Re: Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-09 Thread Rahul Singh
Non binding +1

For not deploying java docs on every node.

Rahul Singh | Business Platform Architect
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On Feb 9, 2020, 5:26 AM -0500, Alex Ott , wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15561
>
> Michael Shuler at "Sat, 8 Feb 2020 11:24:01 -0600" wrote:
> MS> I like this idea for keeping binary deployment size down. I'm not sure 
> how to handle it
> MS> for the tarballs, but we could certainly split the docs out of the debian 
> and rpm packages
> MS> to add cassandra-docs_.{deb,rpm} packages, so they are 
> installable separately, if
> MS> the user wants them. This is common when docs get large. I suppose the 
> same could be done
> MS> for apache-cassandra-docs-,tar.gz, but I'm not sure about the 
> release policy part
> MS> of things here. Needs research.
>
> MS> Please, open a JIRA on this as a packaging improvement.
>
> MS> Kind regards,
> MS> Michael
>
> MS> On 2/8/20 3:06 AM, Alex Ott wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in the
> > > javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on disk
> > > out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.
> > >
> > > If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
> > > Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose? I know that it often contains
> > > useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day work,
> > > imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that has
> > > Cassandra on it.
> > >
> > > Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?
> > >
> > > Mick Semb Wever at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
> > > MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache 
> > > Cassandra version 4.0-alpha3.
> > >
> > > MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the right 
> > > choice when you
> > > MSW> need scalability and high availability without compromising 
> > > performance.
> > >
> > > MSW> http://cassandra.apache.org/
> > >
> > > MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our 
> > > download section:
> > > MSW> http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
> > >
> > >
> > > MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
> > > MSW> 
> > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
> > > MSW> 
> > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz
> > >
> > > MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.
> > >
> > > MSW> sources.list:
> > > MSW> deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 40x main
> > >
> > > MSW> yum config:
> > > MSW> baseurl=https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/redhat/40x/
> > >
> > > MSW> See http://cassandra.apache.org/download/ for full install 
> > > instructions.
> > >
> > > MSW> This is an ALPHA version! It is not intended for production use, 
> > > however
> > > MSW> the project would appreciate your testing and feedback to make the 
> > > final
> > > MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release 
> > > notes[2]
> > > MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.
> > >
> > > MSW> Enjoy!
> > >
> > > MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt 
> > > ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
> > > MSW> [2]: NEWS.txt 
> > > ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
> > > MSW> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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Re: Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-09 Thread Rahul Singh
+1

Nonbinding


Rahul Singh | Business Platform Architect
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On Feb 9, 2020, 5:26 AM -0500, Alex Ott , wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15561
>
> Michael Shuler at "Sat, 8 Feb 2020 11:24:01 -0600" wrote:
> MS> I like this idea for keeping binary deployment size down. I'm not sure 
> how to handle it
> MS> for the tarballs, but we could certainly split the docs out of the debian 
> and rpm packages
> MS> to add cassandra-docs_.{deb,rpm} packages, so they are 
> installable separately, if
> MS> the user wants them. This is common when docs get large. I suppose the 
> same could be done
> MS> for apache-cassandra-docs-,tar.gz, but I'm not sure about the 
> release policy part
> MS> of things here. Needs research.
>
> MS> Please, open a JIRA on this as a packaging improvement.
>
> MS> Kind regards,
> MS> Michael
>
> MS> On 2/8/20 3:06 AM, Alex Ott wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in the
> > > javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on disk
> > > out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.
> > >
> > > If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
> > > Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose? I know that it often contains
> > > useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day work,
> > > imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that has
> > > Cassandra on it.
> > >
> > > Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?
> > >
> > > Mick Semb Wever at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
> > > MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache 
> > > Cassandra version 4.0-alpha3.
> > >
> > > MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the right 
> > > choice when you
> > > MSW> need scalability and high availability without compromising 
> > > performance.
> > >
> > > MSW> http://cassandra.apache.org/
> > >
> > > MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our 
> > > download section:
> > > MSW> http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
> > >
> > >
> > > MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
> > > MSW> 
> > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
> > > MSW> 
> > > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz
> > >
> > > MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.
> > >
> > > MSW> sources.list:
> > > MSW> deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 40x main
> > >
> > > MSW> yum config:
> > > MSW> baseurl=https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/redhat/40x/
> > >
> > > MSW> See http://cassandra.apache.org/download/ for full install 
> > > instructions.
> > >
> > > MSW> This is an ALPHA version! It is not intended for production use, 
> > > however
> > > MSW> the project would appreciate your testing and feedback to make the 
> > > final
> > > MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release 
> > > notes[2]
> > > MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.
> > >
> > > MSW> Enjoy!
> > >
> > > MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt 
> > > ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
> > > MSW> [2]: NEWS.txt 
> > > ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
> > > MSW> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA
> > >
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Re: Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-09 Thread Alex Ott
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15561

