Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-09 Thread Nux!
A bit rough, but you get the idea http://www.cloudstackforum.com/vanilla/ -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: sebgoa run...@gmail.com To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 3 July, 2015 08:27:43 Subject: Re: IRC

RE: IRC and Slack

2015-07-06 Thread Stephen Turner
-Original Message- From: John Burwell [mailto:john.burw...@shapeblue.com] Sent: 04 July 2015 15:28 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: IRC and Slack For me, wile Slack is a nice experience, it’s barrier of entry is much higher — discouraging new participants. While developer

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-04 Thread John Burwell
Remi, The fact that a chat channel is limited to those with an @apache.org account and requires knowing who to ask for invitation runs counter the Apache Way. Chat channels should be open and discoverable by all. I am with Nux, -1 for anything like Hipchat, Slack, etc. If some folks prefer

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-04 Thread sebgoa
I think we are all in agreement here, so let's move on with: -consolidate #cloudstack and #cloudstack-dev (who can do that ? ) -let's try to be more present on IRC (that's for everyone ) -let's try to setup some slack/IRC proxy so that folks who are using Slack right now can make the IRC folks

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-04 Thread Remi Bergsma
Hi all, I setup a gateway that sends messages back and forth. Let me use it for a while to so I can tweak it if needed. It also needs to prove how stable this is. This is what it does: Freenode #cloudstack === Slack #general So, item 3 from the list done and this will help me doing item 2 as

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-04 Thread Remi Bergsma
John, All we did was quickly setup as POC to test it out with some folks. I never said it should replace anything in its current state. Regards, Remi On 04 Jul 2015, at 16:32 , John Burwell john.burw...@shapeblue.com wrote: Remi, The fact that a chat channel is limited to those with

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-04 Thread John Burwell
Erik, I don’t think measuring current #cloudstaack-dev activity is relevant. A number of developers have been experimenting with Slack which would naturally decrease activity. The question for the community is which means should we all use going forward, and deprecate the other. For me,

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Rohit Yadav
+0 Email and MLs are going to stay, so for IMs and chatting we can use one or more of such tools. I like Slack, the searchable history and whatnot, but I think realtime communication in general may face the same problems as with using IRC. Another issue with using tools like slack, hipchat

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Erik Weber
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Rohit Yadav rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com wrote: +0 Email and MLs are going to stay, so for IMs and chatting we can use one or more of such tools. I like Slack, the searchable history and whatnot, but I think realtime communication in general may face the same

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
Some great ideas in there. I am +1 for: -consolidate #cloudstack-dev and #cloudstack -move bots to #cloudstack-announce -Remi's idea to publish slack message to #cloudstack (and vice versa). -the idea to use something like discourse or stack overflow etc… Somebody wants to take this on :) On

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Erik Weber
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:27 AM, sebgoa run...@gmail.com wrote: Some great ideas in there. I am +1 for: -consolidate #cloudstack-dev and #cloudstack -move bots to #cloudstack-announce -Remi's idea to publish slack message to #cloudstack (and vice versa). -the idea to use something like

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
On Jul 3, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Remi Bergsma r...@remi.nl wrote: I setup a proof-of-concept a while back to test it: http://cloudstackdev.slack.com. There currently are around 30 people, mostly dev from this list. Anyone with an @apache.org account can sign-up and anyone else could ask me,

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Remi Bergsma
I setup a proof-of-concept a while back to test it: http://cloudstackdev.slack.com. There currently are around 30 people, mostly dev from this list. Anyone with an @apache.org account can sign-up and anyone else could ask me, Daan, Rohit, Wilder or Funs for an invite (for now). I can imagine

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-02 Thread Erik Weber
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Sebastien Goasguen run...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, IRC has been mostly deserted for a while now. But there are still folks hanging out there with unanswered questions. I also know of several slack channels on cloudstack. We need to take a decision here.

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-02 Thread Rene Moser
Hi On 02.07.2015 10:39, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: We need to take a decision here. Shall we officially abandon IRC and out a notice there that points towards Slack. -1 for abondon IRC. * IRC is simple and easy, well known and distributed. Not every question fits to IRC, thats ok. If it gets

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-02 Thread Erik Weber
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Rene Moser m...@renemoser.net wrote: Hi On 02.07.2015 10:39, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: We need to take a decision here. Shall we officially abandon IRC and out a notice there that points towards Slack. -1 for abondon IRC. * IRC is simple and easy, well

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-02 Thread John Burwell
All, For me, the most significant issues with IRC is that there is no searchable history, backlog to catch up when offline, or good mobile clients (yes, mobile IRC clients exists, but work poorly in my view). While some of these solutions can be solved by running an IRC proxy such as znc or

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-02 Thread Remi Bergsma
What if we use the best of both worlds, by using something like [1]? We obviously need to dive a bit into this and see how well it works. There might be alternatives. The benefit of such a solution would be that if you could see messages on IRC in Slack and v.v. that would make them more

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-02 Thread Erik Weber
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 9:15 PM, John Burwell john.burw...@shapeblue.com wrote: All, For me, the most significant issues with IRC is that there is no searchable history, backlog to catch up when offline, or good mobile clients (yes, mobile IRC clients exists, but work poorly in my view).

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-02 Thread Nux!
Hi, Our IRC channels seem to be dead, indeed, at least for user support purposes. IRC is pretty established and works great for many projects, it just requires people active then and there. Probably any form of chat will have the same fate no matter how trendy and personally -1 for anything