Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-12 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:14 AM, sebb wrote: > On 11 May 2011 14:51, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, sebb wrote: >> >>> However, if a breaking API change is needed, then the package >>> name/Maven ids will *have* to be changed. >> >> That's not different from a new maj

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread sebb
On 11 May 2011 14:51, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, sebb wrote: > >> However, if a breaking API change is needed, then the package >> name/Maven ids will *have* to be changed. > > That's not different from a new major release in commons. If you > anticipate the necessi

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Maurizio Cucchiara
I agree and moreover I hate whenever I try to add a maven dependency through Intellij Idea and I see 3 different major version, realizing that the small version is the latter. On 11 May 2011 15:41, Paul Benedict wrote: > Would you guys be willing to start at 4.0-SNAPSHOT so there's a direct > con

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Paul! yes I agree, according to Joerg's suggestion, version should be 4.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT. @Joerg: absolutely right, thanks for your help!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: > Would you guys be w

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, sebb wrote: > However, if a breaking API change is needed, then the package > name/Maven ids will *have* to be changed. That's not different from a new major release in commons. If you anticipate the necessity of binary changes, consider creating a maintenance br

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread sebb
On 11 May 2011 14:36, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb wrote: > >> I'd be inclined to keep the current package name and Maven ids during >> (most of) incubation. > > Disagreed. Changing package names etc. should be the first steps in > incubation. As should be the pu

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Paul Benedict
Would you guys be willing to start at 4.0-SNAPSHOT so there's a direct continuation of versioning? Just a novel thought since it might help others to see it's not a re-invention of OGNL, per se, but the continuation of it. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On May 11, 2011, at

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Gary Gregory
On May 11, 2011, at 9:36, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb wrote: > >> I'd be inclined to keep the current package name and Maven ids during >> (most of) incubation. > > Disagreed. Changing package names etc. should be the first steps in > incubation. As should be t

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb wrote: > I'd be inclined to keep the current package name and Maven ids during > (most of) incubation. Disagreed. Changing package names etc. should be the first steps in incubation. As should be the publication of an early release with the new package names

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread sebb
On 11 May 2011 13:00, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Simone, > > Simone Tripodi wrote: > >> Hi all guys, >> as you maybe already noticed, we started working on OGNL codebase, I >> some question that PMCs/Mentors can help to reply: >> >>  * is it fine updating groupId to `org.apache.commons` and artifac

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/5/11 Jörg Schaible > > * version number: there are 2 way of thinking about it. For someone > > is fine continuing from the old version number, IMHO it should be > > 0.1-incubating, since in my mind ognl != commons-ognl. Which one > > sounds better? I tried to see how running projects manage

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Simone, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > as you maybe already noticed, we started working on OGNL codebase, I > some question that PMCs/Mentors can help to reply: > > * is it fine updating groupId to `org.apache.commons` and artifactId > `commons-ognl` even if under incubation? +1 >

[OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, as you maybe already noticed, we started working on OGNL codebase, I some question that PMCs/Mentors can help to reply: * is it fine updating groupId to `org.apache.commons` and artifactId `commons-ognl` even if under incubation? * version number: there are 2 way of thinking about i