Michael Shuler  at "Sat, 8 Feb 2020 11:24:01 -0600" wrote:
 MS> I like this idea for keeping binary deployment size down. I'm not sure how 
to handle it
 MS> for the tarballs, but we could certainly split the docs out of the debian 
and rpm packages
 MS> to add cassandra-docs_.{deb,rpm} packages, so they are 
installable separately, if
 MS> the user wants them. This is common when docs get large. I suppose the 
same could be done
 MS> for apache-cassandra-docs-,tar.gz, but I'm not sure about the 
release policy part
 MS> of things here. Needs research.

 MS> Please, open a JIRA on this as a packaging improvement.

 MS> Kind regards,
 MS> Michael

 MS> On 2/8/20 3:06 AM, Alex Ott wrote:
 >> Hi
 >>
 >> I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in the
 >> javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on disk
 >> out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.
 >>
 >> If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
 >> Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose?  I know that it often contains
 >> useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day work,
 >> imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that has
 >> Cassandra on it.
 >>
 >> Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?
 >>
 >> Mick Semb Wever  at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
 >>   MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache 
 >> Cassandra version 4.0-alpha3.
 >>
 >>   MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the right 
 >> choice when you
 >>   MSW> need scalability and high availability without compromising 
 >> performance.
 >>
 >>   MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/
 >>
 >>   MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our 
 >> download section:
 >>   MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
 >>
 >>
 >>   MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
 >>   MSW> 
 >> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
 >>   MSW> 
 >> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz
 >>
 >>   MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.
 >>
 >>   MSW>   sources.list:
 >>   MSW>   deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 40x main
 >>
 >>   MSW>   yum config:
 >>   MSW>   baseurl=https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/redhat/40x/
 >>
 >>   MSW> See http://cassandra.apache.org/download/ for full install 
 >> instructions.
 >>
 >>   MSW> This is an ALPHA version! It is not intended for production use, 
 >> however
 >>   MSW> the project would appreciate your testing and feedback to make the 
 >> final
 >>   MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release 
 >> notes[2]
 >>   MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.
 >>
 >>   MSW> Enjoy!
 >>
 >>   MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt 
 >> ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
 >>   MSW> [2]: NEWS.txt 
 >> ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
 >>   MSW> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA
 >>
 >>   MSW> -
 >>   MSW> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
 >>   MSW> For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@cassandra.apache.org
 >>
 >>
 >>

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Re: Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-08 Thread Dinesh Joshi
+1

> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Jon Haddad  wrote:
> 
> +1 as well
> 
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 12:25 PM Joshua McKenzie  wrote:
> 
>> +1 to removing javadoc from the distro from me.
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 9:24 AM Michael Shuler 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I like this idea for keeping binary deployment size down. I'm not sure
>>> how to handle it for the tarballs, but we could certainly split the docs
>>> out of the debian and rpm packages to add
>>> cassandra-docs_.{deb,rpm} packages, so they are installable
>>> separately, if the user wants them. This is common when docs get large.
>>> I suppose the same could be done for
>>> apache-cassandra-docs-,tar.gz, but I'm not sure about the
>>> release policy part of things here. Needs research.
>>> 
>>> Please, open a JIRA on this as a packaging improvement.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> On 2/8/20 3:06 AM, Alex Ott wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in
>>> the
 javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on
>> disk
 out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.
 
 If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
 Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose?  I know that it often
>>> contains
 useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day
>>> work,
 imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that
>> has
 Cassandra on it.
 
 Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?
 
 Mick Semb Wever  at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
  MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache
>>> Cassandra version 4.0-alpha3.
 
  MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the
>> right
>>> choice when you need scalability and high availability without
>> compromising
>>> performance.
 
  MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/
 
  MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our
>>> download section:
  MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
 
 
  MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
  MSW>
>>> 
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
  MSW>
>>> 
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz
 
  MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.
 
  MSW>   sources.list:
  MSW>   deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 40x main
 
  MSW>   yum config:
  MSW>   baseurl=https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/redhat/40x/
 
  MSW> See http://cassandra.apache.org/download/ for full install
>>> instructions.
 
  MSW> This is an ALPHA version! It is not intended for production use,
>>> however
  MSW> the project would appreciate your testing and feedback to make
>>> the final
  MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release
>>> notes[2]
  MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.
 
  MSW> Enjoy!
 
  MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt
>>> 
>> ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
  MSW> [2]: NEWS.txt
>>> 
>> ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
  MSW> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA
 
  MSW>
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Re: Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-08 Thread Jon Haddad
+1 as well

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 12:25 PM Joshua McKenzie  wrote:

> +1 to removing javadoc from the distro from me.
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 9:24 AM Michael Shuler 
> wrote:
>
> > I like this idea for keeping binary deployment size down. I'm not sure
> > how to handle it for the tarballs, but we could certainly split the docs
> > out of the debian and rpm packages to add
> > cassandra-docs_.{deb,rpm} packages, so they are installable
> > separately, if the user wants them. This is common when docs get large.
> > I suppose the same could be done for
> > apache-cassandra-docs-,tar.gz, but I'm not sure about the
> > release policy part of things here. Needs research.
> >
> > Please, open a JIRA on this as a packaging improvement.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Michael
> >
> > On 2/8/20 3:06 AM, Alex Ott wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in
> > the
> > > javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on
> disk
> > > out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.
> > >
> > > If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
> > > Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose?  I know that it often
> > contains
> > > useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day
> > work,
> > > imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that
> has
> > > Cassandra on it.
> > >
> > > Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?
> > >
> > > Mick Semb Wever  at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
> > >   MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache
> > Cassandra version 4.0-alpha3.
> > >
> > >   MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the
> right
> > choice when you need scalability and high availability without
> compromising
> > performance.
> > >
> > >   MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/
> > >
> > >   MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our
> > download section:
> > >   MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
> > >
> > >
> > >   MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
> > >   MSW>
> >
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
> > >   MSW>
> >
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz
> > >
> > >   MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.
> > >
> > >   MSW>   sources.list:
> > >   MSW>   deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 40x main
> > >
> > >   MSW>   yum config:
> > >   MSW>   baseurl=https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/redhat/40x/
> > >
> > >   MSW> See http://cassandra.apache.org/download/ for full install
> > instructions.
> > >
> > >   MSW> This is an ALPHA version! It is not intended for production use,
> > however
> > >   MSW> the project would appreciate your testing and feedback to make
> > the final
> > >   MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release
> > notes[2]
> > >   MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.
> > >
> > >   MSW> Enjoy!
> > >
> > >   MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt
> >
> ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
> > >   MSW> [2]: NEWS.txt
> >
> ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
> > >   MSW> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA
> > >
> > >   MSW>
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Re: Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-08 Thread Joshua McKenzie
+1 to removing javadoc from the distro from me.

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 9:24 AM Michael Shuler 
wrote:

