Re: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Geoff Howard wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: BTW, Unico, I don't know what is your mail software, but it doesn't send the "In-Reply-To" header, which breaks thread views in Mozilla and makes following discussions highly difficult.

Re: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread J.Pietschmann
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Actually, Unico is not the only one. What I've found is that Mozilla uses the In-Reply-To header whereas Outlook (at least some version) uses "Thread-Topic" and "Thread-Index". Outlook's headers seem strange to me, as I don't know how a mailer can rebuild a thread tree wit

Re: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: I haven't had doubts that hosting nodes as components in an IoC container is a good approach, I think it makes perfect sense in light of a sitemap's inheritable nature. What I *have* been having doubts about is the way the container is now being confi

RE: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread JD Daniels
n-Reply-to" JD -Original Message- From: Unico Hommes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2004-01-30 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2) Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > Geoff Howard wrote: > > > Sylvain Wallez

RE: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread Unico Hommes
JD Daniels wrote: > > Outlook 2000 *does* > > I was getting frustrated I was not getting any replies to a > post i made... I was lazy and just hit reply to an existing > message to get the address and wiped out the original text. > This thread made me look.. and it does send "in-Reply-to" >

RE: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread JD Daniels
- From: Unico Hommes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2004-01-30 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2) Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > Geoff Howard wrote: > > > Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > > >> Unico Hommes wrote:

RE: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread Unico Hommes
Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > Geoff Howard wrote: > > > Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > > >> Unico Hommes wrote: > > > > > BTW, Unico, I don't know what is your mail software, but > it doesn't > send the "In-Reply-To" header, which breaks thread views > in Mozilla > and makes follow

Re: Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread Geoff Howard
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: BTW, Unico, I don't know what is your mail software, but it doesn't send the "In-Reply-To" header, which breaks thread views in Mozilla and makes following discussions highly difficult. I use Outlook. I ch

Mail thread headers (was Re: source resolving in 2.2)

2004-01-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Geoff Howard wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: BTW, Unico, I don't know what is your mail software, but it doesn't send the "In-Reply-To" header, which breaks thread views in Mozilla and makes following discussions highly difficult. I use Outlook. I checked the thread view

Re: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Geoff Howard
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: As for the redirector, please add it to InvokeContext. This makes it available to both ActNode and CallFunctionNode. This is really a private concern of the Processor that has no need to spread somewhere

Re: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Unico Hommes wrote: I'd already replied to Sylvain's mail yesterday but it never seems to have shown up :-/ Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Do you mean the Processor is made available into the Avalon Context object in order for processing nodes to access it? A side effect is that it also makes it acces

Re: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Unico Hommes wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: As for the redirector, please add it to InvokeContext. This makes it available to both ActNode and CallFunctionNode. This is really a private concern of the Processor that has no need to spread somewhere else. What about

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Unico Hommes wrote: > > I haven't had doubts that hosting nodes as components in an IoC > container is a good approach, I think it makes perfect sense in light of > a sitemap's inheritable nature. What I *have* been having doubts about > is the way the container is now being configured from a site

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Unico Hommes
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > Unico Hommes wrote: > > > > I haven't thought it all the way through either but I see some > > complexity arising now. > > > > For instance in a subsitemap the components container must inherit > > from the supersitemaps components container. But the > subsitemaps

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Unico Hommes wrote: > > I haven't thought it all the way through either but I see some > complexity arising now. > > For instance in a subsitemap the components container must inherit from > the supersitemaps components container. But the subsitemaps node > container needs to inherit from both t

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Unico Hommes
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > Unico Hommes wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, that's true as well - sigh. I thought this context is only > > > available to tree processor components, but it seems that you're > > > right and this context is passed down to all components. > > > > > > > The same goes for

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-30 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Unico Hommes wrote: > > > > > > Yes, that's true as well - sigh. I thought this context is > > only available to tree processor components, but it seems > > that you're right and this context is passed down to all components. > > > > The same goes for the ServiceManager. It currently exposes all >

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-29 Thread Unico Hommes
Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > As for the redirector, please add it to InvokeContext. This > makes it available to both ActNode and CallFunctionNode. This > is really a private concern of the Processor that has no need > to spread somewhere else. What about the flow

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-29 Thread Unico Hommes
I'd already replied to Sylvain's mail yesterday but it never seems to have shown up :-/ Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > Do you mean the Processor is made available into the Avalon Context > > object in order for processing nodes to access it? A side effect is > > that it also makes it accessible

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > Wait, wait, wait... > Too late... :) (Just kidding) > Do you mean the Processor is made available into the Avalon Context > object in order for processing nodes to access it? A side effect is that > it also makes it accessible to all components defined in the sitemap,

Re: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-28 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: Ah, ok, so what do you think of using that then? I just noticed that the key for the processor is just "treeprocessor", what do you think of using a more qualified name like org.apache.cocoon.Processor or the name of the implementation? Yes, th

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Unico Hommes wrote: > > Ah, ok, so what do you think of using that then? > > I just noticed that the key for the processor is just > > "treeprocessor", what do you think of using a more qualified > > name like org.apache.cocoon.Processor or the name of the > > implementation? > > > > Yes, that was

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-28 Thread Unico Hommes
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > Unico Hommes wrote: > > > > The Processor currently is already available to a > ProcessingNode from > > the Context so a ProcessingNode implementing > Contextualizable will be > > able to get to the EnvironmentHelper via that route. > > > Ah, ok, so what do you t

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Unico Hommes wrote: > > The Processor currently is already available to a ProcessingNode from > the Context so a ProcessingNode implementing Contextualizable will be > able to get to the EnvironmentHelper via that route. > Ah, ok, so what do you think of using that then? I just noticed that the k

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-28 Thread Unico Hommes
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > Two suggestions regarding sourceResolver and redirector: > > > > SourceResolver (the Cocoon one) is a legacy requirement because we > > can't change the interface of actions, generators, etc, and > is used by > > the Processor (for Actions

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: > Two suggestions regarding sourceResolver and redirector: > > SourceResolver (the Cocoon one) is a legacy requirement because we can't > change the interface of actions, generators, etc, and is used by the > Processor (for Actions) and the pipelines (for SitemapModelCompon

Re: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-27 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Unico Hommes wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I am currently trying to get act nodes to work and am have a question about the source resolving in 2.2. Currently the environment source resolver is put into the object model in the PipelinesNode. However, now that the environment no longer implement

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-27 Thread Unico Hommes
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > Unico Hommes wrote: > > OK thanks. It looks like we had the same idea :-). I went ahead and > > implemented it the way you describe in option b) . I also added two > > static helper methods to EnvironmentHelper: getSourceResolver and > > getRedirector so we don't

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Unico Hommes wrote: > OK thanks. It looks like we had the same idea :-). I went ahead and > implemented it the way you describe in option b) . I also added two > static helper methods to EnvironmentHelper: getSourceResolver and > getRedirector so we don't have to pass in the processor instance. Goo

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-27 Thread Unico Hommes
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > > > I am currently trying to get act nodes to work and am have > a question > > about the source resolving in 2.2. Currently the environment source > > resolver is put into the object model in the PipelinesNode. > However, > > now that the environment no longer

RE: source resolving in 2.2

2004-01-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
> > I am currently trying to get act nodes to work and am have a question > about the source resolving in 2.2. Currently the environment source > resolver is put into the object model in the PipelinesNode. However, now > that the environment no longer implements SourceResolver but appears to > be i