Re: [fyi] offline

2003-07-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Christian Haul wrote: Hi team. I will be offline 'till ~12th (and largely have been for some days already) due to some happy event in my life: I'm going to marry my girl friend tomorrow! Congrats, Chris ! And we want some nice pictures when you come back ;-) Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: Goodbyes Please remove me from the mailing lists

2003-07-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
links supplied at http://cocoon.apache.org/1.x/mail-lists.html (see the other to's), but that does not seem to work. Would you please help? The mailing lists have moved to cocoon.apache.org. Please follow the instructions at http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/mail-lists.html Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: [RT] Generalizing the flow

2003-07-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
names. Note : that's why, at the start of flow discussion (a log time ago), I wanted to put map:flow inside map:components, because this is actually what it is : a component definition and configuration. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http

Re: [RT] Generalizing the flow

2003-07-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Although we can change the attribute of map:flow (type would be more in accordance with other sitemap statements), it's content is actually a Configuration object given to the chosen flow engine. For type=JavaScript, it fully makes sense to list

Re: [RT] Generalizing the flow

2003-07-05 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Christopher Oliver wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip Names are one of the most important things in design, since it's first through the names that a user goes into a set of classes. Bad names imply wrong understanding. Abstractions named after

Re: Allow non-Cocoon elements in sitemap?

2003-07-06 Thread Sylvain Wallez
namespace being considered as an error. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business

Re: [RT] Generalizing the flow

2003-07-07 Thread Sylvain Wallez
this is really about renaming a few things, this isn't a big work. Ready for a vote ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects

Re: protected vs private instance members (in Woody)

2003-07-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
-markup [2] http://xml.apache.org/xalan-j/apidocs/org/apache/xalan/extensions/ExtensionHandler.html -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting

Re: protected vs private instance members (in Woody)

2003-07-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Sure. But then, one way or the other, the contract of the class with its subclasses is changed, and the subclasses are broken ! Yepp, but I think in this case it's ok, the subclasses have to be adjusted accordingly. You can't make implementations

Re: Cocoon and Component Manager (was RE: protected vs private instancemembers (in Woody))

2003-07-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
if we can't access the components that are inside ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML

Re: Tomcat 4.1.24 + Cocoon 2.1M3 : yet another endorsed lib issue...

2003-07-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
(doesn't work for me) Wikies only tell about older tomcat versions... Thanks in advance ! Use the ParanoidCocoonServlet, and your endorsed lib problems should vanish instantly ;-) http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=EndorsedLibsProblem Cheers, Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: Tomcat 4.1.24 + Cocoon 2.1M3 : yet another endorsed lib issue...

2003-07-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
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Re: Tomcat 4.1.24 + Cocoon 2.1M3 : yet another endorsed lib issue...

2003-07-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
with this special classloader. So it just delegates method calls. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource

Re: [vote] extend FOM_Request with remoteUser

2003-07-08 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Giacomo Pati wrote: Hi all I'd like to propose an extension to the FOM_Request class with the property 'remoteUser'. +1. remoteUser obviously belongs to the business logic domain. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain

Re: [Vote] Cocoon Advanced Control Flow

2003-07-09 Thread Sylvain Wallez
and with actual code in the future. And of course if such changes happen, a back-compatible behaviour will be maintained. Sylvain. -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource

Re: DirectoryGenerator source-oriented refactoring

2003-07-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: And while we're at refactoring, what do you think of having separate regexps for directories and files ? This would be really useful since their respective naming rules are totally different. E.g. if I want only .xml files, the regexp has

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/scratchpad/src/org/apache/cocoon/generationTraversableGenerator.java

2003-07-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez
) or SourceTraversalGenerator ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance

Re: [Flow] Calling internal-only pipelines

2003-07-11 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 7/11/03 3:22 AM Sylvain Wallez wrote: This was done about a week ago ;-) 300 messages later, I knew ;-) Tomorrow I'll digest the big thread on the extended flow and report back. (my FS alarms are already off scale but I'm turning them off to try to be really

