Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-19 Thread Guillaume Nodet
cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation/development/provisional-osgi-api-policy.html

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-19 Thread Marcel Offermans
about this before I committed :-) david jencks On May 15, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-19 Thread David Bosschaert
, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation/development/provisional

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-19 Thread Marcel Offermans
Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation/development/provisional-osgi-api-policy.html

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-19 Thread David Bosschaert
On 19 May 2014 10:54, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote: Hello David, On 19 May 2014, at 10:22 , David Bosschaert david.bosscha...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/16/14, 20:43 , David Jencks wrote: for instance, debugging the conformance test suite will be more or less impossible,

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
integration tests. thanks for reminding me to think about this before I committed :-) david jencks On May 15, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-17 Thread David Jencks
On May 15, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-17 Thread Richard S. Hall
I committed :-) david jencks On May 15, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org

Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-16 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation/development/provisional-osgi-api-policy.html While the policy is good and nice, it requires

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-16 Thread David Jencks
:-) david jencks On May 15, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-16 Thread Richard S. Hall
: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation/development/provisional-osgi-api-policy.html While the policy is good and nice, it requires

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-16 Thread Guillaume Nodet
jencks On May 15, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-16 Thread David Jencks
an unshaded bundle for unshaded integration tests. thanks for reminding me to think about this before I committed :-) david jencks On May 15, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation/development/provisional-osgi-api-policy.html While the policy

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API?

2014-05-16 Thread Richard S. Hall
...@apache.org wrote: Hi, right now we have a policy for handling provisional OSGi API (API that is currently drafted in the OSGi expert groups but not final or officially released yet): http://felix.apache.org/documentation/development/provisional-osgi-api-policy.html While the policy is good

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Felix Meschberger
a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different people to different decisions. Thus

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Richard S. Hall
a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different people to different decisions. Thus

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Felix Meschberger
need to mandate a global Felix policy for this and subprojects can choose to support two APIs if they want. - richard Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall: For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Guillaume Nodet
to support two APIs if they want. -     richard    Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall:    For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Richard S. Hall
time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different people to different

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Guillaume Nodet
:    For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Guillaume Nodet
two APIs if they want. -         richard    Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall:    For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Richard S. Hall
Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall: For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-23 Thread Richard S. Hall
with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different people to different decisions. Thus, its about time we defined

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-22 Thread Guillaume Nodet
, I don't think we need to mandate a global Felix policy for this and subprojects can choose to support two APIs if they want. -  richard  Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall:  For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-22 Thread Richard S. Hall
think we need to mandate a global Felix policy for this and subprojects can choose to support two APIs if they want. -richard Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall: For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-22 Thread Richard S. Hall
think we need to mandate a global Felix policy for this and subprojects can choose to support two APIs if they want. -richard Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall: For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-22 Thread Richard S. Hall
played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different people to different

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-20 Thread Derek Baum
policy for this and subprojects can choose to support two APIs if they want. - richard Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall: For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-20 Thread Richard S. Hall
played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different people to different decisions. Thus

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-19 Thread Richard S. Hall
, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different people to different decisions

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-19 Thread Richard S. Hall
we need to mandate a global Felix policy for this and subprojects can choose to support two APIs if they want. - richard Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall: For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-19 Thread Karl Pauls
:  For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-18 Thread Felix Meschberger
. Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall: For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-18 Thread Guillaume Nodet
releases the official API, we can still keep our internal API for certain period of time thus supporting both API, if we so wish. Regards Felix Am 17.09.2010 18:35, schrieb Richard S. Hall:  For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting

Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Richard S. Hall
For a long time, we've played a little fast and loose with our handling of provisional OSGi API. Starting with the OBR 1.6.0 and Gogo 0.6.0 releases, we've started to evolve a policy on how to handle this, but nothing has been decided concretely. This is problematic since it leads different

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Marcel Offermans
On 17 Sep 2010, at 18:35 , Richard S. Hall wrote: From my point of view, approach (1) might not be awesome, but it results in a simpler process than (2). So, I'd recommend (1). If the majority prefers (2), then we can do that (although I think we'll have to run the decision by the board

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/17/10 11:36, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 18:35 , Richard S. Hall wrote: From my point of view, approach (1) might not be awesome, but it results in a simpler process than (2). So, I'd recommend (1). If the majority prefers (2), then we can do that (although I think

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/17/10 12:11, Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 11:36, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 18:35 , Richard S. Hall wrote: From my point of view, approach (1) might not be awesome, but it results in a simpler process than (2). So, I'd recommend (1). If the majority prefers (2),

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Marcel Offermans
On 17 Sep 2010, at 21:12 , Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 12:11, Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 11:36, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 18:35 , Richard S. Hall wrote: From my point of view, approach (1) might not be awesome, but it results in a simpler process than (2). So,

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/17/10 12:54, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 21:12 , Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 12:11, Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 11:36, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 18:35 , Richard S. Hall wrote: From my point of view, approach (1) might not be awesome, but it

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Marcel Offermans
On 17 Sep 2010, at 22:27 , Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 12:54, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 21:12 , Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 12:11, Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 11:36, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 18:35 , Richard S. Hall wrote: From my point

Re: Handling of provisional OSGi API

2010-09-17 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/17/10 13:41, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 22:27 , Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 12:54, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at 21:12 , Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 12:11, Richard S. Hall wrote: On 9/17/10 11:36, Marcel Offermans wrote: On 17 Sep 2010, at