Re: Marking cforms stable in 2.1.8

2005-06-09 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Ben Pope wrote: Yes, I agree. The question still remains as to who's itch is irritating enough. I also agree that if Cocoon is going to have a small core, that ultimately will consist of CForms, JXTemplate (or CTemplate?) and, well, core, then it needs to marked stable ASAP. As far as I

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: So the question is: - why is the pipeline automatically released? Is to avoid memory leaks? Yes, in 2.1.x there was no good place for explicitly releasing the pipeline; this required some incompatible changes we did in 2.2; the pipelines are released there explicitly and

Re: CForms model and viewData

2005-06-09 Thread BURGHARD Éric
Uh? It's not removed. What do you mean by doesn't work here? Any error message? Excuse me for the fuzzyness of the previous message. I'm using Forms.js v3 and cocoon-2.2-dev (not the latest trunk). The error message is viewData is not defined. Apparently the cocoon.flow.context is not

Re: [osgi] Initial code

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: I have committed some initial osgi code in whiteboard (whiteboard/osgi) so that we can start experiment with a microkernel based Cocoon, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11165964683r=1w=2. snip/ I find the subject very interesting so I'll look into that ASAP. My

Re: CForms stabilization tasks (was Re: Marking cforms stable in 2.1.8)

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: snip/ The bottom line is you cannot have code sitting around forever telling people its great but you have to use it at your own risk cause we might change it anytime we feel like it. This has just been going on for far too long. The code is never

Re: Marking cforms stable in 2.1.8

2005-06-09 Thread Ben Pope
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Ben Pope wrote: Yes, I agree. The question still remains as to who's itch is irritating enough. I also agree that if Cocoon is going to have a small core, that ultimately will consist of CForms, JXTemplate (or CTemplate?) and, well, core, then it needs to marked

RE: CForms stabilization tasks (was Re: Marking cforms stable in 2.1.8)

2005-06-09 Thread Bart Molenkamp
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Leszek Gawron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 - flatten the configuration to allow for easier extension with the xconf include mechanism in 2.2 I could give it a shot but I have no deeper knowledge of cocoon.xconf syntax in this case. Do we have to

Re: [osgi] Initial code

2005-06-09 Thread Upayavira
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: I have committed some initial osgi code in whiteboard (whiteboard/osgi) snip/ Build system I just copied the build system from knopflerfish and changed some default params, take a look in the ant directory and read

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So the question is: - why is the pipeline automatically released? Is to avoid memory leaks? Yes, in 2.1.x there was no good place for explicitly releasing the pipeline; this required some incompatible changes we did in 2.2; the pipelines

Re: [osgi] Initial code

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
Upayavira wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: I have committed some initial osgi code in whiteboard (whiteboard/osgi) snip/ Build system I just copied the build system from knopflerfish and changed some default params, take a look in the ant directory and read

Re: CForms stabilization tasks (was Re: Marking cforms stable in 2.1.8)

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Leszek Gawron wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: The main points to achieve stable state are: 1 - remove v2 and v3 apis I assume there are some features that we would like to port back to v1. Could we identify them? I personally don't use v2 nor v3. People using it are invited to speak up!

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: So IMO, we should change the way environment inheritance between threads is managed: - if a child thread runs in the scope of its parent, then a special CocoonThread class (extends Thread) should be used, which will copy the needed environment data before launching

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So IMO, we should change the way environment inheritance between threads is managed: - if a child thread runs in the scope of its parent, then a special CocoonThread class (extends Thread) should be used, which will copy the needed

Re: [WebServices] How to use the SoapServer component ?

