Re: [ASJS] AS to HTML5 in action: announcing the ASJS Publisher and the VanillaSDK JS framework.

2013-01-27 Thread Om
Erik, This sounds very exciting. I cant wait to play around with your prototype! I am looking at the README files and I dont seem to be able to locate anything regarding how to build and use your prototype. The falcon\trunk\compiler.jx\README does not seem to have anything significant.

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Frank Wienberg
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Alain Ekambi jazzmatad...@gmail.comwrote: @Roland For the SDK it s surely not a problem since it s all Apache. But anyone using the Apache Flex SDK to write an ExtJS application will need a commercial license from Sencha or will have to open source the code.

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Please take a look at the proof of concept (both the intermediate and release code) before making these kinds of statements. I'd like to, but you admitted yourself that it has quite an initial overhead to set up. Could you perhaps set up an online demo where one can observe a running system?

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Schmalle
Is Example.js a generated cross compile? Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl: Please take a look at the proof of concept (both the intermediate and release code) before making these kinds of statements. I'd like to, but you admitted yourself that it has quite an initial overhead

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Frank Wienberg
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Please take a look at the proof of concept (both the intermediate and release code) before making these kinds of statements. I'd like to, but you admitted yourself that it has quite an initial overhead to set up.

[Falcon][Discuss] Modularity, extensibility and configurability of the Falcon compiler framework

2013-01-27 Thread Roland Zwaga
Good day to all of you :) Hold on, I think this is going to be a long message... Moving on from the latest discussion between Erik and Frank about the ideal implementation of AS-JS cross-compilation, I think its perhaps an interesting venture to talk a little bit about some possible changes we

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Frank Wienberg fr...@jangaroo.net: I'm looking forward to seeing the Falcon implementation of your AMD/RequireJS ideas and it's output, so we can compare the various suggested approaches on their technical merits as well as their theoretical underpinnings. Okay, we can wait for

Re: [Falcon][Discuss] Modularity, extensibility and configurability of the Falcon compiler framework

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Schmalle
+1 on this. FYI, As the Apache way suggests, itch your scratch... This one is going to happen and I will be working on it with Roland. We are looking for constructive criticism, not a blessing. :) I already have 2 compilers to work with and it's ridiculous one parse session can't be used

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Frank Wienberg
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Michael Schmalle apa...@teotigraphix.comwrote: Quoting Frank Wienberg fr...@jangaroo.net: I'm looking forward to seeing the Falcon implementation of your AMD/RequireJS ideas and it's output, so we can compare the various suggested approaches on their

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Schmalle
Frank, Definitely a cultural difference here with my writing below. Basically, the point was, you CAN compare right now but, I think Erik was or just missed that fact you CAN compare right now. As far as your comments about how things should be compared, my point was, start comparing! :)

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Frank Wienberg
That being said, I think both Erik and I got the ball rolling. It is not as if we are just talking theory here. We both have a working demo everybody can look at, and have both posted our arguments. Maybe we should just start a new thread to get this to a decision. But I don't want to force a

Re: [ASJS] Update

2013-01-27 Thread Alex Harui
Did you end up with a set of scripts as described in [1]? https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/FlexJS+Status You will need to have the frameworks/js folder available to the html file, as well as the goog and third_party folders from the google libraries. The compiler does not

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Yes, the one in 'intermediate' is. The one in 'release' is the 'intermediate' version, but run through the Closure Compiler. EdB On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Michael Schmalle apa...@teotigraphix.com wrote: Is Example.js a generated cross compile? Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
I think I can now pinpoint the difference to RequireJS: It is in the existence of deps.js. deps.js says it's generated, and seems to be the extracted dependencies of all the other JS files, right? Aha, so this is how the necessary scripts get loaded in advance. And this is where you need the

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Well the PMC would not veto commits. It would veto the notion o including something in the SDK that wasn't agreed upon via consensus. Just to be clear. :) -omar On Sunday, January 27, 2013, Erik de Bruin wrote: But I don't want to force a decision right now; The beauty of the Apache Way

Re: [Falcon][Discuss] Modularity, extensibility and configurability of the Falcon compiler framework

2013-01-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Roland, Me likey. Some comments and suggestions inline: I think it might make more sense to create a single point of entry for all types of compilation. Let's call this point of entry FLEXC (credit: Michael Schmalle). Wouldn't it be cleaner to use this FLEXC compiler as a sort of factory

