Re: [lang] Developer interested in common-lang project

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Yep. My view is that we should charge in, do whatever is the right thing and then when we're ready for release we can worry about back compat and naming and package changing etc. Please, please bring on the 1.5 desires :) I'm also favourable to be 1.6+ if there's any value, I just haven't found

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons CLI 1.2 (RC6)

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:56 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/03/2009, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote:   Henri Yandell wrote:     One more try :)     Stating that the Java version is 1.4 on the website

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons CLI 1.2 (RC6)

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: One more try :) Stating that the Java version is 1.4 on the website will be done post-release (I'm going to split the CLI and CLI2 websites). Actually I could not let go this failing test with

[lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang. I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (people need to use real enums now) packages from Lang's trunk and moved them to a lang-backcompat sibling component. I've not made it a branch, it lives at the same level as trunk and

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
FYI, I've removed the LangTwo 1.0 version from JIRA. 3.0 is the place to work on those features. We can then solve naming when we're ready to release. Hen On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread sebb
On 14/03/2009, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang. I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (people need to use real enums now) packages from Lang's trunk and moved them to a lang-backcompat sibling component. I've

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Henri Yandell a écrit : Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang. I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (people need to use real enums now) packages from Lang's trunk and moved them to a lang-backcompat sibling component. I've not made it a branch, it lives at

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons CLI 1.2 (RC6)

2009-03-14 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Hen, Henri Yandell wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: [snip] Therefore we may either ensure that a call to create will always reset the builder in case of an IAE (CLI-177) or we can simply fix the tests that use the builder by calling

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Commons - Commons Lang -

2009-03-14 Thread contin...@vmbuild.apache.org
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=163789projectId=114 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Ok Started at: Sat 14 Mar 2009 07:33:59 -0700 Finished at: Sat 14 Mar 2009 07:34:56 -0700 Total time: 57s Build Trigger: Schedule Build

Re: svn commit: r754482 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src: java/org/apache/commons/lang/CharSetUtils.java test/org/apache/commons/lang/CharSetUtilsTest.java

2009-03-14 Thread sebb
On 14/03/2009, bay...@apache.org bay...@apache.org wrote: Author: bayard Date: Sat Mar 14 16:29:28 2009 New Revision: 754482 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=754482view=rev Log: Removing deprecated evaluateSet and translate methods [LANG-438] Unfortunately a lot of the Javadoc

Re: svn commit: r754482 - in /commons/proper/lang/trunk/src: java/org/apache/commons/lang/CharSetUtils.java test/org/apache/commons/lang/CharSetUtilsTest.java

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:46 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/03/2009, bay...@apache.org bay...@apache.org wrote: Author: bayard  Date: Sat Mar 14 16:29:28 2009  New Revision: 754482  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=754482view=rev  Log:  Removing deprecated evaluateSet and

[continuum] BUILD SUCCESSFUL: Commons - Commons Lang -

2009-03-14 Thread contin...@vmbuild.apache.org
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=163889projectId=114 Build statistics: State: Ok Previous State: Failed Started at: Sat 14 Mar 2009 10:32:20 -0700 Finished at: Sat 14 Mar 2009 10:33:01 -0700 Total time: 40s Build Trigger: Schedule Build

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Matt Benson
I'd like to add a TypeUtils to the reflect subpackage, to provide as much help as possible for discovering type parameters of generic types. I recently commented in ClassUtils that a 3.0, Java5-compatible assignable test should assume autoboxing == true (since one would think the assignable

RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Gary Gregory
-Original Message- From: Matt Benson [mailto:gudnabr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:57 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out I'd like to add a TypeUtils to the reflect subpackage, to provide as much help as possible for

RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Sat, 3/14/09, Gary Gregory ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com wrote: From: Gary Gregory ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 2:19 PM -Original Message- From:

RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Gary Gregory
-Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out On 14/03/2009, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.

RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Gary Gregory
-Original Message- From: Matt Benson [mailto:gudnabr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:36 PM To: Commons Developers List Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Gary Gregory ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com wrote: From: Gary Gregory

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Paul Benedict
I am -1 on removing the enums package. It's still a useful design pattern even if Java 5 has native enum support. As one of the responsers noted, and as do I, I have used Apache Enum extensively and would not put the burden on developers to remove it just yet. Deprecate the package for 3.0 and

RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Jörg Schaible
Gary Gregory wrote: -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out And the various other backwards incompatible changes that people have been requesting.

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Jörg Schaible
Paul Benedict wrote: I am -1 on removing the enums package. It's still a useful design pattern even if Java 5 has native enum support. As one of the responsers noted, and as do I, I have used Apache Enum extensively and would not put the burden on developers to remove it just yet. Deprecate

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Oliver Heger
May I repeat my proposal [1] to add some utility classes related to concurrency? Oliver [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@commons.apache.org/msg08095.html Henri Yandell schrieb: Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang. I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums

Re: [compress] Todos before release 1

2009-03-14 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Siegfried Goeschl wrote: Hi Christian, if Dennis has no time I can help out during Hackathon - I owe him one or two favours already for maven-related help If I can persuade my employer to let me go to ApacheCon, we could do it together :-) Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl Christian

[Commons Wiki] Update of Compress by ChristianGrobmeier

2009-03-14 Thread Apache Wiki
Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Commons Wiki for change notification. The following page has been changed by ChristianGrobmeier: http://wiki.apache.org/commons/Compress The comment on the change is: modified everything to fit to new implementation,