Re: [RT] Less is More, Finite State Machines and Balkanization

2003-07-13 Thread Sylvain Wallez
the Processor interface was abstracted that we have the TreeProcessor today, and maybe also the flow, because Ovidiu was able to play with it without impacting the core. Sylvain PS: I'm on vacation, so don't expect instant replies ! -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware

Re: [RT] Less is More, Finite State Machines and Balkanization

2003-07-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
, but forced people to go thru the community so that control, coherence and feedback is maintained and the cocoon platform is not abused. Hope my point is clearer now. Yep. Hope mine is clearer too. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http

Re: [RT] Less is More, Finite State Machines and Balkanization

2003-07-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
don't like personal frictions, as they're often based on some initial misunderstanding that keeps unresolved. I love this community which I consider as my home (but not my property) and don't want long-term bad feelings that can only do harm. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: [RT] the value of being wrong

2003-07-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
people, since both families were involved [1]. This was really great. Sylvain [1] http://www.anyware-tech.com/blogs/sylvain/archives/61.html -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java

Re: Blob protocol... missing BlobSource logger declaration

2003-07-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
when I use the blob protocol, BlobSource throws a NullPointerException, because it doesn't find the logger via getLogger(). Any tip ? Fixed : setupLogger(blob) was missing in BlobSourceFactory.getSource(). Thanks for reporting, please cross-check ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

[RT] Comparing Woody XMLForm : towards a unified form handling(long)

2003-07-21 Thread Sylvain Wallez
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Re: [RT] Comparing Woody XMLForm : towards a unified form handling(long)

2003-07-22 Thread Sylvain Wallez
that should satisfy most people. As for my proposed changes, I started a quick'n dirty hack to showcase them. However, I'm still on vacation and only little of my time is available for Cocoon ;-) More soon, stay tuned. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies

[Vote] Ugo Cei and Marc Portier as Cocoon committers

2003-07-28 Thread Sylvain Wallez
on the binding and flowscript integrations of Woody and cares a lot about Cocoon. Please cast your votes. Here are mines : +1 for both ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML

Re: CODE FREEZE for 2.1rc1

2003-07-28 Thread Sylvain Wallez
;-) Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

[RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-28 Thread Sylvain Wallez
this clearly and that most of this makes sense. Traditional question : what do you think ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting

Re: CODE FREEZE for 2.1rc1

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: PS: and put the champaigne into the fridge. It's spelled champagne ! Wines are serious things in France ;-) Oh, what a faux pas - sorry for that one, Sylvain! Now, I guess the best thing in helping me to spell this one correctly

Re: [RT] Webdavapps with Cocoon

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: [Made with Jave: http://www.jave.de/] Wow, awesome tool ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting

Re: [TOT] RE: CODE FREEZE for 2.1rc1

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
, there's no problem and you're very welcome ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/treeprocessor/sitemapSwitchSelectNode.java

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
when the context object is null. What do you think ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/treeprocessor/sitemapSwitchSelectNode.java

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten, I couldn't find Volker's report, but I think it's the selector's responsibility to handle the case when it returns a null context object and that the sitemap should not enforce a failure in that case. Furthermore, this modification

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
have to organize collaborative developpement : do you have some uncommitted changes, who does what, etc. Community at work. I love it ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML

Re: [RT] Woody and round trip of parameters.

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
handling of requests (it should not be parsed). Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 22:15, Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ Convertors -- Convertors (or should it be converters ?) hmm, good point. They seem to be both valid. I seem to have a natural tendency to write convertor, but I'm fine with both. I've noticed that later

Re: Preparing for 2.2

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
... Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Marc Portier wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Marc Portier wrote: Sylvain, This perfectly alligns with how I have been thinking about extracting and embracing the nice ideas your first RT was bringing to the scene... Cool ;-) it is called 'shared neurons' :-) snip about=your project

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 17:23, Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ As for disposal, the TreeProcessor maintains a list of all Disposable nodes created by the builders that are disposed when the sitemap itself is disposed (BTW, thanks Carsten for finding that nodes should be disposed

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Steven Noels wrote: On 29/07/2003 18:17 Sylvain Wallez wrote: Marc Portier wrote I do understand this might break some backwards compat stuff, but the block is labeled 'unstable' and 'alfa' precisely because we know this is bound to happen nevertheless Bruno is doing an effort to notify

Re: [RT] Woody and round trip of parameters.

