Re: "4.0: TBD" -> "4.0: Est. Q4 2019"?

2019-09-25 Thread Jon Haddad
I think silence is a "nothing to add". At least it is from me.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 10:57 AM sankalp kohli  wrote:

> Can we put it on vote(if required) if no one has more comments?
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 5:44 PM Jonathan Koppenhofer 
> wrote:
>
> > Nice work... I like this and have no additions/comments at this time
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 4:18 PM sankalp kohli 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We added and changed a lot of things to this doc during a discussion in
> > > NGCC. Can everyone take a look at it and provide feedback.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:51 PM Dinesh Joshi 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have left some comments on the document. Apart from a few
> > > clarifications
> > > > and some minor changes, I feel its in a good shape. I think we should
> > > move
> > > > forward with it. We can refine the process, definitions & criteria as
> > we
> > > > learn.
> > > >
> > > > Dinesh
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 11, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Sumanth Pasupuleti <
> > > > sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > One more call for any additional comments/ feedback on the release
> > > > > lifecycle document
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bS6sr-HSrHFjZb0welife6Qx7u3ZDgRiAoENMLYlfz8/edit#
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Sumanth
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 1:01 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti <
> > > > > sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Submitted patch to add release lifecycle information to the
> website
> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15249
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:57 AM Oleksandr Petrov <
> > > > >> oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Maybe a bit off-topic:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Before we cut a release, we should make sure we take care of beta
> > > > protocol
> > > > >>> [1], include released driver versions [2] and remove compact
> > storage
> > > > >>> remainders [3]. Third one is optional, but I'd argue we should do
> > it
> > > > >>> sooner
> > > > >>> rather than later.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14973
> > > > >>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13951
> > > > >>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13994
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:25 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti <
> > > > >>> sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > >  Thanks for the feedback Scott. I have incorporated all the
> > > incremental
> > > >  feedback I have thus far.
> > > > 
> > > >  Looking for any additional feedback folks may have.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bS6sr-HSrHFjZb0welife6Qx7u3ZDgRiAoENMLYlfz8/edit#
> > > > 
> > > >  On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 11:54 AM Scott Andreas <
> > > sc...@paradoxica.net>
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for starting this discussion, Sumanth! Added a round of
> > > > >>> comments
> > > >  as
> > > > > well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Summarizing my non-binding feedback: I feel that many of the
> > items
> > > > >>> under
> > > > > "Alpha" and "Beta" should be achieved prior to the release of
> an
> > > > >>> alpha,
> > > > > especially those related to correctness/safety, scope lock,
> > feature
> > > > > completeness, deprecation, and backwards compatibility.
> > > Establishing
> > > > a
> > > > > higher standard for official project releases (even at the
> alpha
> > > and
> > > > >>> beta
> > > > > stage) will help us really polish the final build together.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ideally, I feel that contributors should have completed
> extensive
> > > > > testing/validation to ensure that no critical or severe bugs
> > exist
> > > > >>> prior
> > > >  to
> > > > > the release of an alpha (e.g., data loss, consistency
> violations,
> > > >  incorrect
> > > > > responses to queries, etc). Perhaps we can add a line to this
> > > effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ensuring that we've met that bar prior to alpha will help us
> > focus
> > > > the
> > > > > final stages of the release on gathering feedback from users +
> > > > >>> developers
> > > > > to validate tooling and automation; compatibility with less
> > > > >>> commonly-used
> > > > > client libraries, testing new features, evaluating performance
> > and
> > > > > stability under their workloads, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > – Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/11/19, 6:45 AM, "Sumanth Pasupuleti" <
> > > > > sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks for the feedback on the product stages/ release life
> > > cycle
> > > > > document.
> > > > >I have incorporated the suggestions and looking for any
> > > additional
> > > > > feedback
> > > > >folks may have.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > 

Re: "4.0: TBD" -> "4.0: Est. Q4 2019"?