2005-06-09 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sebastien Arbogast wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a way to use Axis in combination with Cocoon. I already managed to parse SOAP messages with a higher-level approach using Axis API's [1] but I still need to automate a few things. I found a SoapServer interface [2] and a SoapServerImpl [3] class

Eclipse 3.1's Unnecessary else statement

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hi all, I noticed for a while that many commits are related to making Eclipse happier because of an additional 3.1 feature that flags unnecessary else statement. These changes are for constructs such as: if (condition) { return foo; } else { return bar; } which are

Re: Eclipse 3.1's Unnecessary else statement

2005-06-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I noticed for a while that many commits are related to making Eclipse happier because of an additional 3.1 feature that flags unnecessary else statement. These changes are for constructs such as: if (condition) { return foo; } else {

[VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Upayavira
We now have Daisy installed on ASF equipment, which we can now evaluate to see how well it suits our documentation needs. This is great. Diasy is set up with a number of roles, openning up new ways of working with documentation: guest who can view published documents only editorwho

Re: Eclipse 3.1's Unnecessary else statement

2005-06-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: So please, update your settings and leave unchanged what doesn't need to be changed :-) Oh no, you're starting one of the famous code formatting threads...I'm just waiting for someone pointing out that the brackets should be in a new line... Seriously, I think a

Re: [osgi] Initial code

2005-06-09 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Leszek Gawron wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: I have committed some initial osgi code in whiteboard (whiteboard/osgi) so that we can start experiment with a microkernel based Cocoon, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11165964683r=1w=2. snip/ I find the subject very interesting so I'll

Re: [osgi] Initial code

2005-06-09 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Upayavira wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: I have committed some initial osgi code in whiteboard (whiteboard/osgi) snip/ Build system I just copied the build system from knopflerfish and changed some default params, take a look in the ant directory and read

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Upayavira
Upayavira wrote: Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors, so that they can get on and do good stuff without having to ask. They have the ideas and enthusiasm, and I'm very keen to see what they can come up with. If they wish to accept this invitation, they

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
Upayavira wrote: We now have Daisy installed on ASF equipment, which we can now evaluate to see how well it suits our documentation needs. This is great. Diasy is set up with a number of roles, openning up new ways of working with documentation: guest who can view published documents

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
On 9 Jun 2005, at 10:52, Upayavira wrote: We now have Daisy installed on ASF equipment, which we can now evaluate to see how well it suits our documentation needs. This is great. Diasy is set up with a number of roles, openning up new ways of working with documentation: guest who

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Upayavira wrote: As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1, welcome Helma! -- Reinhard Ptz Independent Consultant, Trainer (IT)-Coach {Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache

Re: Eclipse 3.1's Unnecessary else statement

2005-06-09 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: So please, update your settings and leave unchanged what doesn't need to be changed :-) Oh no, you're starting one of the famous code formatting threads...I'm just waiting for someone pointing out that the brackets should be in a new line...

Re: CForms stabilization tasks (was Re: Marking cforms stable in 2.1.8)

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
Sylvain Wallez wrote: I could give it a shot but I have no deeper knowledge of cocoon.xconf syntax in this case. Do we have to make every widget a component? That doesn't feel right. Nono, what I'm talking about is the various subcontainers that exist in CForms, such as forms-datatypes

London Users' Group Meeting next Wednesday 15th June

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
Hello everyone, We seem to have a sufficient number of Cocoon users interested in meeting up next Wednesday in London. Shall I book a table at the Slug and Lettuce, Soho for 7:30pm next Wednesday night? I'll book on Monday, so there's still time to add your name to the wiki page[1]! The

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
It appears my account has already been given editorial permissions. I'll get started. Mark On 9 Jun 2005, at 11:34, Upayavira wrote: Mark Leicester wrote: On 9 Jun 2005, at 10:52, Upayavira wrote: We now have Daisy installed on ASF equipment, which we can now evaluate to see how well it

Re: Eclipse 3.1's Unnecessary else statement

2005-06-09 Thread Unico Hommes
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I noticed for a while that many commits are related to making Eclipse happier because of an additional 3.1 feature that flags unnecessary else statement. These changes are for constructs such as: if (condition) { return foo;

