On 2013-10-01, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:
Reading may be simpler, here you can store the meta-information from the
start of the file in memory and then read entries as you go, ZipFile
inside the zip package does something
Hi all
we've already had users asking for a new release - in particular because
of 7z support.
From the top of my head there are two things I'd like to address before
the release and one that would be nice but I know I won't find time to
look into.
Should go into the release:
* support for
In general I like the release early, release often model. WRT helping
I'm afraid that ATM I won't be able to do more than help with checking
an RC.
Gary
On Oct 6, 2013, at 10:27, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:
Hi all
we've already had users asking for a new release - in particular
Since we now have multiple archivers that require seeking, I suggest
we add a SeekableStream class or something along those lines. The
Commons Imaging project also has the same problem to solve for images,
and it uses ByteSources, which can be arrays, files, or an InputStream
wrapper that
All,
The Apache Commons project seems to be languishing as of late and we
need some rejuvenation. Perhaps we should try to define our mission
as a project. What are our goals? What do we want to accomplish?
Who are our users/customers? What non-functional qualities do we want
our software to
I would like to know the metrics for that conclusion. I see plenty of
discussions and commits, but I'm not seeing any languishing.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 10/6/2013 11:30 AM, James Carman wrote:
All,
The Apache Commons project seems to be languishing as
Collections 4.x, nuff said
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Adrian Crum
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com wrote:
I would like to know the metrics for that conclusion. I see plenty of
discussions and commits, but I'm not seeing any languishing.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
On 2013-10-06, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
* look into and potentially fix date and permission handling issues in
arj.
done - inside the Ant compress antlib I now have archives created on
Windows and Linux and I get the correct date/time on both of them - one
has to consider the OS flag describing
On 2013-10-06, Gary Gregory wrote:
In general I like the release early, release often model.
I don't think we differ here. But before we cut a release we should be
happy with the APIas we'll be forced to live with that for some time.
Stefan
On 10/6/13 11:30 AM, James Carman wrote:
All,
The Apache Commons project seems to be languishing as of late and we
need some rejuvenation. Perhaps we should try to define our mission
as a project. What are our goals? What do we want to accomplish?
Who are our users/customers? What
Version numbers are cheap. We don't have to be *perfect* before every release.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:
On 2013-10-06, Gary Gregory wrote:
In general I like the release early, release often model.
I don't think we differ here. But before we
On 10/6/13 11:45 AM, James Carman wrote:
Collections 4.x, nuff said
Huh? Didn't we release a beta? We could say the same thing about
math 4.0, pool/dbcp 2.0, etc. These things are in progress. They
will get released. There is activity. I don't get the big problem
here.
Phil
On Sun, Oct
The fact that it has taken so long before we got something out for
Collections 4.x is just an embarrassment. How long has Java had
generics? What could be causing us to be so slow to get releases out?
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/6/13 11:45
On 6 Oct 2013, at 20:57, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 10/6/13 11:45 AM, James Carman wrote:
Collections 4.x, nuff said
Huh? Didn't we release a beta? We could say the same thing about
math 4.0, pool/dbcp 2.0, etc. These things are in progress. They
will get released. There is activity. I
On 2013-10-06, James Carman wrote:
Version numbers are cheap.
Again, no argument.
I wonder where you or Gregory got the idea it could be different.
All I said was here is my list of things I intend to do - which
contained two items and one of them has been done five hours later - and
asked
My point was that we need to try to get out of the mindset that we
have to be perfect before we do a release. Of course, we should fix
any glaring issues, but we need to get better about pushing releases
out more often into our users' hands. I'm not pointing at [compress]
here. Just responding
Let's take a look:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COLLECTIONS#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Aversions-panel
3.2.1 - 4/15/2008
3.2 - 5/14/2006
3.1 - 6/28/2004
We haven't had a release in over 5 years. The last one (which was a
point release) took two years
James,
thank you.
I believe Commons is in a bad shape.
Look at Commons Collections. Before 4 years somebody
said Guava is more modern, he his answer seems to be widely accepted.
http://stackoverflow.com/a/167/690771
This guy said we have no generics. What did we do in the past 4 years?
Hey guys,
I don't want to interrupt such an interesting discussion.
