Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 16/ott/04, alle 23:16, Pier Fumagalli ha scritto: If someone has some space on SourceForge (not here, it's LGPL, Carsten maybe you can lend a hand), it might be very cool to improve it together? May I suggest cocoondev.org? Ugo -- Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/ smime.p7s

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 16/ott/04, alle 20:51, Pier Fumagalli ha scritto: And that said, I close this whole discussion as I think it's entirely pointless, I'll let Stefano re-iterate why class loading isolation is required to achieve blocks polymorphism. I don't think it is entirely pointless. For one thing,

RE: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 16/ott/04, alle 23:16, Pier Fumagalli ha scritto: If someone has some space on SourceForge (not here, it's LGPL, Carsten maybe you can lend a hand), it might be very cool to improve it together? May I suggest cocoondev.org? Yes, I think cocoondev.org

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Steven Noels
On 17 Oct 2004, at 09:57, Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 16/ott/04, alle 23:16, Pier Fumagalli ha scritto: If someone has some space on SourceForge (not here, it's LGPL, Carsten maybe you can lend a hand), it might be very cool to improve it together? May I suggest cocoondev.org? +1 /Steven -- Steven

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Guido Casper
Sorry, I thought what's being discussed is wether or not to use Spring as an intra-block container and that Tani as inter-block container is set. Am I wrong? Guido

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Guido Casper
Ralph Goers wrote: In short, the fact that Cocoon is just a bunch of parts that get configured is one of Cocoon's major strengths. However, the current configuration is pretty easy to understand and modify. If the replacement container makes the configuration more complex and less

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Jeremy Quinn
I can re-factor this Steven. What is the procedure for getting this on cocoondev.org? thanks regards Jeremy On 17 Oct 2004, at 09:43, Steven Noels wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 09:57, Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 16/ott/04, alle 23:16, Pier Fumagalli ha scritto: If someone has some space on SourceForge

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Guido Casper wrote: Sorry, I thought what's being discussed is wether or not to use Spring as an intra-block container and that Tani as inter-block container is set. Am I wrong? Nope, you're totally right. Tani already provides classloader isolation, and we just need to add a thin DI layer on

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Steven Noels
On 17 Oct 2004, at 12:17, Jeremy Quinn wrote: I can re-factor this Steven. What is the procedure for getting this on cocoondev.org? Nothing special: * read http://new.cocoondev.org/main/32 * think of a name some short form of that: Pier/Jerm * set up SVN account/passwd for committers: me * create

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:02, Steven Noels wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 12:17, Jeremy Quinn wrote: I can re-factor this Steven. What is the procedure for getting this on cocoondev.org? Nothing special: * read http://new.cocoondev.org/main/32 * think of a name some short form of that: Pier/Jerm * set up

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:29, Jeremy Quinn wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:02, Steven Noels wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 12:17, Jeremy Quinn wrote: I can re-factor this Steven. What is the procedure for getting this on cocoondev.org? Nothing special: * read http://new.cocoondev.org/main/32 * think of a name

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Steven Noels wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 09:57, Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 16/ott/04, alle 23:16, Pier Fumagalli ha scritto: If someone has some space on SourceForge (not here, it's LGPL, Carsten maybe you can lend a hand), it might be very cool to improve it together? May I suggest cocoondev.org?

Bug report for Cocoon 2 [2004/10/17]

2004-10-17 Thread bugzilla
+---+ | Bugzilla Bug ID | | +-+ | | Status: UNC=Unconfirmed NEW=New ASS=Assigned

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Steven Noels
On 17 Oct 2004, at 15:57, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Instead of creating yet-another-small-project at cocoondev.org (like my own CVSSource), what about creating a general-purpose project that would host all interesting cocoon-releated things we cannot host at the ASF because of license problems? +1,

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Guido Casper wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: In short, the fact that Cocoon is just a bunch of parts that get configured is one of Cocoon's major strengths. However, the current configuration is pretty easy to understand and modify. If the replacement container makes the configuration more complex