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Upayavira wrote: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors, so that they can get on and do good stuff without having to ask. They have the ideas and enthusiasm, and I'm very keen to see what they can come

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A document has been updated: Document ID: 6 would it be a big problem to append an URL here so one can view the page? Branch: main Language: default Name: First Steps (unchanged) Document Type: Simple Document (unchanged) Updated on: 6/9/05 11:12:45 AM Updated by:

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jun 2005, at 13:41, Leszek Gawron wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A document has been updated: Document ID: 6 would it be a big problem to append an URL here so one can view the page? nope - that is on my todo list /Steven -- Steven Noels

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Unico Hommes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Upayavira wrote: snip/ On this basis, I'd like to propose Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer, and thus our first 'publisher'. She has been participating regularly in our community, and has shown a quiet but steady interest in helping

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
Because I only corrected a typo, I was wondering whether there was a minor change flag I could tick (as per the wiki). Also, what is the imagetoolbarenabled=true addition about? Mark On 9 Jun 2005, at 12:41, Leszek Gawron wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A document has been updated:

RE: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
On this basis, I'd like to propose Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer, and thus our first 'publisher'. She has been participating regularly in our community, and has shown a quiet but steady interest in helping with our documentation, as well as an increasingly clear

Re: JDTCore.jar used for XSP only?

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Torsten Curdt wrote: Is jdtcore.jar only used for compiling Java for XSP pages? I'm not using XSP currently, so I am wondering if I can just eliminate that jar file. It doesn't seem to affect Cocoon. Can anyone confirm? In trunk jdtcore.jar is only added if you enable the XSP block. Don't

[osgi] Interview with Knopflerfish president

2005-06-09 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
I found an interview with the Knopflerfish president, for those wondering about its use, origin and so on: http://www.jaxmagazine.com/itr/online_artikel/psecom,id,668,nodeid,147.html /Daniel

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jun 2005, at 13:51, Mark Leicester wrote: Because I only corrected a typo, I was wondering whether there was a minor change flag I could tick (as per the wiki). No. We'd generate a new version anyhow, but maybe that mail shouldn't be send. I'll add this to the Daisy Jira. Also, what

Re: ImageMap: is it still eww ! ?

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Luca Morandini wrote: The form definition: fd:imagemap id=map fd:sourcetest.gif/fd:source fd:hint i18n:textzoomInImage.hint.mapButton/i18n:text /fd:hint fd:on-action javascriptonClickMap(event);/javascript /fd:on-action /fd:imagemap The flow: function

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jun 2005, at 13:57, Linden H van der (MI) wrote: Can you/Steven/any other admin please figure out if my Daisy username (hepabolu) is ok? I've no idea which password is set and whether the registration process is completed, but at the moment I can't get in.

Re: [osgi] Initial code

2005-06-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 9 juin 05, à 12:04, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit : ...One can use the version in Cocoon trunk, it worked with ant 1.6.2, we would just need to add the BCEL to the tools/lib. Still one need to add ant to PATH. If would be nice if someone who is more knowledgable than I in the Cocoon build

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jun 2005, at 11:52, Upayavira wrote: As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors, so that they can get on and do good stuff

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 9 juin 05, à 11:52, Upayavira a écrit : ...As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer Big +1, welcome! Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors... Although this doesn't

RE: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/passwordReminder ;-) Done that but no email has arrived for more than 10 minutes now. Bye, Helma

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jun 2005, at 12:08, Upayavira wrote: Upayavira wrote: Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors, so that they can get on and do good stuff without having to ask. They have the ideas and enthusiasm, and I'm very keen to see what they can come up with.

Re: JDTCore.jar used for XSP only?

