Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-08 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, On 8 Dec 2003, at 03:00, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Why Apple fans always try to forgot the fact: Intel or AMD craps are faster in the same space and time than Gx processors? And try to hide this fact it behind the OS arena? I know, in hardware, it is not an MHz. issue. But Intel and AMD

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 7 Dec 2003, at 19:00, Antonio Gallardo wrote: I still have present the Stefano projection in 8 or more hours for converting to DIVx a 45 mins long conferences of GT2003. This is not the case on my Intel crap. I did a similar work with a 90 minuts video with an old AMD crap and it was a

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-08 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Stefano Mazzocchi dijo: On 7 Dec 2003, at 19:00, Antonio Gallardo wrote: I still have present the Stefano projection in 8 or more hours for converting to DIVx a 45 mins long conferences of GT2003. This is not the case on my Intel crap. I did a similar work with a 90 minuts video with an

[OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread John Morrison
Hi All, Sorry for the off topic posting, but I've been thinking about upgrading my laptop and you guys have been saying how good the modern Macs are :) I was wondering if you'd tell me which Mac you have and whether you'd buy one again :) Thanks, J. PS, I've never owned a Mac before. PPS, if

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi John, On 7 Dec 2003, at 11:12, John Morrison wrote: I was wondering if you'd tell me which Mac you have and whether you'd buy one again :) New 15 Powerbook G4. Bought two of them. I would recommend them to anybody, and I would definitely buy them again. Pros: it just works. It's light.

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 7 Dec 2003, at 11:12, John Morrison wrote: Hi All, Sorry for the off topic posting, but I've been thinking about upgrading my laptop and you guys have been saying how good the modern Macs are :) I was wondering if you'd tell me which Mac you have and whether you'd buy one again :) Ohh... And

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Robert Koberg
John Morrison wrote: Hi All, Sorry for the off topic posting, but I've been thinking about upgrading my laptop and you guys have been saying how good the modern Macs are :) I was wondering if you'd tell me which Mac you have and whether you'd buy one again :) Thanks, J. PS, I've never owned a

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu
* John Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-07 11:12]: Hi All, Sorry for the off topic posting, but I've been thinking about upgrading my laptop and you guys have been saying how good the modern Macs are :) I was wondering if you'd tell me which Mac you have and whether you'd buy one

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Jorg Heymans
I would've gotten one of these a few months ago, but decided on a winxp instead because i wasn't sure about its standard office compatibility. I mean can you easily link up to an exchange server? See windows file servers, mount windows directories, open/edit/save m$-office word and excel files

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert
As a contractor my main bread butter client is the BC Government in Canada. To save money, the BC Gov't has standardized on M$ Windows for the desktop. They've never actually looked to see if they have saved any money from this decision, but I can tell you about the thousands of work days

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 7 Dec 2003, at 18:07, Jorg Heymans wrote: I would've gotten one of these a few months ago, but decided on a winxp instead because i wasn't sure about its standard office compatibility. I mean can you easily link up to an exchange server? See windows file servers, mount windows directories,

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 7 Dec 2003, at 06:29, Robert Koberg wrote: John Morrison wrote: Hi All, Sorry for the off topic posting, but I've been thinking about upgrading my laptop and you guys have been saying how good the modern Macs are :) I was wondering if you'd tell me which Mac you have and whether you'd buy one

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 7 Dec 2003, at 09:48, Alain Javier Guarnieri del Gesu wrote: When you buy a Mac you are literally buying time. This is *S* true -- Stefano. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Robert Koberg
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 7 Dec 2003, at 06:29, Robert Koberg wrote: John Morrison wrote: Hi All, Sorry for the off topic posting, but I've been thinking about upgrading my laptop and you guys have been saying how good the modern Macs are :) I was wondering if you'd tell me which Mac you have

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: Why a Mac when you can get a more powerful machine with an Intel or AMD processor with the same money? If you concerns are about speed, stability and realibility then use Linux. I currently use Fedora Core 1 with great results. Also you can have the same machine with dual boot just in case

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Why a Mac when you can get a more powerful machine with an Intel or AMD processor with the same money? It's not the same money actually. Have a Mac with you for a few days, and then start wondering about the time you're saving since thing just work. I did the math: given

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert
On 7-Dec-03, at 4:08 PM, Antonio Gallardo wrote: BTW, Mac OS X is a Linux based distribution for the Mac processors with a price included. They use KDE as the desktop environment. Sorry, I haven't responded to some other incorrect stuff, but OSX is GNU Mach from NeXT with a FreeBSD

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Ok, end this thread now or I'll start flaming people! :-) On 8 Dec 2003, at 00:08, Antonio Gallardo wrote: BTW, Mac OS X is a Linux based distribution for the Mac processors with a price included. They use KDE as the desktop environment. Dude, you don't know what you're talking about! :-) :-)

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 8 Dec 2003, at 00:30, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: BTW, Mac OS X is a Linux based distribution for the Mac processors with a price included. They use KDE as the desktop environment. Uh? Come on Antonio, this is just blatantly untrue to say the least: OS X roots are in BSD, not Linux, and KDE has

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Gianugo Rabellino dijo: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Why a Mac when you can get a more powerful machine with an Intel or AMD processor with the same money? It's not the same money actually. Have a Mac with you for a few days, and then start wondering about the time you're saving since thing just

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert
You're both wrong, guys... Mac OS/X is not based on Linux, nor on BSD. It's based on a derivate of CMU's original Mach kernel, which was a direct response to a architectural problem of the BSD kernel... Getting closer ... Mach was the name chosen because MOOS sounded wrong and one of the other

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert
On 7-Dec-03, at 7:00 PM, Antonio Gallardo wrote: snip/snip I'm glad you like your Linux based laptop, the fellow asked if we liked our OSX boxes ... which we do. But for the record I never stop my OSX laptop, so I don't have to restart, (okay for your 1 minute). Then I don't have to restart my

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Antonio Gallardo dijo: Why Apple fans always try to forgot the fact: Intel or AMD craps are faster in the same space and time than Gx processors? And try to hide this fact it behind the OS arena? I know, in hardware, it is not an MHz. issue. But Intel and AMD craps are in fact faster and

Re: [OT] Mac Laptops

2003-12-07 Thread Thor Heinrichs-Wolpert
On 7-Dec-03, at 8:37 PM, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Antonio Gallardo dijo: Why Apple fans always try to forgot the fact: Intel or AMD craps are faster in the same space and time than Gx processors? And try to hide this fact it behind the OS arena? I know, in hardware, it is not an MHz. issue. But