Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Joshua McKenzie
We have quite a few tickets still flagged for 4.0 that aren't in keeping with the idea that the code is frozen:

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-24 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Late comment, but I'll write it anyway. The main advantage of random allocation over the new allocation strategy is that it seems to be significantly better when dealing with node *removals*, when the order of removal is not the inverse of the order of addition. This can lead to severely

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Marcus Eriksson
ok, I guess I should read properly, we should only fix bugs On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:42 PM Marcus Eriksson wrote: > I have used the 4.0 version as a "we need this before releasing 4.0" - do > you have another way of marking tickets we need fixed before releasing? > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
I’d like to propose we don’t do Semver. Back when we did this before, there wasn’t any clear distinction between a major and a minor release. They were both infrequent, both big, and were treated as majors for EOL'ing support for older releases. This must surely have been confusing for

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
I think we’ve confused people plenty so far, that I’m not sure there’s much confusion to be saved by not making a clean break. For 3.x (where x > 0 and x < 11) were, after all, .[.] For some reason, at 11, we sort of switched back to semver? But seemingly only to enjoy everyone’s further

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Michael Shuler
On 9/24/18 7:09 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > I propose we move all new features and improvements to 4.0.x to keep the > surface area of change for the major stable. It occurs to me that we should probably update the version in trunk to 4.0.0, if we're following semantic versions. I suppose this

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Jeremiah D Jordan
So as to not confuse people, even if we never put out a 4.1, I think we should keep it 4.0.x, in line with 2.2.x, 3.0.x, 3.11.x. And yes our .. versioning of the past never followed semver. -Jeremiah > On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Benedict Elliott Smith > wrote: > > I’d like to propose we

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Aleksey Yeshchenko
We could continue as 4.0.x, 5.0.x, 6.0.x, 7.0.x, 8.0.x, 9.0.x, with minor forever fixed to 0. But I’m also struggling with how to justify the existence of that unused digit. We have never really done semantic versioning, we’ve arbitrarily flipped the major whenever we felt like “it was the

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Marcus Eriksson
I have used the 4.0 version as a "we need this before releasing 4.0" - do you have another way of marking tickets we need fixed before releasing? On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:09 PM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > We have quite a few tickets still flagged for 4.0 that aren't in keeping > with the idea

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Michael Shuler
On 9/24/18 12:21 PM, Aleksey Yeshchenko wrote: > We could continue as 4.0.x, 5.0.x, 6.0.x, 7.0.x, 8.0.x, 9.0.x, with > minor forever fixed to 0. > > But I’m also struggling with how to justify the existence of that > unused digit. We have never really done semantic versioning, we’ve > arbitrarily

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread kurt greaves
Yeah so lets not derail any further and just put them all to 4.x (as I'm sure OP originally intended) and we can figure out versioning later. On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 12:07, Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > > > I'm totally spitballing here on possible uses of meaningful minors. > > Continuing the

Re: TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2018-09-24 Thread Nate McCall
Just some housekeeping paper work for export controls per: http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14634 and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-358 if you're curios. On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:28 PM Nate McCall wrote: > > SUBMISSION

TSU NOTIFICATION - Encryption

2018-09-24 Thread Nate McCall
SUBMISSION TYPE: TSU SUBMITTED BY: Nate McCall SUBMITTED FOR:The Apache Software Foundation POINT OF CONTACT: Secretary, The Apache Software Foundation FAX: +1-919-573-9199 MANUFACTURER(S): The Apache Software Foundation, Oracle, The OpenSSL

Re: Moving tickets out of 4.0 post freeze

2018-09-24 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> I'm totally spitballing here on possible uses of meaningful minors. Continuing the splitballing… What about aligning native protocol or sstable format changes with the minor version? > Regardless, the OP's statement that new features and improvements should go > to 4.0.x seems wrong

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-24 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
This sounds worthy of a bug report! We should at least document any such inadequacy, and come up with a plan to fix it. It would be great if you could file a ticket with a detailed example of the problem. > On 24 Sep 2018, at 14:57, Tom van der Woerdt > wrote: > > Late comment, but I'll

Re: [DISCUSS] changing default token behavior for 4.0

2018-09-24 Thread Joseph Lynch
I am a big fan of lowering the default number of tokens for many reasons (availability, repair, etc...). I also agree there are some usability blockers to "just lowering the number today", but I very much agree that the current default of 256 random tokens is a huge bug I hope we fix by 4.0