made a very specific claim that the delay was "risking our currently lined up coordination with journalists and other channels". I am not the only person to interpret this as implying coordination wi

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

> Hello everyone --Mick pinged me about this; I wanted to respond on-list for > efficacy. Thank you very much Sally! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassa

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

> > There has been nothing about this internally at DS > > I would ask that you refrain from making such claims, unless you can be > certain that you would have been privy to all such internal discussions. Benedict, re-reading it I realised that sentence lost some important words during my draft

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

> > If you are criticised, it is often because of the action you took; Actually, in this case and many others it's because of people's unfounded assumptions about motives, incentives, and actions taken and has little to do with reality. Which is the definition of not assuming positive intent. On

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

Thanks Sally, really appreciate your insight. To respond to the community discourse around this: > Keep your announcement plans ... private: limit discussions to the PMC This is all that I was asking and expecting: if somebody is making commitments on behalf of the community (such as that a rel

Re: Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

Hello everyone --Mick pinged me about this; I wanted to respond on-list for efficacy. We've had dozens of companies successfully help Apache Projects and their communities help spread the word on their projects with their PR and marketing teams. Here are some best practices: 1) Timing. Ensure

Media coordination (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-beta1)

> Our plan is to share the community-approved blog with reporters who have > expressed interest in Cassandra, which may result in coverage. We also > developed a 4.0 beta graphic that anyone is welcome to use. > > FWIW our timeline revolves around yours. We're ready to reach out just as > soon a