RE: audit of configuration

2013-11-15 Thread Jonathan Bond-Caron
On Thu Nov 14 06:12 PM, Josh Soref wrote: > I've converted that into a wiki page: > https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ConfigurationFiles > - Awesome, thanks for this. You should add: $PROJECT/platforms//www/cordova_plugins.js - Me

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Marcel Kinard
So does this mean that it would look something like this (in the case of the device plugin on android)? On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > We define two s that hold the plugin ID an version. In older >

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: > plugin.xml is where *plugin authors* define metadata. A user shouldn't be > looking there at all, unless for curiosity, and certainly not making edits > unless they are taking over the role of plugin author. > > And plugin.xml's are only use

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-15 Thread Marcel Kinard
Josh, indeed, thanks for all the improvements you've been making to the wiki. It helps all of us. On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Jonathan Bond-Caron wrote: > On Thu Nov 14 06:12 PM, Josh Soref wrote: >> I've converted that into a wiki page: >> https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ConfigurationFiles >

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-15 Thread Josh Soref
Jonathan wrote:   > You should add: I'll add it to the wiki if no one beats me to it. Please feel free to edit this page or any other. If you don't have the wiki edit bit, just send an email here with your account name and someone will give you the bit.  > Another use case to consider for more

Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Ian Clelland
After working with the File plugin for a week or so, I've gotten it more or less where I want it to be on iOS, and am working through Android. Looking at the end result, though, I expect that over 90% of the code has been touched in some way. (It's a huge diff.) I'd rather not simply dump this in t

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Marcel Kinard
Ian, will there be changes that app developers will need to do? If so, those should be clearly documented in a migration guide. If not, it sounds like the [improved] tests should pass on both the old and new versions, which would be sweet. Is there work which needs to be done on the other platf

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
I think the thing that irks me about the proposal to fiddle with s, is that right now plugins put them in tags. With these tags: - You can specify any target that's an xml file - You can specify any xpath in the parent attribute - plugman will splice in your XML into the target file if-and-only-i

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Josh Soref wrote: > Jonathan wrote: > > You should add: > > I'll add it to the wiki if no one beats me to it. > > Please feel free to edit this page or any other. If you don't have the > wiki edit bit, just send an email here with your account name and someone > w

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
Plan sounds well thought-out! On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Marcel Kinard wrote: > Ian, will there be changes that app developers will need to do? If so, > those should be clearly documented in a migration guide. If not, it sounds > like the [improved] tests should pass on both the old and

Re: engine elements in plugin.xml

2013-11-15 Thread Braden Shepherdson
Mentioning the platforms in the tags allows restricting the versions of platforms, which isn't possibly on tags. Braden On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Qi LUO wrote: > ‘or’ should work better for cordova-based engines. > ‘and’ works for engines of cordova family, but I suspect it’s duplicat

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Ian Clelland
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Marcel Kinard wrote: > Ian, will there be changes that app developers will need to do? If so, > those should be clearly documented in a migration guide. If not, it sounds > like the [improved] tests should pass on both the old and new versions, > which would be s

RE: audit of configuration

2013-11-15 Thread Jonathan Bond-Caron
On Fri Nov 15 09:28 AM, Josh Soref wrote: > Jonathan wrote: > > You should add: > > I'll add it to the wiki if no one beats me to it. > > Please feel free to edit this page or any other. If you don't have the wiki > edit bit, > just send an email here with your account name and someone will give

Re: audit of configuration

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
Added jbondc to https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributorsGroup. You should have wiki edit access now. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Jonathan Bond-Caron < jbo...@gdesolutions.com> wrote: > On Fri Nov 15 09:28 AM, Josh Soref wrote: > > Jonathan wrote: > > > You should add: > > > > I'll add

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Braden Shepherdson
Looking back over all of this discussion, we have a growing trend of dissatisfaction with the current config file setup. We've talked in the past about moving to JSON format, Andrew is suggesting above replacing 99% of uses with specialized tags to inject permissions and s, my summary in the other

Version and Id is not set correctly in Windows 8 package.appxmanifest

2013-11-15 Thread Maxime LUCE
Hi, When using CLI with Windows 8 Platform : 1. Cordova default version string is not compatible with Windows 8 one (0.0.0 vs 0.0.0.0) so add a .0 automatically. 2. In package.appxmanifest, Application.id must be a safe name, which is not actually, we can use packageName (which is safe) or co