> I like this idea for keeping binary deployment size down. I'm not sure
> how to handle it for the tarballs, but we could certainly split the docs
> out of the debian and rpm packages to add
> cassandra-docs_.{deb,rpm} packages, so they are installable
> separately, if the user wants them. This is common when docs get large.
> I suppose the same could be done for
> apache-cassandra-docs-,tar.gz, but I'm not sure about the
> release policy part of things here. Needs research.
>
> Please, open a JIRA on this as a packaging improvement.
>
> Kind regards,
> Michael
>
> On 2/8/20 3:06 AM, Alex Ott wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in
> the
> > javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on disk
> > out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.
> >
> > If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
> > Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose?  I know that it often
> contains
> > useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day
> work,
> > imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that has
> > Cassandra on it.
> >
> > Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?
> >
> > Mick Semb Wever  at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
> >   MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache
> Cassandra version 4.0-alpha3.
> >
> >   MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the right
> choice when you need scalability and high availability without compromising
> performance.
> >
> >   MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/
> >
> >   MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our
> download section:
> >   MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
> >
> >
> >   MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
> >   MSW>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
> >   MSW>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz
> >
> >   MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.
> >
> >   MSW>   sources.list:
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> >   MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release
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> >   MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.
> >
> >   MSW> Enjoy!
> >
> >   MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt
> ?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
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Re: Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-08 Thread Michael Shuler
I like this idea for keeping binary deployment size down. I'm not sure 
how to handle it for the tarballs, but we could certainly split the docs 
out of the debian and rpm packages to add 
cassandra-docs_.{deb,rpm} packages, so they are installable 
separately, if the user wants them. This is common when docs get large. 
I suppose the same could be done for 
apache-cassandra-docs-,tar.gz, but I'm not sure about the 
release policy part of things here. Needs research.


Please, open a JIRA on this as a packaging improvement.

Kind regards,
Michael

On 2/8/20 3:06 AM, Alex Ott wrote:

Hi

I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in the
javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on disk
out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.

If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose?  I know that it often contains
useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day work,
imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that has
Cassandra on it.

Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?

Mick Semb Wever  at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
  MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache 
Cassandra version 4.0-alpha3.

  MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the right choice 
when you need scalability and high availability without compromising performance.

  MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/

  MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our download 
section:
  MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/download/


  MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
  MSW> 
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
  MSW> 
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz

  MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.

  MSW>   sources.list:
  MSW>   deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 40x main

  MSW>   yum config:
  MSW>   baseurl=https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/redhat/40x/

  MSW> See http://cassandra.apache.org/download/ for full install instructions.

  MSW> This is an ALPHA version! It is not intended for production use, however
  MSW> the project would appreciate your testing and feedback to make the final
  MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release notes[2]
  MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.

  MSW> Enjoy!

  MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt 
?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
  MSW> [2]: NEWS.txt 
?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
  MSW> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA

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Do we need Javadoc in binary distribution? Was: [RELEASE] Apache Cassandra 4.0-alpha3 released

2020-02-08 Thread Alex Ott
Hi

I've unpacked binary distribution & noticed that we ship many files in the
javadoc directory - more than 5 thousand files, that occupy 99Mb on disk
out of 149Mb for whole unpacked Cassandra.

If we look from practical standpoint - do we expect that people who run
Cassandra will use javadoc for any purpose?  I know that it often contains
useful details about implementation, but if we talk about day-to-day work,
imho, these files aren't required, at least not on every machine that has
Cassandra on it.

Maybe we can generate a separate artifact for Javadoc files?

Mick Semb Wever  at "Fri, 07 Feb 2020 21:02:09 +0100" wrote:
 MSW> The Cassandra team is pleased to announce the release of Apache Cassandra 
version 4.0-alpha3.

 MSW> Apache Cassandra is a fully distributed database. It is the right choice 
when you need scalability and high availability without compromising 
performance.

 MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/

 MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions are listed in our download 
section:
 MSW>  http://cassandra.apache.org/download/


 MSW> Downloads of source and binary distributions:
 MSW> 
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-bin.tar.gz
 MSW> 
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/cassandra/4.0-alpha3/apache-cassandra-4.0-alpha3-src.tar.gz

 MSW> Debian and Redhat configurations.

 MSW>   sources.list:
 MSW>   deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 40x main

 MSW>   yum config:
 MSW>   baseurl=https://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/redhat/40x/

 MSW> See http://cassandra.apache.org/download/ for full install instructions.

 MSW> This is an ALPHA version! It is not intended for production use, however
 MSW> the project would appreciate your testing and feedback to make the final
 MSW> release better. As always, please pay attention to the release notes[2]
 MSW> and let us know[3] if you encounter any problems.

 MSW> Enjoy!

 MSW> [1]: CHANGES.txt 
?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
 MSW> [2]: NEWS.txt 
?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=NEWS.txt;hb=refs/tags/cassandra-4.0-alpha3
 MSW> [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA

 MSW> -
 MSW> To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org
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With best wishes,Alex Ott
Principal Architect, DataStax
http://datastax.com/

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