I just wanted to fix a typo I caught up.
If creating a constant with the right javadoc is ok, let's just do it,
there is no big issue on that.
Lemme me know if the following works.
jlmonteiro$ svn ci -m Adding a constant for
On 6 October 2013 20:47, jlmonte...@apache.org wrote:
Author: jlmonteiro
Date: Sun Oct 6 19:47:22 2013
New Revision: 1529670
URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1529670
Log:
Adding a constant for the activation flag.
Modified:
Hi Christian,
Am 06.10.2013 21:44, schrieb Christian Grobmeier:
James,
thank you.
I believe Commons is in a bad shape.
Look at Commons Collections. Before 4 years somebody
said Guava is more modern, he his answer seems to be widely accepted.
http://stackoverflow.com/a/167/690771
Then so will say no need to keep holding memory for this startup flag :p
Monitoring will just go ahead and will surely be reworked a bit so no need
to stop on details now JL
Le 6 oct. 2013 21:49, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO jeano...@gmail.com a écrit :
Hey guys,
I don't want to interrupt such an
On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Oliver Heger oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de wrote:
Hi Christian,
Am 06.10.2013 21:44, schrieb Christian Grobmeier:
James,
thank you.
I believe Commons is in a bad shape.
Look at Commons Collections. Before 4 years somebody
said Guava is more modern, he
+1, looks like there are plenty of examples.
Agree with Phil, how could we make things lighter or easier?
I mean to get more release out.
Jean-Louis
2013/10/6 Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com
On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Oliver Heger oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de
wrote:
Hi Christian,
On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:00 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
The fact that it has taken so long before we got something out for
Collections 4.x is just an embarrassment. How long has Java had
generics? What could be causing us to be so slow to get releases out?
I may be
So, would you say we have a problem attracting new committers or are
our current committers just losing interest (or a combination of
both)?
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:00 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:00 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
The fact that it has taken so long before we got something out for
Collections 4.x is just an embarrassment. How long has Java had
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
S/ale/make (love that iPhone :)
You know, the iPhone studies what words you use most often and assumes
that's what you mean ;) LOL
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To unsubscribe,
Of the various tasks that are part of keeping Commons going: making
releases, pushing to the website, etc., I feel like there are maybe a
couple of people who feel confident to do each task, and they're probably
not the same people for each task. I think it could be helpful to
establish a list
On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:51 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
So, would you say we have a problem attracting new committers or are
our current committers just losing interest (or a combination of
both)?
I think it's both, but the first is natural / will always be happening.
How about we just switch to git, Matt? Many projects have already
gone that route.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote:
Of the various tasks that are part of keeping Commons going: making
releases, pushing to the website, etc., I feel like there are maybe a
I'd be fine with that, personally.
Matt
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:05 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.comwrote:
How about we just switch to git, Matt? Many projects have already
gone that route.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote:
Of the
On 6 October 2013 21:46, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 6, 2013, at 12:00 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
The fact that it has taken so long before we got something out for
Collections 4.x is just an embarrassment. How long has Java had
generics? What
Phil,
You definitely have a point, but nothing helps build a development
community than seeing releases go out.
I want to be part of that
If there's no idea if or even when another version of a library will go
out, especially one that's hasn't released in a while, it deflates
possible
Stupid question: couldnt commons be broken in real projects (tlp) without
links (other than deps) between them? Would make them using adapted rules
to their need
Le 6 oct. 2013 23:25, Dave Brosius dbros...@apache.org a écrit :
Phil,
You definitely have a point, but nothing helps build a
On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote:
Stupid question: couldnt commons be broken in real projects (tlp) without
links (other than deps) between them? Would make them using adapted rules
to their need
Not a stupid question. We have talked about it in
On 6 October 2013 07:22, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 Oct 2013, at 14:29, James Carman wrote:
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Benedikt Ritter benerit...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm not sure I agree with all of your points. Yes, the sandbox is a place
to try new ideas out.
I agree on the The release process has always been a little bit of a
pain in the butt.
As you say most of people are volunteers so they prefer working on fun
part (coding and adding a new features) rather than wasting time on
too much (non needed?) procedures.
Yup that can be a long discussion
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