FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hmm, the question is: how can a pluggable object model work - or how can it be extended? What about using...input modules for exactly this? We create a way of mounting input modules into the object model, like this: object-model mount

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hmm, the question is: how can a pluggable object model work - or how can it be extended? What about using...input modules for exactly this? We create a way of mounting input modules into the object model, like this:

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Torsten Curdt
So I think we should clearly separate the FOM (the JS wrapper of the OM) from the FAPI, the flowscript API which gathers flowscript-related utility functions by attaching them for a new flowscript object. We would therefore have: - cocoon.request, cocoon.context, cocoon.mymodule, etc. -

Re: sitemap, jx and flow design (was: servicemanager and jxtg)

2005-01-26 Thread BURGHARD ric
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Two days ago, I wrote about my usecase for chained input modules. Daniel answered, that in his opinion this looks like voodoo and suggested to have a global action that is executed for every request. Wouldn't this be the solution for passing objects to the view layer

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Torsten Curdt wrote: So I think we should clearly separate the FOM (the JS wrapper of the OM) from the FAPI, the flowscript API which gathers flowscript-related utility functions by attaching them for a new flowscript object. We would therefore have: - cocoon.request, cocoon.context,

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Torsten Curdt wrote: So I think we should clearly separate the FOM (the JS wrapper of the OM) from the FAPI, the flowscript API which gathers flowscript-related utility functions by attaching them for a new flowscript object. We would therefore have: - cocoon.request, cocoon.context,

[RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I think one area were Cocoon really lacks in functionality is administration. We briefly discussed this topic some months ago. WDYT about implementing a prototype with JMX? Don't know how this could look like or what it can do, but perhaps someone with JMX knowledge has some cool ideas, she is

Re: [RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think one area were Cocoon really lacks in functionality is administration. We briefly discussed this topic some months ago. WDYT about implementing a prototype with JMX? Don't know how this could look like or what it can do, but perhaps someone with JMX knowledge has

Re: [RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think one area were Cocoon really lacks in functionality is administration. We briefly discussed this topic some months ago. WDYT about implementing a prototype with JMX? Don't know how this could look like or what it can do, but perhaps someone with JMX knowledge has

Cocoon-2.1.X Tests Failure 01/26/05

2005-01-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Automated Cocoon Unit tests failed! Full log file if this unit test run is available here: http://nagoya.apache.org/~vadim/cocoon-test-log-20050126.log Last messages from the log file: == [foreach] reader-mime-type.xml:39

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Torsten Curdt
flow.sendPageAndWait(), flow.getComponent(), flow.redirect() With javaflow the whole script naming scheme does not really fit ...even if you get a script-like behaviour with the compiling classloader ...IMO WDYT? You're falling in the same trap again ;-) Why should the flowscript API and

Re: sitemap, jx and flow design (was: servicemanager and jxtg)

2005-01-26 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: snip/ Seem to me like we have switched opinion with each other ;) You know, over the last few years I have written tons of RTs describing more or less cool pipeline constructions for simplifying webapp development. And you have after more or

Re: [RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 26/gen/05, alle 10:33, Reinhard Poetz ha scritto: +0 (I think it makes sense trying it, but I can't help) +0. Same as above. Ugo -- Ugo Cei - http://agylen.com/blojsom/blog/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: sitemap, jx and flow design (was: servicemanager and jxtg)

2005-01-26 Thread BURGHARD ric
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: My girlfriend tells me that sometimes it seems like I argue for the sake of arguing.., that I would take the other side no matter what... and that in a single conversation I might argue about why something is black and then argue about the same thing is white once I

Re: [RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ... I know that there are a lot of pros and cons for/against JMX - the discussion on the geronimo list is a good example of this. But it seems that every project is using JMX, so imho we shouldn't invent something different. Java 5 is using JMX to expose itself for

Re: [RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think one area were Cocoon really lacks in functionality is administration. We briefly discussed this topic some months ago. WDYT about implementing a prototype with JMX? Don't know how this could look like or what it can do, but perhaps someone with JMX knowledge has

Images not cached by IE if using ImageReader without expires parameter

2005-01-26 Thread Adam Ratcliffe
I've just resolved an issue I had with images loaded by a _javascript_ preloader not being cached by Internet Explorer, the images are produced in a Cocoon pipeline that uses the ImageReader. The problem is with the 'Vary' response header that is set by the reader if the 'expires'

Object parameters, Was: sitemap, jx and flow design

2005-01-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: BURGHARD Éric wrote: generate type=jx src=.. !-- pass authentication dom to jx -- parameter name=auth dom={session-context:authentication}/ /generate I have never disputed that things might be clumsy now, I just think we should focus on getting the flowscript way