2003-07-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
to compute its value. Thoughts ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http

Re: [VOTE] Commit access for Guido Casper

2003-07-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
of the upcoming webdavapps (or was it xmlrpcapps? :-)). Please cast your votes. Here is my +1. +1. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
a Widget tree (Field is an implementation of Widget). These objects are responsible for formating/parsing the values. These are very lightweight objects that delegate most of their processing to their WidgetDefinition. Hope this makes things clearer. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
will be created. But why exactly do you want to hook up into tree-building ? Maybe this can be solved by the binding ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource

Woody's expression language (was Re: [RT] Woody and round trip ofparameters.)

2003-07-30 Thread Sylvain Wallez
there ? It's in commons-sandbox (in the CVS, but not in the web pages), and originated at http://www.plotnix.com/jex/index.html Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-31 Thread Sylvain Wallez
:-)) ;-) -marc= (looking forward to your conclusions / proposal - wiki page) That's today's todo, but these important and stimulating discussions eat up all most of my time. But we're near to the convergence point ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http

Re: Flow's processPipelineTo() and FileSource

2003-07-31 Thread Sylvain Wallez
on it? I don't know if I have access to the Excalibur CVS though... As a Cocoon committer, you should. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training

Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition

2003-07-31 Thread Sylvain Wallez
of the layout, and concentrate only on the description of this layout. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo

Re: Garbage or The Quest for the Perfect Template Language

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
description [1], this may be what you're looking for : the whole classpath is accessible through fully-qualified names. [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/jxpath/apidocs/org/apache/commons/jxpath/PackageFunctions.html Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware

Re: AggregateField and SoC (was Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's formdefinition)

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Marc Portier wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Hi! A short question comes to my mind, while reading your RT: Is it possible to use data types which are composed of several HTML input fields? We are currently using three input fields for dates (day, month, year) at our

Re: Promotion of [XPath]TraversableGenerators to main trunk

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
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[Woody] ids or refs ?

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
referred to by other files, it seems to me cleaner and more understandable to differentiate defining and referring attribute. For this, I propose to keep the current id on defining elements and use ref attribute on referring elements. Thoughts ? Is it nitpicking ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: [RT] New Input for woody

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
that it is able to host your ideas as particular implementations of one of its components. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects

Re: [Woody] ids or refs ?

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 15:04, Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ For this, I propose to keep the current id on defining elements and use ref attribute on referring elements. Thoughts ? Is it nitpicking ? No, ref is better. Kewl ;-) Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

[Woody] explicit wi:style in wt:widget

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
!-- new ref attribute !! -- wi:style class=bar variant=popup/ wi:labeloverriden label/wi:label /wt:wiget/ Thoughts ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon

Re: [Woody] explicit wi:style in wt:widget

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:31, Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ For these reasons, I propose to make wi:style explicit in the template file, e.g. : wt:widget ref=foo !-- new ref attribute !! -- wi:style class=bar variant=popup/ wi:labeloverriden label/wi:label /wt:wiget

Re: AggregateField and SoC (was Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's formdefinition)

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Marc Portier wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Marc Portier wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Hi! snip / Maybe that's just nitpicking, but I find this somewhat breaks Woody's clean SoC. Touché. ;-) Actually, this is something I was uncomfortable with right from

Re: Promotion of [XPath]TraversableGenerators to main trunk

2003-08-01 Thread Sylvain Wallez
and additional attributes... Back to the discussion about protected/private and officially public APIs... Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training

Re: Questions/Suggestions for Woody

2003-08-02 Thread Sylvain Wallez
of iterations may be more limited. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }

Re: [RT] Cubist WebApp Team Organization (was Re: AggregateFieldand SoC (was Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition))

2003-08-02 Thread Sylvain Wallez
something important. Things are never black or white : there's an infinity of greys inbetween... Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training

