2015-05-07 03:37, Wiles, Keith:
> On 5/6/15, 4:49 PM, "Wiles, Keith" wrote:
> >On 5/6/15, 2:37 PM, "Marc Sune" wrote:
> >>On 06/05/15 23:09, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>> Previously, there was a discussion about the contribution rules and
> >>>tools:
> >>>
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:12:28AM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> Forcing a change of tools and workflows on everybody WILL create ill-will if
> nothing else.
>
> Also please realize that not everybody sees GitHub as the greatest thing
> since sliced bread. It has quite some "Hotel California"
I did not finish a thought for some reason.
On 5/6/15, 4:49 PM, "Wiles, Keith" wrote:
>Hi Thomas, (sorry about the length)
>
>On 5/6/15, 2:37 PM, "Marc Sune" wrote:
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>>
>>
>>On 06/05/15 23:09, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm back from mini-holidays and it's good to see
Hi Thomas, (sorry about the length)
On 5/6/15, 2:37 PM, "Marc Sune" wrote:
>
>
>On 06/05/15 23:09, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm back from mini-holidays and it's good to see that there are
>> a lot of proposals trying to improve our workflow.
>> Most of the discussions are
On 06/05/15 23:09, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm back from mini-holidays and it's good to see that there are
> a lot of proposals trying to improve our workflow.
> Most of the discussions are focus on process and tools, however
> we must keep in mind that submitting clean
Hello everyone,
I'm back from mini-holidays and it's good to see that there are
a lot of proposals trying to improve our workflow.
Most of the discussions are focus on process and tools, however
we must keep in mind that submitting clean patches and doing more
reviews can greatly improve the life
On 05/06/2015 11:30 AM, Simon K?gstr?m wrote:
> On 2015-05-06 10:12, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>> On 05/05/2015 07:43 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>>
>>> GitHub offers a different set of processes and
>>> tools, which we do not have to create. Moving to GitHub is a change
>>> for the community and I feel
On 05/05/2015 07:43 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 5, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Neil Horman wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 10:25:00PM -0500, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>
On May 4, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> On 5/4/15, 10:48 AM,
On 2015-05-06 10:12, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 05/05/2015 07:43 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>
>> GitHub offers a different set of processes and
>> tools, which we do not have to create. Moving to GitHub is a change
>> for the community and I feel a good change for the better.
>
> Like quite a few
Hi,
It is always difficult to sell change unless there is a majority
in favour of it. If the project was already on GitHub and someone
was proposing to move to a ML/Patch workflow then we would
probably see as much resistance.
Here are some advantages and disadvantage of GitHub from personal
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 10:30:04AM +0200, Simon K?gstr?m wrote:
> On 2015-05-06 10:12, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> > On 05/05/2015 07:43 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> >
> >> GitHub offers a different set of processes and
> >> tools, which we do not have to create. Moving to GitHub is a change
> >> for
Neil and John and anyone else, if I have been rude or ugly in anyway that was
not my intent. Please accept my apologies for being rude or condescending.
Sent from my iPhone
>> On May 5, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
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>> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 04:43:08PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 5, 2015, at 10:58 AM, John W. Linville
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 04:43:08PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>>
>> Please take a breath and relax as we all want the best for DPDK
Hi John
I am sorry you see it this way as I stated in the email parts you
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 5, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Neil Horman wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 10:25:00PM -0500, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>>> On May 4, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
On 5/4/15, 10:48 AM, "Matthew Hall" wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 04:43:08PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 5, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Neil Horman wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 10:25:00PM -0500, Jim Thompson wrote:
> >>
> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Wiles, Keith
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 06:30:48PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 5, 2015, at 10:58 AM, John W. Linville
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 04:43:08PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> >>
> >> Please take a breath and relax as we all want the best for
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 04:43:08PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> Please take a breath and relax as we all want the best for DPDK.
I cannot believe how rude, asinine, and condascending your attitude
in this thread has been. If this is the future of the DPDK community,
I'm surprised that anyone
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 10:25:00PM -0500, Jim Thompson wrote:
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> > On May 4, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/4/15, 10:48 AM, "Matthew Hall" wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:43:48PM +, Qiu, Michael wrote:
> >>> What mail client do you use? I think
On 5/4/15, 10:48 AM, "Matthew Hall" wrote:
>On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:43:48PM +, Qiu, Michael wrote:
>> What mail client do you use? I think mail client supporting thread mode
>> is important for patch review.
>
>Like many UNIX people, I use mutt.
>
>My concern is that, if we're making
Hi Marc
On 5/4/15, 2:08 PM, "Marc Sune" wrote:
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>On 02/05/15 15:59, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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>> On 5/2/15, 6:40 AM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
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>>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:36:58PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
> Projects like
On 5/4/15, 1:34 PM, "Marc Sune" wrote:
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>On 01/05/15 20:17, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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>> On 5/1/15, 1:09 PM, "Stephen Hemminger"
>>wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 1 May 2015 15:56:32 +
>>> "Wiles, Keith" wrote:
>>>
Hi Everyone,
I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving
On 02/05/15 15:59, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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> On 5/2/15, 6:40 AM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
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>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:36:58PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
Projects like GCC, GLIBC, binutils, busybox, etc or what?
A.
On 01/05/15 20:17, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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> On 5/1/15, 1:09 PM, "Stephen Hemminger" wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 May 2015 15:56:32 +
>> "Wiles, Keith" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
>>> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
> On May 4, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote:
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>
>
> On 5/4/15, 10:48 AM, "Matthew Hall" wrote:
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>> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:43:48PM +, Qiu, Michael wrote:
>>> What mail client do you use? I think mail client supporting thread mode
>>> is important for patch review.
