Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread Thorsten Ziehm
Hi, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > In the meantime, I have converted the original .sxw to .odt and uploaded > it. Could me give me a link to that document or send me in a privat mail. I will check if the crash is reproducible in our environment or in stress tests with automated TestTool. Tha

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 10:21 -0400, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:39 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: > > Jim, > > > > > How is it possible to blame a software crash on data input? Is not one of > > > the > > > rules of good software (which, of course, OOo is) that it must dete

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:39 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: > Jim, > > > How is it possible to blame a software crash on data input? Is not one of > > the > > rules of good software (which, of course, OOo is) that it must detect bad > > input, e.g. the "problem with the document", provide a rational r

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread Frank Peters
Jim, How is it possible to blame a software crash on data input? Is not one of the rules of good software (which, of course, OOo is) that it must detect bad input, e.g. the "problem with the document", provide a rational response (e.g. fix it, explain it), and keep going? You know, that's the

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread Thorsten Ziehm
Sorry I mixed up Jim and Gary here! Thorsten Ziehm wrote: Hi Jim, we take care on each crash we know on OOo. That's why I want to discuss the problems in the correct mailing lists and why I provide you the alternative to send me a document which show the crash reproducibly. But if you are not

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread Gary Schnabl
Jim Harris wrote: How is it possible to blame a software crash on data input? Is not one of the rules of good software (which, of course, OOo is) that it must detect bad input, e.g. the "problem with the document", provide a rational response (e.g. fix it, explain it), and keep going? Is a sof

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread Jim Harris
How is it possible to blame a software crash on data input? Is not one of the rules of good software (which, of course, OOo is) that it must detect bad input, e.g. the "problem with the document", provide a rational response (e.g. fix it, explain it), and keep going? Is a software crash, oth

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-08 Thread Thorsten Ziehm
Hi Gary, first of all, this isn't the correct mailing list to discuss bugs in OOo. Please discuss this in [EMAIL PROTECTED], there you will get the help you needed. I took a look into our data base for stacktraces. I could found only one with your email address and this stack looks like a proble

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Peters
Gary Schnabl wrote: I was serious when asking you to file an issue so that QA can have a look. Just like all of OOo, QA relies on user input. I sent in a number of crash reports when they first occurred. Great. I'll forward your posting to the QA folks. Frank ---

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-07 Thread Gary Schnabl
I was serious when asking you to file an issue so that QA can have a look. Just like all of OOo, QA relies on user input. I sent in a number of crash reports when they first occurred. Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Peters
Gary, A large number of Windows apps work fine on XP but are not able to install or run on Vista, in general. Why couldn't some of that plague OOo? Sure, this is possible. I don't doubt your descriptions. Not having many (or any) QA complaints may not mean that much, considering that only a

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-07 Thread DougT
Frank Peters wrote: Gary, I haven't experienced problems with Writer until fairly recently. From "reading the mail" in some OOo forums, it appears that the Windows Vista (and perhaps XP) implementations are not anywhere near as stable as the previous versions. I have a helluva time trying to

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-07 Thread Gary Schnabl
Frank Peters wrote: Gary, I haven't experienced problems with Writer until fairly recently. From "reading the mail" in some OOo forums, it appears that the Windows Vista (and perhaps XP) implementations are not anywhere near as stable as the previous versions. I have a helluva time trying to

Re: [documentation-dev] propensity of version 2.2 to repeatedly crash

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Peters
Gary, I haven't experienced problems with Writer until fairly recently. From "reading the mail" in some OOo forums, it appears that the Windows Vista (and perhaps XP) implementations are not anywhere near as stable as the previous versions. I have a helluva time trying to convert .sxw files to