2005-06-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: Is jdtcore.jar only used for compiling Java for XSP pages? I'm not using XSP currently, so I am wondering if I can just eliminate that jar file. It doesn't seem to affect Cocoon. Can anyone confirm? In trunk jdtcore.jar is only added if you

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors, so that they can get on and do good stuff without having to ask. They have the ideas and

Re: Eclipse 3.1's Unnecessary else statement

2005-06-09 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Really? Object result; if (condition) { result = foo; } else { result = bar; } return result; or also Object result = bar; if (condition) { result = foo; } return result; Doesn't look better

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Weird, weird, weird! Anybody having a hint about why fireJob() is doing this environment mixture? Actually fireJobAt() is broken also when using another test case. What's wrong with it? Desperately searching for the cause, I went back to

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
Also, what is the imagetoolbarenabled=true addition about? I assume that disables the annoying IE image toolbar that usually pops up if you hover over an image ...for those who for some reason still use that browser :-P cheers -- Torsten signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
I'm using Firefox on a Mac. I noticed that clicking across tabs sometimes resulted in a Submit called twice error too. I can't think of any plugins that might cause that: any suggestions? Mark On 9 Jun 2005, at 12:56, Steven Noels wrote: On 09 Jun 2005, at 13:51, Mark Leicester wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Upayavira wrote: As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 ! Sylvain -- Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies http://apache.org/~sylvainhttp://anyware-tech.com Apache Software

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jun 2005, at 14:15, Linden H van der (MI) wrote: http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/passwordReminder ;-) Done that but no email has arrived for more than 10 minutes now. Any kind of email delay can be expected, as Hermes' inbound SMTP services are really flaky, and Daisy only

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So IMO, we should change the way environment inheritance between threads is managed: - if a child thread runs in the scope of its parent, then a special CocoonThread class (extends Thread) should be used, which will copy

RE: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
Problem solved. It works now. Any kind of email delay can be expected, as Hermes' inbound SMTP services are really flaky, and Daisy only processes its stalled mail queue every four hours. So if sending mail doesn't succeed the first time, it can take a while before a new mail is being

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So the question is: - why is the pipeline automatically released? Is to avoid memory leaks? Yes, in 2.1.x there was no good place for explicitly releasing the pipeline; this required some incompatible changes we did in

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Weird, weird, weird! Anybody having a hint about why fireJob() is doing this environment mixture? Actually fireJobAt() is broken also when using another test case. What's wrong with it? Desperately searching for

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: So IMO, we should change the way environment inheritance between threads is managed: - if a child thread runs in the scope of its parent, then a special CocoonThread class (extends Thread) should

Re: JDTCore.jar used for XSP only?

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Torsten Curdt wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: Is jdtcore.jar only used for compiling Java for XSP pages? I'm not using XSP currently, so I am wondering if I can just eliminate that jar file. It doesn't seem to affect Cocoon. Can anyone confirm? In trunk jdtcore.jar is

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Tony Collen
Upayavira wrote: As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1, welcome Helma!! Tony

[Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
Hello, I don't really want to define a global structure a priori because I expect each documentation writer will have their own view of how documentation should be organised. However, we will periodically need to discuss and agree how to better organise what is already there (refactoring if

Re: JDTCore.jar used for XSP only?

2005-06-09 Thread Torsten Curdt
i meant javascript flow :-) that's interesting ...did not know that And sitemap in 2.2 should be using it as well... the sitemap? whatfor? supposedly it can recompile stuff we don't have auto compiling at that stage yet ...only auto reloading when your favorite ide did the external

RE: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
Hi Mark, let's take it slow and use the dev list for discussions. Marking the subjects with [Docs] (as you've already done) gives the others the option to join or ignore as they see fit. If the volume increases the decision to use another mailing list can always be taken. To aid document

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: After second look, does not look too harmful, even though unnecessary. Man, I spend two full days chasing the bug and finding its cause. I don't call this unnecessary... Sylvain -- Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: After second look, does not look too harmful, even though unnecessary. Man, I spend two full days chasing the bug and finding its cause. I don't call this unnecessary... Now your turn to read email ;-) My guess there is a problem in your

Re: [WebServices] How to use the SoapServer component ?