Re: JUnit tests and packages

2003-08-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
on earth that can both connect to SAP and produce MIDI files at the same time ? Sylvain (waiting to listen to Cocoon music ;-) -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource

Re: [RT] Cubist WebApp Team Organization (was Re: AggregateFieldand SoC (was Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition))

2003-08-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Shared neurons again : re-thinking to my previous post, I realized exactly what you say. The various model extensions needed by each layer need to be physically separated (different people, different files), but must be assembled into a single

Re: [RT] Cubist WebApp Team Organization (was Re: AggregateFieldand SoC (was Re: [RT] Revisiting Woody's form definition))

2003-08-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hunsberger, Peter wrote: Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip/ Now the above sentence is totally contradictory with a previous proposal of me to include the binding into the form definition. Why did I proposed this ? Because in small/medium apps, the one that designs the form

Re: Fixing blocking bug 9835 for release

2003-08-07 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hi, we have (at least) one blocking bug, I think: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9835 which should be fixed before the release. This bug is related to the TreeProcessor. I could assume doing a quick hack and changing

Re: NotifyingBuilder

2003-08-11 Thread Sylvain Wallez
the default class for this role, which is used if no explicit declaration exists in cocoon.xconf : role default-class=org.apache.cocoon.components.notification.DefaultNotifyingBuilder name=org.apache.cocoon.components.notification.NotifyingBuilder shorthand=notifying-builder/ Sylvain -- Sylvain

Re: Switching cache to Persistent Store

2003-08-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
. 5) Shut down Jetty and restart 6) Go back to http://localhost:/samples/status.html and you're pages have disappeared from the default store. Surely this is wrong! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Jeudi, 14 aoû 2003, à 15:24 Europe/Zurich, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...But what if we write it the other way around : map:read src=docs/{1}.doc map:generate src=docs/{1}.doc type=wordToXml label=content/ /map:read I find this more understandable (but dunno about

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Jeff Turner wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 12:02:04PM +0200, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Frederic's question about search engine integration led me to questioning myself at how Cocoon's Lucene integration could be able to transparently index Word PDF documents along with XML-produced documents

Official i18n namespace (was Re: I18nTransformer : differences between2.1 and 2.0)

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Bruno Dumon wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 18:15, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi mates, I'm currently porting an i18nized application from 2.0 to 2.1 and hit an incompatible change due to the namespace change between the two versions. Browsing the docs, I can't see any

Re: converting FlowApp to new FOM

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
the org.apache.cocoon.environment.Request from it as Ugo appears to have done? Yep. Furthermore, you don't have to unwrap the request, since FOM_Cocoon provides a getRequest() method that gives access to the _real_ o.a.c.environment.Request object. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Jeudi, 14 aoû 2003, à 15:53 Europe/Zurich, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...But shouldn't we keep labels that are already used into pipelines ? E.g : map:read src=docs/{1}.doc label=raw, xdoc/ map:generate src=docs/{1}.doc type=word2xml label=raw/ map:transform src

Re: Fixing blocking bug 9835 for release

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
to a tree like structure (whatever that means), but I'm not sure if this is a good choice. Anyone (Sylvain perhaps) a better idea? Will have a look at it... Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware

Re: Switching cache to Persistent Store

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
it be the same thing affecting the CLI and Jetty? An idea : the MRUMemoryStore swaps its content to disk either when some memory limit is reached, either on dispose(). Does the CocoonBean call dispose() on Cocoon ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
. Is that RT-ish enough? Mmmmh... not as wild as Nicola Ken's. Try again ;-P Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ Any other proposal or opinion on this subject before we start a vote ? Can't you just enable generators in map:view in case when view starts with reader? No, since views capture the (XML

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
map:read, or make Cocoon a generic data pipelining framework capable of handling and transforming binary content. Well it's a RT after all.. ;) Content-aware and binary pipelines in the same post? Wow! Yes, it's definitely a RT ;-P Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: snip/ Here is another wild (or not?) thought. All this discussion comes down to the requirement of generating some XML out of the content usually served by the reader

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
views is through labels. And even worse : labels can be placed on component definitions, meaning a clean pipeline with no label attribute at all is full of these side effects. So what you call obfuscation has been there *for years*. And everybody's happy with it. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

Re: [RT] Views for readers

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Miles Elam wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Go back to first post of this thread, where (last paragraph) I proposed something similar. The whole discussion is about how we could have a syntax which doesn't introduce such verbosity in the sitemap. Verbosity is not necessarily a bad thing

Re: Treeprocessor bug with map:resource and views?