2019-09-25 Thread sankalp kohli
Can we put it on vote(if required) if no one has more comments?

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 5:44 PM Jonathan Koppenhofer 
wrote:

> Nice work... I like this and have no additions/comments at this time
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 4:18 PM sankalp kohli 
> wrote:
>
> > We added and changed a lot of things to this doc during a discussion in
> > NGCC. Can everyone take a look at it and provide feedback.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:51 PM Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
> >
> > > I have left some comments on the document. Apart from a few
> > clarifications
> > > and some minor changes, I feel its in a good shape. I think we should
> > move
> > > forward with it. We can refine the process, definitions & criteria as
> we
> > > learn.
> > >
> > > Dinesh
> > >
> > > > On Sep 11, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Sumanth Pasupuleti <
> > > sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One more call for any additional comments/ feedback on the release
> > > > lifecycle document
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bS6sr-HSrHFjZb0welife6Qx7u3ZDgRiAoENMLYlfz8/edit#
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Sumanth
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 1:01 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti <
> > > > sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Submitted patch to add release lifecycle information to the website
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15249
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:57 AM Oleksandr Petrov <
> > > >> oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Maybe a bit off-topic:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Before we cut a release, we should make sure we take care of beta
> > > protocol
> > > >>> [1], include released driver versions [2] and remove compact
> storage
> > > >>> remainders [3]. Third one is optional, but I'd argue we should do
> it
> > > >>> sooner
> > > >>> rather than later.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14973
> > > >>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13951
> > > >>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13994
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:25 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti <
> > > >>> sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > >  Thanks for the feedback Scott. I have incorporated all the
> > incremental
> > >  feedback I have thus far.
> > > 
> > >  Looking for any additional feedback folks may have.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bS6sr-HSrHFjZb0welife6Qx7u3ZDgRiAoENMLYlfz8/edit#
> > > 
> > >  On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 11:54 AM Scott Andreas <
> > sc...@paradoxica.net>
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Thanks for starting this discussion, Sumanth! Added a round of
> > > >>> comments
> > >  as
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > Summarizing my non-binding feedback: I feel that many of the
> items
> > > >>> under
> > > > "Alpha" and "Beta" should be achieved prior to the release of an
> > > >>> alpha,
> > > > especially those related to correctness/safety, scope lock,
> feature
> > > > completeness, deprecation, and backwards compatibility.
> > Establishing
> > > a
> > > > higher standard for official project releases (even at the alpha
> > and
> > > >>> beta
> > > > stage) will help us really polish the final build together.
> > > >
> > > > Ideally, I feel that contributors should have completed extensive
> > > > testing/validation to ensure that no critical or severe bugs
> exist
> > > >>> prior
> > >  to
> > > > the release of an alpha (e.g., data loss, consistency violations,
> > >  incorrect
> > > > responses to queries, etc). Perhaps we can add a line to this
> > effect.
> > > >
> > > > Ensuring that we've met that bar prior to alpha will help us
> focus
> > > the
> > > > final stages of the release on gathering feedback from users +
> > > >>> developers
> > > > to validate tooling and automation; compatibility with less
> > > >>> commonly-used
> > > > client libraries, testing new features, evaluating performance
> and
> > > > stability under their workloads, etc.
> > > >
> > > > – Scott
> > > >
> > > > On 6/11/19, 6:45 AM, "Sumanth Pasupuleti" <
> > > > sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for the feedback on the product stages/ release life
> > cycle
> > > > document.
> > > >I have incorporated the suggestions and looking for any
> > additional
> > > > feedback
> > > >folks may have.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bS6sr-HSrHFjZb0welife6Qx7u3ZDgRiAoENMLYlfz8/edit#
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Sumanth
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:43 PM Scott Andreas <
> > > >>> sc...@paradoxica.net
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Echoing Jon’s point here –
> > > >>
> > > >> JH: “My thinking is