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sebastien Arbogast wrote: So I really could use any sample using that component to serve SOAP requests through Cocoon. See samples in the axis block, in the org.apache.cocoon.webservices package and under (like System.java). Vadim

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Sebastien Arbogast
2005/6/9, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Upayavira wrote: Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors, so that they can get on and do good stuff without having to ask. They have the ideas and enthusiasm, and I'm very keen to see what they can come up with.

CForms Summer of Code project

2005-06-09 Thread Max Pfingsthorn
Hi! I have a question. There are two, somewhat conflicting descriptions of the CForms project on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/CocoonFormsScratchpad http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/WhiteBoardCocoonForms I guess the most recently edited one (WhiteBoard...) is the most preferred one... is

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Upayavira wrote: On this basis, I'd like to propose Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer, and thus our first 'publisher'. She has been participating regularly in our community, and has shown a quiet but steady interest in helping with our documentation, as well as an increasingly clear

Re: CForms Summer of Code project

2005-06-09 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Max Pfingsthorn wrote: Hi! I have a question. There are two, somewhat conflicting descriptions of the CForms project on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/CocoonFormsScratchpad http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/WhiteBoardCocoonForms I guess the most recently edited one (WhiteBoard...) is the

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Mark Leicester wrote: Hello, I don't really want to define a global structure a priori because I expect each documentation writer will have their own view of how documentation should be organised. However, we will periodically need to discuss and agree how to better organise what is already

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
Hi Helma, OK, the dev list sounds just fine! What do you think about the refactoring I'm suggesting? I can do it over the next few hours if you are agreeable. You are editor-in-chief, so I don't want to start without your approval! Also, it occurred to me that perhaps we should delete pages

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
On 9 Jun 2005, at 15:25, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Mark Leicester wrote: Getting started with Cocoon + Installing the prerequisites + Java + Getting the latest release of Cocoon + Downloading a Cocoon release + Getting Cocoon from the source repository + Installing and configuring

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Marc Portier
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 9 juin 05, à 11:52, Upayavira a écrit : ...As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer Big +1, welcome! +1, gefeliciteerd! (dutch congrats) Also, I'd like to invite both Mark

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Steven Noels wrote: On 09 Jun 2005, at 15:26, Mark Leicester wrote: I don't really want to define a global structure a priori because I expect each documentation writer will have their own view of how documentation should be organised. And we now have a system which accommodates this. I

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Leszek Gawron wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A document has been updated: Document ID: 6 would it be a big problem to append an URL here so one can view the page? and while we are here... Fields == no changes Links = no changes Custom Fields = no changes

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, On 9 Jun 2005, at 10:52, Upayavira wrote: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 and welcome, Helma! Andrew. -- Andrew Savory, Managing Director, Luminas Limited Tel: +44 (0)870 741 6658 Fax: +44 (0)700 598 1135 Web: http://www.luminas.co.uk/ Orixo alliance:

RE: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
OK, the dev list sounds just fine! What do you think about the refactoring I'm suggesting? I can do it over the next few hours if you are agreeable. You are editor-in-chief, so I don't want to start without your approval! :-) Getting started with Cocoon + Installing the prerequisites

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
Linden H van der (MI) wrote: Hi Mark, let's take it slow and use the dev list for discussions. Marking the subjects with [Docs] (as you've already done) gives the others the option to join or ignore as they see fit. If the volume increases the decision to use another mailing list can always be

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
Hi Helma, Fine. I've already thought about the length of the pages currently in the tutorial, but I'd rather get the stuff in first and refactor later. Mind you, I don't like pages that consist of a header and one paragraph. OK, I'll just add whatever I think is useful as a new page (editing

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Upayavira wrote: As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 --David

Re: [osgi] Initial code

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: I have committed some initial osgi code in whiteboard (whiteboard/osgi) so that we can start experiment with a microkernel based Cocoon, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11165964683r=1w=2. Great! Definitely interesting and I'll have a look at this as time