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
* the resources in the sitemap file ! But then I found another problem related to views on map:aggregate. I'm currently tracking that one ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I don't clearly understand what you want to achieve... It's plain simple :) Now, the usual way would be to create a new repository (cocoon-2.2) and copy everything from 2.1 in there. Then we have two branches which require syncing which can

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
even need a local list of the available blocks. But let's not steal Stefano's pleasure of explaining us the results of his worldwide discussions ! Stefano, seems like a lot of people are ready and waiting ;-) Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http

[slightly OT] JavaScript plugin for Eclipse

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
FYI, I just found a JavaScript plugin for Eclipse : http://sourceforge.net/projects/jseditor/ It does syntax highlighting outline. Not as good as java support, but helps writing flow scripts... Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http

Re: I18nTransformer : differences between 2.1 and 2.0

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: BTW, on my way to support legacy, I also supported non-namespaced attributes on i18n: elements. This means one can write i18n:text key=blah instead of i18n:text i18n:key=blah which always seemed cumbersome to me. Common sense tells me

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
do you need the 2.2 repo to be created before writing your RTs ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo

I18nTransformer : differences between 2.1 and 2.0

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
for this. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

Re: cocoon-based website needs search engine functionality

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
generated documents (the pdf and word docs mentioned above) ? Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML

Re: [ANN] Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Apache Cocoon 2.1 Released -- The Apache Cocoon Community is proud to announce the new release of Apache Cocoon. Woope ! Congrats to all ! Now let's work on the 2.2 ;-) Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware

Re: first time stories

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
and blablabla. It's about being part of this awesome group of friends. This is where the real pleasure is. Keep up the good work ! Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java

[OT] Carsten's period of silence

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
of the archives ! -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

Weird bug in aggregation and multiple cocoon: redirects

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
. Any idea anyone ? Thanks, Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http

Re: Weird bug in aggregation and multiple cocoon: redirects

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I encountered a strange bug in an application combining flow and aggegation : each page is an aggregation of navigation+content, and the content is a call to a flowscript. The bug seems to be related to multiple cocoon: related. I isolated it from the flow

Re: Flow + Hibernate sample offer

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
/com/anwrt/cocoon/cvssource/source/CVSSource.java?rev=1.2cvsroot=cvssourcecontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training

Re: accessing sitemap parameters in a flow script

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
this is already implemented, and if so, whether one can access the parameter by name, instead of depending on the sequence of attributes. map:call function=foo map:parameter name=bar value=baz/ /map:call and function foo() { var x = cocoon.parameters[baz]; } Easy, no ? ;-) Sylvain -- Sylvain

Re: accessing sitemap parameters in a flow script

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: var x = cocoon.parameters[baz]; Ooops. Should be var x = cocoon.parameters[bar]; of course. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon

Re: accessing sitemap parameters in a flow script

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Andreas Hartmann wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: map:call function=foo map:parameter name=bar value=baz/ /map:call and function foo() { var x = cocoon.parameters[baz]; } It's even easier: map:call function=foo map:parameter name=bar value=baz/ /map:call function foo(bar

Re: [ot] effective copywriting

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

Re: Weird bug in aggregation and multiple cocoon: redirects

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I encountered a strange bug in an application combining flow and aggegation : each page is an aggregation of navigation+content, and the content is a call to a flowscript. Fixed. Redirecting to a cocoon: URI within an internal call to the sitemap (i.e. cocoon

Re: cvsclient logicsheet

2003-08-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
to be moved into Cocoon's source tree. Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects } Orixo, the opensource XML business alliance

Re: HttpSessionBindingEvent

2003-08-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
? Any suggestions? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? [just curious : is barking the dog's sound in this context ?] Hope this helps, Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com { XML, Java

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