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Ian Clelland
I've created CB-5403 as the über-ticket for this; various bits of it are in subtasks. Once I have the tests and the JS updated, then platform owners can take a look and see whether they have anything to do to support their own schemes. As general guidelines, I would say: * If you can intercept f

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
That sounds good to me. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > Looking back over all of this discussion, we have a growing trend of > dissatisfaction with the current config file setup. We've talked in the > past about moving to JSON format, Andrew is suggesting above repl

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Carlos Santana
+1 Yep I agree this way users can get list of plugins installed from javascript pretty easy on all platforms from a web resource (i.e. cordova_plugins.js ) On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > That sounds good to me. > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Braden Shepherdson

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Anis KADRI
+1 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Carlos Santana wrote: > +1 > > Yep I agree this way users can get list of plugins installed from > javascript pretty easy on all platforms from a web resource (i.e. > cordova_plugins.js > ) > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > >> That

3.2 doc translation --- pulling now

2013-11-15 Thread Lisa Seacat DeLuca
I'm doing a pull request now of everything under the master branch to push into the crowdin translation services. If anyone has any objections speak now... Lisa

Re: 3.2 doc translation --- pulling now

2013-11-15 Thread Michael Brooks
Should be fine. The docs are always improving, so now is as good of a time as any. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Lisa Seacat DeLuca wrote: > I'm doing a pull request now of everything under the master branch to push > into the crowdin translation services. If anyone has any objections speak

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Michal Mocny
Hmm, sounds pretty un-intrusive. Ship it! We should probably schedule a whole hack-a-thon for figuring out the future of config files. Maybe at our next face-to-face meetup, or just schedule a hangout in the new year? -Michal On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > +1 > > On F

Platforms Meetup Summary

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
Meetup was a tonne of fun! Thanks all who attended. Here's my stab at a summary. If I've missed anything, please add it in: Attendees: Andrew, Ian, Michal, David, Max, Mark, Shazron, Joe, Bryan, Gorkem, Carlos, Josh, Anis Presentations: Andrew did a code walkthrough of AppHarness & how its URL re

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread purplecabbage
Considering the magnitude of the changes I would have expected that this was just a new file plugin. The previous version was based on a spec, and if we are deviating from it we should probably maintain both, and possibly even make a recommendation to the w3c. I hope we at least do a major vers

Andrew Going on Vacation

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
I was out last week for Full Frontal (talk slides if anyone's curious: http://goo.gl/gtDkku) Starting tomorrow, I'll be on vacation until a week Tuesday (coming back Nov 27). Going to New Orleans to soak up some warmth! :)

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread purplecabbage
+1 to the short term fix and the deep dive punt Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Michal Mocny wrote: > > Hmm, sounds pretty un-intrusive. Ship it! > > We should probably schedule a whole hack-a-thon for figuring out the future > of config files. Maybe at our next face-to-f

RE: Windows8 and 8.1, to merge or to branch

2013-11-15 Thread Maxime LUCE
I will try to explain why I think there must be two separate platforms for Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Sorry if some ideas are not well worded, I'm French and sometimes it's not easy !! 1. It allow those who want to use IE 11 additions like WebGL, canvas additions, or videos to start developing

Re: Blog Post Review

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Grieve
shipped. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Dick Van den Brink < d_vandenbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > Links to the apache bit websites aren't working anymore.. I thought they > did a dew minutes ago. Can someone confirm? > > > > > > > Verzonden met Windows Mail > > > > > > Van: Brian LeRoux > Verzo

Re: Andrew Going on Vacation

2013-11-15 Thread Steven Gill
Sweet man! Have a great vacation! On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > I was out last week for Full Frontal (talk slides if anyone's curious: > http://goo.gl/gtDkku) > > Starting tomorrow, I'll be on vacation until a week Tuesday (coming back > Nov 27). Going to New Orleans

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Ian Clelland
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:40 PM, purplecabbage wrote: > Considering the magnitude of the changes I would have expected that this > was just a new file plugin. The previous version was based on a spec, and > if we are deviating from it we should probably maintain both, and possibly > even make a re

Re: Andrew Going on Vacation

2013-11-15 Thread Anis KADRI
Have a great time! I've been wanting to go down there too sometime. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Steven Gill wrote: > Sweet man! Have a great vacation! > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > >> I was out last week for Full Frontal (talk slides if anyone's curious: >

RE: Andrew Going on Vacation

2013-11-15 Thread Dick Van den Brink
Have fun! Sent from my Windows Phone From: Anis KADRI Sent: ‎11/‎15/‎2013 20:22 To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Andrew Going on Vacation Have a great time! I've been wanting to go down there too s