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
[ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 -gregor

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Remedy is to use thread pool(s), and not create local Threads - with the exception of situation when local thread lives no longer than original request. I used the scheduler's thread pool, and that's when the problem

RE: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
To aid document reorganisation I think we should encourage a fairly fine-grained modularity, i.e. single topic pages. Wouldn't it be a good start to do a smart import of current xdocs into new documentation structure? No offense, but smart import still means going over each and every

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Leszek Gawron
Linden H van der (MI) wrote: To aid document reorganisation I think we should encourage a fairly fine-grained modularity, i.e. single topic pages. Wouldn't it be a good start to do a smart import of current xdocs into new documentation structure? No offense, but smart import still means

Re: [DAISY] Updated: First Steps

2005-06-09 Thread Steven Noels
On 09 Jun 2005, at 15:08, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A document has been updated: Document ID: 6 would it be a big problem to append an URL here so one can view the page? and while we are here... Fields == no changes Links = no changes

RE: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
That was exactly what I proposed. Our target should be a single documentation source deprecating main docs and wiki. If we add what is the easiest now and leave main documentation aside the whole effort will be incoherent. True, but let's do one step at a time. The wiki is easier to

RE: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
Yes, I think we are writing more than a reference manual here. Perhaps, at the appropriate places we could also talk about unit testing and other best practices. To me it ranges from executive summary to user's guide and tutorials to developer's guide and reference manual and everything

Build Cocoon 2.1.7

2005-06-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello everybody, I am having problems to build the src version of cocoon-2.1.7. I am excluding the stx block with my local.block.properties. excluded: NOTICE ... Block 'stx' is excluded from the build. ...

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On 6/9/05, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino Pro-netics s.r.l. - http://www.pro-netics.com Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com (blogging at http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)

Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Anyways, RunnableManager's pools MUST NOT inherit any variables, IMHO. I think you meant the same. Exactly. And my modifications ensure this CAN NOT happen, by simply suppressing the automatic inheritance of environment stack between child

Re: [Docs] A structure for Getting Started

2005-06-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 9 juin 05, à 15:47, Mark Leicester a écrit : ...Also, it occurred to me that perhaps we should delete pages out of the wiki once they become Daisy-ised. Otherwise we have two scratchpads. What do you think?.. Yes, it would be good to replace the wiki content by a link to the new page in

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Tim Larson
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:14:44PM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 9 juin 05, ? 11:52, Upayavira a ?crit : ...As granting committership requires a vote, please cast your votes now: [ ] Helma Van Der Linden as a Cocoon committer +1 Welcome! Also, I'd like to invite both Mark

Re: [VOTE] Document Editors, and a new Committer

2005-06-09 Thread Upayavira
Sebastien Arbogast wrote: 2005/6/9, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Upayavira wrote: Also, I'd like to invite both Mark Leicester and Glen Ezkovich to be editors, so that they can get on and do good stuff without having to ask. They have the ideas and enthusiasm, and I'm very keen to see what

Re: London Users' Group Meeting next Wednesday 15th June

2005-06-09 Thread Upayavira
Mark Leicester wrote: Hello everyone, We seem to have a sufficient number of Cocoon users interested in meeting up next Wednesday in London. Shall I book a table at the Slug and Lettuce, Soho for 7:30pm next Wednesday night? I'll book on Monday, so there's still time to add your name to the

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Re: Weird multithreading bug in Cron block

2005-06-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Anyways, RunnableManager's pools MUST NOT inherit any variables, IMHO. I think you meant the same. Exactly. And my modifications ensure this CAN NOT happen, by simply suppressing the automatic inheritance of

FYI Broken link on download mirrors page

2005-06-09 Thread Mark Leicester
On http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi the link to the explanation as to why there are no binary distributions points to the old wiki.cocoondev.org address (and does not redirect). Mark

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