Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
I certainly keep an eye on the CI servers, and finally sorted out access the the flex.a.o CMS from work, so can catch them some of the time. Hopefully all you'll ever see is an email saying "fixed already", Tom On 18/12/14 16:48, Alex Harui wrote: If someone wants to help keep the MD5s up-to-d

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
/14, 6:59 AM, "Neil Madsen" wrote: >After the release should be fine. Less moving targets at that point. > >-Original Message- >From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:t...@extravision.com] >Sent: December-18-14 4:05 AM >To: dev@flex.apache.org >Subject: Re: [INSTAL

RE: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-18 Thread Neil Madsen
After the release should be fine. Less moving targets at that point. -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:t...@extravision.com] Sent: December-18-14 4:05 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional I think there is enough goi

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-18 Thread Tom Chiverton
I think there is enough going on already, and there's no urgent need ? Tom On 16/12/14 19:31, Alex Harui wrote: OK, I’m willing to see a small charge, I just don’t want to get hit with a big bill if we do become popular. Anyway, do you want us to take on switching to this for 4.14 or after?

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/16/14, 10:46 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >>>A few tiny downloads (that's all we're really talking about, right?) >>>won't break break the (credits) bank. >> >> I don’t think it is a “few”, it is at least two per install times >>however >> many installs per month. If Flex becomes wildly po

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
>>A few tiny downloads (that's all we're really talking about, right?) >>won't break break the (credits) bank. > > I don’t think it is a “few”, it is at least two per install times however > many installs per month. If Flex becomes wildly popular, will I end up > paying? The Azure T&C’s also said

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/16/14, 9:52 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >A few tiny downloads (that's all we're really talking about, right?) >won't break break the (credits) bank. I don’t think it is a “few”, it is at least two per install times however many installs per month. If Flex becomes wildly popular, will I

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
> I’m just wondering if there are restrictions on using the free Azure > instance for this kind of thing and how much bandwidth it will turn out to > be. If I could find another server to store the MD5s on that would be > preferred. The Azure instances are not free. You just pay for them with the

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/16/14, 8:50 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote: >On Dec 16, 2014 8:43 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >> >> IMO, there are two issues: >> >> 1) Adobe keeps updating the downloads and we get out of sync and there >>are >> failures until we get synced up >> 2) Folks using the installer seem to get ba

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Dec 16, 2014 8:43 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > IMO, there are two issues: > > 1) Adobe keeps updating the downloads and we get out of sync and there are > failures until we get synced up > 2) Folks using the installer seem to get bad downloads more often than > using Ant/Browser. > > For 1), I’v

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Alex Harui
IMO, there are two issues: 1) Adobe keeps updating the downloads and we get out of sync and there are failures until we get synced up 2) Folks using the installer seem to get bad downloads more often than using Ant/Browser. For 1), I’ve been pondering having MD5 checker leave .md5 files on the CI

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > ...Can't we make MD5 checking optional in the installer?... >From a general Apache point of view, encouraging people to download binaries without verifying them is very bad. Giving people the option to shoot themselves in the foot can

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
The trouble being that sometimes the Apache mirrors are screwed, and the only way to tell is to check the checksums (or explode when the files are unpacked, if you get lucky). Tom On 16/12/14 16:10, Erik de Bruin wrote: Hi, Can't we make MD5 checking optional in the installer? Even downloads

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Mihai Chira
I think we should keep it at least as a warning. Twice when the md5 check failed on the sdk the sdk hadn't downloaded completely (though the installer thought it had), so it can still be a useful debugging tool. On 16 December 2014 at 16:10, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Hi, > > Can't we make MD5 checki

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/16/14, 8:10 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >Hi, > >Can't we make MD5 checking optional in the installer? Even downloads >from Apache's website don't force you to check the MD5 sigs of a >download, and it's causing all kinds of problems with downloads >through the installer. If you get a bad

Re: [INSTALLER] can't we make MD5 checking optional

2014-12-16 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > > Hi, > > Can't we make MD5 checking optional in the installer? Even downloads > from Apache's website don't force you to check the MD5 sigs of a > download, and it's causing all kinds of problems with downloads > through the installer. > > +