I agree with David. This feature is useless to me as the end-user if it's
admin-only as I could never guarantee having admin access if I decided to
move my app to another provider/cloud that I don't administer.

-Jason


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:

> The end-user has an even more compelling reason to be able to query
> that information without resorting to querying from the host than an
> admin ever will.
>
> Why would a cloud administrator need to see/care about userdata? I can
> see the end-user/instance admin caring, but not the root admin.
>
> --David
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Alena Prokharchyk
> <alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > User can always access it through his Vm. The feature is more meant to
> > cover the case when Admin needs to get all the user data info for all vms
> > of a) network b) system
> >
> > On 1/13/14, 1:55 PM, "David Nalley" <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Alena Prokharchyk
> >><alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>> I would like to propose to introduce API (Admin only, 4.4) that returns
> >>>user data to the admin. Current UserData behavior:
> >>>
> >>>  * userData is passed to the deployVm/updateVm call
> >>>  * its stored in CS db and on the VR
> >>>  * the only one way to retrieve the data, is to request it from the
> >>>user vm inside the network by sending http request to the Virtual
> Router.
> >>>
> >>>  We've adopted this model from Amazon EC2 APIs. But along the way I've
> >>>noticed that some third party integrators needed to read UserData by
> >>>Admin to get the information about all vms in the system/network. To
> >>>solve the problem, people were using different kinds of workarounds - db
> >>>scripts to read userData from cloudstack DB, or writing CS API
> >>>extensions: https://github.com/jasonhancock/cloudstack-api-extension.
> >>>
> >>> So the API I'm proposing, will let you to retrieve User Data via Admin
> >>>API. It will be available to Root admin only.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has any objection, or see the flaws in the proposal, please
> >>>signal.
> >>>
> >>> -Alena.
> >>
> >>
> >>Why make this root admin-only? Why shouldn't the user be able to see
> >>their own instances user-data?
> >>
> >>While the ability to see user-data is compelling; limiting it to
> >>root-admin only is much less desirable IMO.
> >>
> >>--David
> >
>

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