Re: [VOTE] Promote Compress to Commons Proper

2009-03-14 Thread Dennis Lundberg
+1 Stefan Bodewig wrote: Hi all, since I'm unsure whether a PROPOSAL is needed for existing sandbox components as old as compress I tried to be save and created one based on the old Jakarta template:

Re: [VOTE] Promote Compress to Commons Proper

2009-03-14 Thread Dave Meikle
+1 2009/3/13 Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org Hi all, since I'm unsure whether a PROPOSAL is needed for existing sandbox components as old as compress I tried to be save and created one based on the old Jakarta template:

[Commons Wiki] Update of CompressRoadmap by ChristianGrobmeier

2009-03-14 Thread Apache Wiki
Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Commons Wiki for change notification. The following page has been changed by ChristianGrobmeier: http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CompressRoadmap The comment on the change is: added roadmap New page: ##language:en =

Re: [compress] Todos before release 1

2009-03-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Btw - I've had a success organizing this kind of thing on a wiki page. That worked very well for me with both Quartz work and Taglibs. Thanks Hen, this is a good idea. I have added an wiki page too: http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CompressRoadmap Christian

Re: [compress] Todos before release 1

2009-03-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks Siegfried! Hopefully you met up, have some beer, and bring compress to fly with that maven stuff :-) Cheers On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Siegfried Goeschl siegfried.goes...@it20one.at wrote: Hi Christian, if Dennis has no time I can help out during Hackathon - I owe him one or two

Re: [compress] Todos before release 1

2009-03-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
* Gump: I don't see compress here: http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/apache-commons/index.html Because you are looking at the wrong place 8-) http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/commons-sandbox/index.html thanks, that helped :-) * Stefan wrote: I'd love to work on Zip64 support

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Paul Benedict
Jorg, nothing is wrong with that. I missed that option. Thanks for pointing it out. Paul On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Oliver Heger oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de wrote: May I repeat my proposal [1] to add some utility classes related to concurrency? Oliver [1]

[Commons Wiki] Update of CompressRoadmap by ChristianGrobmeier

2009-03-14 Thread Apache Wiki
Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Commons Wiki for change notification. The following page has been changed by ChristianGrobmeier: http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CompressRoadmap The comment on the change is: added issue number for zip64 support, changed

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread sebb
On 14/03/2009, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: Gary Gregory wrote: -Original Message- From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM To: Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out And the various

Re: Moving to proper [Was: Promote Compress to Commons Proper]

2009-03-14 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Niall Pemberton

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Process: * Mail list if you want feedback to sanity check the idea. If it survives that: * Open up a JIRA ticket, post the code as a patch, discuss :) On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd like to add a TypeUtils to the reflect subpackage, to provide as

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Sure. Split on a new thread, or if the previous thread ended up with good concrete direction then make JIRA tickets and add patches. [Not that you shouldn't commit... adding a patch on JIRA first seems to work well for discussions]. On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Oliver Heger

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/03/2009, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: Gary Gregory wrote:   -Original Message-   From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]   Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM   To: Commons Developers List   Subject:

Re: [compress] Todos before release 1

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: * Gump: I don't see compress here: http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/apache-commons/index.html Because you are looking at the wrong place 8-) http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/commons-sandbox/index.html

RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Gary Gregory
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jörg Schaible Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:29 PM To: dev@commons.apache.org Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out Gary Gregory wrote: -Original Message- From: sebb

[lang] Item looking for work - LANG-396

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Just in case anyone is sitting and wanting to do something on Lang and not seeing the right thing to hit, LANG-396 has a good attachment from Richard Wheeldon suggesting areas to apply varargs that needs someone thinking about and sinking their teeth into. Hen

Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Gary Gregory ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com wrote: -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jörg Schaible Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:29 PM To: dev@commons.apache.org Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

[lang] 3.0 status

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
There'll be a lot of work in 3.0 I suspect. I'm going to pretend to organize it, y'all willing. = New JDK work done in most recent burst (r749101:r754602) = * JDK 1.5 will be the targetted JVM. * Deprecated code deleted. * Enum, Enums, NestableExceptions and Random code moved to a backcompat

Re: [lang] 3.0 status

2009-03-14 Thread Paul Benedict
My job responsibilities just recently involved converting 25K lines of code to java 5. I can take on the varargs and generics stuff. Paul On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: There'll be a lot of work in 3.0 I suspect. I'm going to pretend to organize it,

[lang] Dumb code?

2009-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
StandardToStringStyle seems to have nothing in but super calls to ToStringStyle. I'm thinking why? Looks like it just needs to exist and have the serialID and maybe the constructor. The rest of it is just noise. Any +1s to deleting all that code, or am I missing something? Hen

RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out

2009-03-14 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Sat, 3/14/09, Gary Gregory ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com wrote: From: Gary Gregory ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 2:39 PM -Original Message-

Re: svn commit: r754584 - in /commons/proper/lang/branches/LANG_POST_2_4/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang/builder: ToStringBuilder.java ToStringStyle.java

2009-03-14 Thread Matt Benson
Are we still using this branch? I created it for work on the reflect subpackage but later merged back to trunk... :| -Matt --- On Sat, 3/14/09, s...@apache.org s...@apache.org wrote: From: s...@apache.org s...@apache.org Subject: svn commit: r754584 - in