Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-23 Thread Rohit Yadav
From: Tim Mackey > Date: 21 November 2014 09:38:21 CET > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates > > The big problem I recall with the 5.6 Linux tools happened during live > migration. I don't recall the sp

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-21 Thread Stephen Turner
pervisor vendor supports? -- Stephen Turner From: Tim Mackey Date: 21 November 2014 09:38:21 CET To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates The big problem I recall with the 5.6 Linux tools happe

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-21 Thread Tim Mackey
The big problem I recall with the 5.6 Linux tools happened during live migration. I don't recall the specific circumstances, but if the VM was migrated, it could cause either the guest or the host to crash. I've never paid attention to the specific Linux version in the system VMs, but the tools t

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-21 Thread Rohit Yadav
Tim, during 4.0/4.1 we used to install a very old xstools 5.6, can we just use that and if we do will that cause any (potential) issue since you mentioned it has few bugs in it? Regards. > On 20-Nov-2014, at 10:23 pm, Tim Mackey wrote: > > It's the other way around. Newer XenServer works with

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-20 Thread Tim Mackey
It's the other way around. Newer XenServer works with older tools, not the other way. On Nov 20, 2014 4:57 PM, "Rohit Yadav" wrote: > If XenServer tools are backward compatible then we can perhaps install the > latest xs-tools (6.2)? Will that cause issue if the underlying > Xen/XenServer hyperv

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-20 Thread Rohit Yadav
If XenServer tools are backward compatible then we can perhaps install the latest xs-tools (6.2)? Will that cause issue if the underlying Xen/XenServer hypervisor version is not 6.2? > On 20-Nov-2014, at 9:12 pm, Tim Mackey wrote: > > From the XenServer perspective, we have a small problem. Th

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-20 Thread Francois Gaudreault
In our case, we kinda mitigate that by adding the debian package inside the systemvm.iso file, and modifying the firstboot script to add a dkpg command. When a VR or SSVM are brought up, the deb automatically installs with the proper version we are using at that moment. If we ever change the XS

Re: [DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-20 Thread Tim Mackey
>From the XenServer perspective, we have a small problem. The XenServer tools are backward compatible, but not guaranteed forward compatible. What that means is we'd need to include the XenServer 5.6 tools, and those have a commercial license. The XenServer 5.6 tools also have a few bugs which w

[DISCUSS] Should we install XenServer tools in systemvmtemplates

2014-11-20 Thread Rohit Yadav
Hi, During the CCCEU conference, I’ve been in some discussions with few people on whether we should install/bundle xenserver tools (and vmware tools and/or virtio-modules). I think we can easily do this, but let’s discuss the following; - Which version of xs-tools etc. we should install? For t