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Take a chill pill. ;) Really? Nice! I prefer contributing over chillin, thank you. EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33366) The candidate input method can not follow

2013-01-27 Thread zy (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33366?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13563863#comment-13563863 ] zy commented on FLEX-33366: --- Thank you for your help.I do a test on another win7 use IE9。It is

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Really. On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Take a chill pill. ;) Really? Nice! I prefer contributing over chillin, thank you. EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Frank Wienberg
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: I think I can now pinpoint the difference to RequireJS: It is in the existence of deps.js. deps.js says it's generated, and seems to be the extracted dependencies of all the other JS files, right? Aha, so this is

[PR] Flex != Flash

2013-01-27 Thread Harbs
You guys might enjoy my blog post: http://printui.com/blog/2013/01/flex-flash/ If you do, feel free to pass it on… ;-) Harbs

Re: [PR] Flex != Flash

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Schmalle
Where did you get 1992? I think Gordon meant 2002 on his bio, someone correct me if I am wrong. Mike Quoting Harbs harbs.li...@gmail.com: You guys might enjoy my blog post: http://printui.com/blog/2013/01/flex-flash/ If you do, feel free to pass it on? ;-) Harbs -- Michael Schmalle -

Re: [PR] Flex != Flash

2013-01-27 Thread Harbs
I copied it from his bio. If it was a typo, I'll correct it. Yeah. 1992 sounds like a very long time ago… On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: Where did you get 1992? I think Gordon meant 2002 on his bio, someone correct me if I am wrong. Mike Quoting Harbs

Re: [PR] Flex != Flash

2013-01-27 Thread Michael Schmalle
I would change it now just to be safe so you don't flamed. Very nice article Harbs, I think you caught exactly what I have been saying about what I envision the compiler turning into. My work on the compilers etc aims at taking the power of a language and pointing it in the direction we

Re: [PR] Flex != Flash

2013-01-27 Thread Harbs
Yeah. Changed already… ;-) Thanks. I hope the article helps some more people get it. You guys have been doing awesome work! On Jan 28, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Michael Schmalle wrote: I would change it now just to be safe so you don't flamed. Very nice article Harbs, I think you caught exactly

RE: [PR] Flex != Flash

2013-01-27 Thread Flex
Nice Article! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] Verzonden: zondag 27 januari 2013 23:16 Aan: dev@flex.apache.org Onderwerp: Re: [PR] Flex != Flash Yeah. Changed already. ;-) Thanks. I hope the article helps some more people get it. You guys have been

Re: ASJS question - MXML vs. AS

2013-01-27 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/27/13 7:18 PM, Om bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, I think you would be the best person to answer this. What would be the Actionscript equivalent of this mxml file: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/flex/asjs/branches/develop/examples/FlexJSTest_ag ain/FlexJSTest.mxml?view=markup I

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33366) The candidate input method can not follow

2013-01-27 Thread Alex Harui (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33366?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13564058#comment-13564058 ] Alex Harui commented on FLEX-33366: --- I still cannot reproduce this problem. Please go

Re: ASJS question - MXML vs. AS

2013-01-27 Thread Om
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/27/13 7:18 PM, Om bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, I think you would be the best person to answer this. What would be the Actionscript equivalent of this mxml file:

RE: [PR] Flex != Flash

2013-01-27 Thread Sugan Naicker
Hi, Excellent article! Thanks to the team for keeping the Flex flame burning. Rgs, Sugan Naicker South Africa -Original Message- From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 January 2013 12:59 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [PR] Flex != Flash You guys might enjoy my blog

Re: ASJS question - MXML vs. AS

2013-01-27 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/27/13 10:50 PM, Om bigosma...@gmail.com wrote: But they dont seem to match up. Can you please respond with how the mxml would look when redone as a pure actionscript file? There are two possible answers to this question. One is for the question: what would the generated AS for the

Re: [ASJS] Integration with existing JS libraries and components

2013-01-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, entire library + application. My example was that you change a single file, but change it in a way that you add a dependency. Without re-generating deps.js, base.js could not know in advance that the newly We're talking AS - JS cross compilation. So changing one file would be changing one