Re: input type=file broken on Android 4.4

2013-11-15 Thread Shazron
This "filling in the gap" is what we were born to do On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > Ugly indeed but that is what we do! =) > > Probably just a docs issue doing what you describe. > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Andrew Grieve >wrote: > > > I'll ask around and se

Re: plugin documentation: param onload

2013-11-15 Thread Shazron
Hi Axel, File the issue and just copy in your email :) Someone will get to it eventually. Perhaps you could send a pull-request as well. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:20 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > I think this issue > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4293?jql=text%20~%20%22onload%22 > documents

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Yup that is a sound plan. I think we should continue discussion on the config file thing however. We have clearly accumulated some technical debt here as it is difficult to reason (even describe) the config file dog pile. Given the maturity of Cordova I feel paying off tech debt is crucially import

Re: Transitioning to a better File API implementation

2013-11-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Awesome stuff Ian. Our community is going to love this. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Ian Clelland wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:40 PM, purplecabbage >wrote: > > > Considering the magnitude of the changes I would have expected that this > > was just a new file plugin. The previous vers

Re: Andrew Going on Vacation

2013-11-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
Enjoy the warmth and pls have a drink on Bourbon Street for me! (Also everyone def check out Andrew's Full Frontal presentation. Loads of great mobile web perf stuff in there.) On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Dick Van den Brink < d_vandenbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > Have fun! > > Sent from my

RE: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Jonathan Bond-Caron
On Fri Nov 15 11:29 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > I propose three things: > 1. Punt all discussion of overhauling configuration files to the new year. > 2. Drop my proposals above, as well as the summary Anis posted of last night's > discussion. > 3. Solve the immediate use-case of AppHarness wan

Re: Plugin download counts

2013-11-15 Thread Anis KADRI
Should be fixed now On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Anis KADRI wrote: > Thanks. I am aware of the issue. I just haven't had time to fix it yet. > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Ray Camden wrote: >> Consistently now if I go to plugins.cordova.io, then More, than Stats, it >> does not load i

amazon-fireos pull requests

2013-11-15 Thread Naik, Archana
Hello, Devs As you guys know, I am working on cordova amazon-fireos platform port. I have made changes in CLI, core plug-ins and plugman repos to add amazon-fireos platform support. We would like to support cordova 3.0 and above. Most repos have master, 3.0.x and 3.1.x branches. Below is the li

Re: amazon-fireos pull requests

2013-11-15 Thread Joe Bowser
Excellent! Thanks for sending the pull requests. On Nov 15, 2013 1:34 PM, "Naik, Archana" wrote: > Hello, Devs > > As you guys know, I am working on cordova amazon-fireos platform port. I > have made changes in CLI, core plug-ins and plugman repos to add > amazon-fireos platform support. > We wou

Re: tag, and accessing the plugin list

2013-11-15 Thread Michal Mocny
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jonathan Bond-Caron < jbo...@gdesolutions.com> wrote: > On Fri Nov 15 11:29 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > > I propose three things: > > 1. Punt all discussion of overhauling configuration files to the new > year. > > 2. Drop my proposals above, as well as the sum

Re: Windows8 and 8.1, to merge or to branch

2013-11-15 Thread Dick Van den Brink
+1 Maxine! note: I'm also willing to help to with the Windows/WP projects to make them more stable 😊 Verzonden met Windows Mail Van: Maxime LUCE Verzonden: ‎vrijdag‎ ‎15‎ ‎november‎ ‎2013 ‎19‎:‎58 Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org I will try to explain why I think there must be two separat

Re: Andrew Going on Vacation

2013-11-15 Thread James Jong
Enjoy Andrew! -James Jong On Nov 15, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > I was out last week for Full Frontal (talk slides if anyone's curious: > http://goo.gl/gtDkku) > > Starting tomorrow, I'll be on vacation until a week Tuesday (coming back > Nov 27). Going to New Orleans to soak up so

Re: input type=file broken on Android 4.4

2013-11-15 Thread James Jong
Ugh… hopefully there's a better solution. -James Jong On Nov 14, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > Ugly indeed but that is what we do! =) > > Probably just a docs issue doing what you describe. > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > >> I'll ask around and see if

Re: plugin documentation: param onload

2013-11-15 Thread James Jong
Yes. Please file a JIRA issue. Sounds like it will be a great help to others who hit this. -James Jong On Nov 15, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Shazron wrote: > Hi Axel, > File the issue and just copy in your email :) Someone will get to it > eventually. Perhaps you could send a pull-request as well. >