Re: sitemap, jx and flow design

2005-01-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Now for the instructions (jx:forEach etc) we have the question if they should be choosed: 1. Programatically: There is an abstract base class with common template generator functionality. To implement e.g. JXTG this base class is extended. And

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9916] - Support passing of object parameters into sitemap components

2005-01-26 Thread bugzilla
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Re: FOM input modules

2005-01-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hmm, the question is: how can a pluggable object model work - or how can it be extended? What about using...input modules for exactly this? We create a way of mounting input modules into the object model, like this: object-model mount

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: So I think we should clearly separate the FOM (the JS wrapper of the OM) from the FAPI, the flowscript API which gathers flowscript-related utility functions by attaching them for a new flowscript object. We would therefore have: - cocoon.request,

Re: Images not cached by IE if using ImageReader without expires parameter

2005-01-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Adam Ratcliffe wrote: I've just resolved an issue I had with images loaded by a javascript preloader not being cached by Internet Explorer, the images are produced in a Cocoon pipeline that uses the ImageReader. The problem is with the 'Vary' response header that is set by the reader if the

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hmm, the question is: how can a pluggable object model work - or how can it be extended? What about using...input modules for exactly this? We create a way of mounting input modules into the object model, like this:

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Torsten Curdt wrote: flow.sendPageAndWait(), flow.getComponent(), flow.redirect() With javaflow the whole script naming scheme does not really fit ...even if you get a script-like behaviour with the compiling classloader ...IMO WDYT? You're falling in the same trap again ;-) Why should the

Re: FOM FAPI (wasRe: FOM input modules)

2005-01-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: So I think we should clearly separate the FOM (the JS wrapper of the OM) from the FAPI, the flowscript API which gathers flowscript-related utility functions by attaching them for a new flowscript object. We would therefore

Re: sitemap, jx and flow design (was: servicemanager and jxtg)

2005-01-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
BURGHARD Éric wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: My girlfriend tells me that sometimes it seems like I argue for the sake of arguing.., that I would take the other side no matter what... and that in a single conversation I might argue about why something is black and then argue about the same thing

Re: sitemap, jx and flow design

2005-01-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Now for the instructions (jx:forEach etc) we have the question if they should be choosed: 1. Programatically: There is an abstract base class with common template generator functionality. To implement e.g. JXTG this base

Re: [RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think one area were Cocoon really lacks in functionality is administration. We briefly discussed this topic some months ago. WDYT about implementing a prototype with JMX? Don't know how this could look like or what it can do, but perhaps someone with JMX knowledge has

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32263] - [PATCH] contribution lucene block

2005-01-26 Thread bugzilla
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Re: [RT] Management Prototype?

2005-01-26 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ok, it seems that most of us like this idea - great. Now, all we need is a volunter!! Anyone? - I can help with everything not directly related to JMX itself - if required. Carsten Well shoot. I can help, but I don't have a lot of time to devote at the moment. I think

Re: Object parameters, Was: sitemap, jx and flow design

2005-01-26 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:09:45 -0500, Vadim Gritsenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: BURGHARD Éric wrote: generate type=jx src=.. !-- pass authentication dom to jx -- parameter name=auth dom={session-context:authentication}/ /generate I have never disputed

Re: Object parameters, Was: sitemap, jx and flow design

2005-01-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: BURGHARD Éric wrote: generate type=jx src=.. !-- pass authentication dom to jx -- parameter name=auth dom={session-context:authentication}/ /generate I have never disputed that things might be clumsy now, I just think we should focus on

[GUMP][PATCH] fix a bunch of typos for jars in Cocoon repo

2005-01-26 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Should all be trivial changes Cheers Stefan --- gump.xml.orig Wed Jan 26 17:43:16 2005 +++ gump.xmlWed Jan 26 17:47:09 2005 @@ -1340,7 +1340,7 @@ description Delivery context library /description -home nested=ib/optional/ +home nested=lib/optional/

Re: [GUMP][PATCH] fix a bunch of typos for jars in Cocoon repo

2005-01-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Fixed. Thanks! Carsten Stefan Bodewig wrote: Should all be trivial changes Cheers Stefan --- gump.xml.orig Wed Jan 26 17:43:16 2005 +++ gump.xml Wed Jan 26 17:47:09 2005 @@ -1340,7 +1340,7 @@ description Delivery context library /description -home nested=ib/optional/ +

Re: Long running requests and timeouts...resolved...

2005-01-26 Thread Andrzej Jan Taramina
Just FYI to those that were following this thread, this was a Cocoon (2.1.5) issue that caused this, not Tomcat. Turns out that the Cocoon 2.1.5 ResourceReader sets some response headers willy nilly. If you have another component that uses a resolver to access a pipeline that uses the reader