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:57, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Instead of creating yet-another-small-project at cocoondev.org (like my own CVSSource), what about creating a general-purpose project that would host all interesting cocoon-releated things we cannot host at the ASF because of license problems? Was

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Pier Fumagalli wrote: snip/ As I personally need the kernel, I will personally invest some more time into it, Cocoon or not (frankly, I could care less at this point). I think that the current kernel code is wrong, as it's based on implementation of interfaces a-la Avalon, and you showed me a

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:45, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:29, Jeremy Quinn wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:02, Steven Noels wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 12:17, Jeremy Quinn wrote: I can re-factor this Steven. What is the procedure for getting this on cocoondev.org? Nothing special: * read

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ Instead of creating yet-another-small-project at cocoondev.org (like my own CVSSource), what about creating a general-purpose project that would host all interesting cocoon-releated things we cannot host at the ASF because of license problems? Instead of having a

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Guido Casper wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: In short, the fact that Cocoon is just a bunch of parts that get configured is one of Cocoon's major strengths. However, the current configuration is pretty easy to understand and modify. If the replacement container makes the

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Steven Noels wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 15:57, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Instead of creating yet-another-small-project at cocoondev.org (like my own CVSSource), what about creating a general-purpose project that would host all interesting cocoon-releated things we cannot host at the ASF because of

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Ralph Goers
Daniel, I didn't quote everything in your post in the interest of space, but I agree with everything in it. Frankly, I'd be happy if every block had it's own equivalent to cocoon.xconf that could be loaded along with the block. If any wiring is needed, it should be between the Cocoon core

RE: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:57, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Instead of creating yet-another-small-project at cocoondev.org (like my own CVSSource), what about creating a general-purpose project that would host all interesting cocoon-releated things we cannot host at

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 31726] - Small API change to access sitemap data structure

2004-10-17 Thread bugzilla
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Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: snip/ While I agree with your concerns, I think a DI container can _potentially_ bring a lot in this area. The current problem with Cocoon's xconf file is that it is really free-form, and the variety of the components makes writing an XML grammar

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 17/ott/04, alle 17:22, Daniel Fagerstrom ha scritto: data. In Spring you must as well supply wiring information about how the component is connected to other components thru setters. You need to describe the life cycle, if there are any initialization and destruction methods of the

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Upayavira
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ Instead of creating yet-another-small-project at cocoondev.org (like my own CVSSource), what about creating a general-purpose project that would host all interesting cocoon-releated things we cannot host at the ASF because of license

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 17/ott/04, alle 15:45, Pier Fumagalli ha scritto: The code can't be licensed using the Apache License 2.0. It's LGPL as it implements certain LGPL Hibernate classes. That's the whole reason why we can't post it here... Do your classes really implement Hibernate interfaces or extend

Re: problems starting 2.1.6-dev

2004-10-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 17 Oct 2004, at 14:57, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Instead of creating yet-another-small-project at cocoondev.org (like my own CVSSource), what about creating a general-purpose project that would host all interesting cocoon-releated things we

Re: [RT] Some notes about the Real Blocks issue

2004-10-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ What I would like us to do, is to write some kind of (prioritized) requirement list on what problems we would like to solve for intra-block component handling. Then it would be possible to evaluate different technical solutions with respect

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 31751] New: - show-time parameter in web.xml

2004-10-17 Thread bugzilla
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svn repository

2004-10-17 Thread Conal Tuohy
I can't access the SVN repository at http://svn.apache.org/ - or am I looking in the wrong place? I'm accessing it through a proxy, so it's hard to say exactly what happens, but my proxy reports a zero-length response: ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve

Re: svn repository

2004-10-17 Thread JD Daniels
Try https https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/branches/BRANCH_2_1_X Conal Tuohy wrote: I can't access the SVN repository at http://svn.apache.org/ - or am I looking in the wrong place? I'm accessing it through a proxy, so it's hard to say exactly what happens, but my proxy reports a

RE: svn repository

2004-10-17 Thread Conal Tuohy
Thanks JD. Actually it seems to have come right just a minute ago! -Original Message- From: JD Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 18 October 2004 7:04 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: svn repository Try https