>>
>>
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 10:48:57AM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:43:48PM +, Qiu, Michael wrote:
> > What mail client do you use? I think mail client supporting thread mode
> > is important for patch review.
>
> Like many UNIX people, I use mutt.
>
> My concern is
On 04/05/15 08:52, Simon Ka*gstro"m wrote:
> On 2015-05-01 17:56, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
>> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
>> [...]
> While I'm really mostly a DPDK outsider, I'd like to express my support
> for this
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:43:48PM +, Qiu, Michael wrote:
> What mail client do you use? I think mail client supporting thread mode
> is important for patch review.
Like many UNIX people, I use mutt.
My concern is that, if we're making the widespread adoption, usage, and
contributions for
On 2015-05-01 17:56, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
> [...]
While I'm really mostly a DPDK outsider, I'd like to express my support
for this suggestion. For my part, I'm mostly interested in the
On 5/1/15, 10:56 AM, "Wiles, Keith" wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
>primary DPDK site. http://github.com
Here is a good page showing the GitHub features:
https://github.com/features/
>
>I believe the DPDK community can benefit
Neil
On 5/3/15, 2:00 PM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
>On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 07:10:11PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/15, 1:48 PM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:31:08AM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>> >> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:45:12PM -0400, Neil Horman
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 07:10:11PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>
>
> On 5/1/15, 1:48 PM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
>
> >On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:31:08AM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:45:12PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> >> > Yes, but as you said above, using a web
On 5/2/15, 7:37 AM, "Thomas F Herbert" wrote:
>On 5/2/15 7:40 AM, Neil Horman wrote:
>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:36:58PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
Projects like GCC, GLIBC, binutils, busybox, etc or what?
A.
On 5/2/15, 6:40 AM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
>On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:36:58PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
>> > Projects like GCC, GLIBC, binutils, busybox, etc or what?
>> >
>> > A.
>>
>> You'll notice all of these are low-level
On 5/2/15 7:40 AM, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:36:58PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
>>> Projects like GCC, GLIBC, binutils, busybox, etc or what?
>>>
>>> A.
>> You'll notice all of these are low-level UNIX hacker
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:36:58PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
> > Projects like GCC, GLIBC, binutils, busybox, etc or what?
> >
> > A.
>
> You'll notice all of these are low-level UNIX hacker sorts of tools mostly,
> with the
On 5/1/15, 2:10 PM, "Wiles, Keith" wrote:
>
>
>On 5/1/15, 1:48 PM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
>
>>On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:31:08AM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:45:12PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
>>> > Yes, but as you said above, using a web browser doesn't make
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:49:51PM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 11:09:14AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > With email, the patches are right in front of developers and easier to quote
> > for review comments.
>
> Right in front of that subset of developers who do
Hi,
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:45:12PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > - GitHub manages the patches via pull requests and can be easily seen
> > via a web browser.
> > - The down side is you do have to use a web browser to do some work, but
> > the bulk of the everyday work would be done as it
On 5/1/15, 1:48 PM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
>On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:31:08AM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
>> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:45:12PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
>> > Yes, but as you said above, using a web browser doesn't make
>>reviewing patches
>> > faster. In fact, I would assert
On 5/1/15, 1:09 PM, "Stephen Hemminger" wrote:
>On Fri, 1 May 2015 15:56:32 +
>"Wiles, Keith" wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
>> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
>>
>> I believe the DPDK community can benefit
On 5/1/15, 11:45 AM, "Neil Horman" wrote:
>On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 03:56:32PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
>> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
>>
>I'm not explicitly opposed to this, but I'm
On 5/1/15, 12:31 PM, "Matthew Hall" wrote:
>Normally I'm a big command-line supporter. However I have found reviewing
>patches by email for me is about the most painful workflow.
>
>The emails are pages and pages.
>
>The replies from commenters are buried in the walls of text.
>
>Replies to
Hi Everyone,
I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
primary DPDK site. http://github.com
I believe the DPDK community can benefit from being at a very well know
world wide site. GitHub seems to have the most eyes of any of the open
source Git repos today and it
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:31:08AM -0700, Matthew Hall wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:45:12PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > Yes, but as you said above, using a web browser doesn't make reviewing
> > patches
> > faster. In fact, I would assert that it slows the process down, as it
> >
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 10:59:32PM +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
> Projects like GCC, GLIBC, binutils, busybox, etc or what?
>
> A.
You'll notice all of these are low-level UNIX hacker sorts of tools mostly,
with the partial exception of busybox. But even that is mainly for embedded
use. It
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 11:09:14AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> With email, the patches are right in front of developers and easier to quote
> for review comments.
Right in front of that subset of developers who do everything kernel-style,
perhaps yes. But this sort of workflow is in the
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 03:56:32PM +, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
>
I'm not explicitly opposed to this, but I'm having trouble matching up the
technical and governance
On Fri, 1 May 2015 15:56:32 +
"Wiles, Keith" wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I believe the DPDK community would benefit from moving to GitHub as the
> primary DPDK site. http://github.com
>
> I believe the DPDK community can benefit from being at a very well know
> world wide site. GitHub seems
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 12:45:12PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> Yes, but as you said above, using a web browser doesn't make reviewing patches
> faster. In fact, I would assert that it slows the process down, as it
> prevents
> quick, easy command line access to patch review (as you have with a
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