Re: Royale website and domain registration

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:

How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?

EdB


+1




On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui 
wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the domain
> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the squatters.
> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>
> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>
> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle on
> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the rule.
>
> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are non-profit.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> 
> wrote:
>
> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game
> >we
> >should not play...
> >
> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> >
> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> >options.
> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> >"apacheroyale.com"
> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> >
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >
> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> >>
> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomains
> .
> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
> >>eserved=0
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
> >> >
> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.
> >>I
> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> >> surprised
> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
> >> have
> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
> >> "as"
> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> >> >
> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too,
> >>we
> >> > don't have to choose one.
> >> >
> >> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in
> some
> >> way
> >> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> >> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > -Alex
> >> >
> >> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >> Rovira"
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Thanks Dany,
> >> > >
> >> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine
> >>with
> >> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> >> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a
> >>thread
> >> > >for
> >> > >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I
suppose
> >> that
> >> > >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or
> >> something
> >> > >like that.
> >> > >
> >> > >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people
> >>like
> >> it
> >> > >as you.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
> >> > >
> >> > >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> >> > >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some
> >> money.
> >> > >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Dany
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice to
have that domain no matter what.

-Alex

On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
 wrote:

>On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:
>
>How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>
>EdB
>
>
>+1
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Carlos,
>>
>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
>>domain
>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>squatters.
>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>
>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>
>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
>>on
>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
>>rule.
>>
>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>>non-profit.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>>Rovira"
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
>>end
>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
>>game
>> >we
>> >should not play...
>> >
>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
>>".app"
>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>> >
>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
>> >options.
>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>> >"apacheroyale.com"
>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>> >
>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [1]
>> 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomain
s
>> .
>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
>> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
>> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
>> >>eserved=0
>> >> >
>> >> > -Original Message-
>> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain
>>registration
>> >> >
>> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at
>>$199.
>> >>I
>> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
>> >> surprised
>> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you
>>may
>> >> have
>> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but
>>the
>> >> "as"
>> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>> >> >
>> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs
>>too,
>> >>we
>> >> > don't have to choose one.
>> >> >
>> >> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in
>> some
>> >> way
>> >> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
>> >> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > -Alex
>> >> >
>> >> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>> >> Rovira"
>> >> > >carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >Thanks Dany,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's
>>fine
>> >>with
>> >> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
>> >> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a
>> >>thread
>> >> > >for
>> >> > >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I
>suppose
>> >> that
>> >> > >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or
>> >> something
>> >> > >like that.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people
>> >>like
>> >> it
>> >> > >as you.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui 
wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the domain
> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the squatters.
> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>
> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>
> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle on
> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the rule.
>
> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are non-profit.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> 
> wrote:
>
> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game
> >we
> >should not play...
> >
> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> >
> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> >options.
> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> >"apacheroyale.com"
> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> >
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >
> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> >>
> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomains
> .
> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
> >>eserved=0
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
> >> >
> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.
> >>I
> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> >> surprised
> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
> >> have
> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
> >> "as"
> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> >> >
> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too,
> >>we
> >> > don't have to choose one.
> >> >
> >> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in
> some
> >> way
> >> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> >> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > -Alex
> >> >
> >> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >> Rovira"
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Thanks Dany,
> >> > >
> >> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine
> >>with
> >> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> >> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a
> >>thread
> >> > >for
> >> > >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose
> >> that
> >> > >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or
> >> something
> >> > >like that.
> >> > >
> >> > >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people
> >>like
> >> it
> >> > >as you.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
> >> > >
> >> > >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> >> > >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some
> >> money.
> >> > >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Dany
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I'm not good in case of domain 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin  wrote:

> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
> gladly donate :-)
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
>>
>> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>>
>> > 'royale.as' is available here:
>> >
>> > https://www.nic.as/
>> >
>> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
>> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
>> the
>> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Carlos,
>> > >
>> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
>> > > another year it could cost same ?
>> > >
>> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
>> :) I
>> > > like it.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Piotr
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>> > >:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Erik,
>> > > >
>> > > > This is my order of preference:
>> > > >
>> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we
>> > must
>> > > > give up with that :(
>> > > >
>> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
>> meaning. I
>> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
>> English
>> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
>> problematic
>> > to
>> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
>> > > > Americana)
>> > > >
>> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
>> > names)
>> > > > that could fit our purposes:
>> > > >
>> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
>> will
>> > > build
>> > > > Apps ;)
>> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
>> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
>> > > something
>> > > > more related to us
>> > > >
>> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
>> > > > * royale.inc
>> > > > * royale.wow
>> > > > * royale.now
>> > > > * royale.art
>> > > >
>> > > > What do you think?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki > >:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Erik,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
>> > > better.
>> > > > :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Piotr
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding
>> > > seems
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
>> images
>> > of
>> > > > > rather
>> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
>> exotic
>> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
>> > > > > royalesdk.org
>> > > > > > ,
>> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > EdB
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
>> e...@ixsoftware.nl
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > EdB
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
>> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to
>> show
>> > in
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > >> mailing list.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't
>> > know
>> > > > if
>> > > > > > you
>> > > > > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So,
>> could
>> > you
>> > > > > help
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is
>> possible.
>> > As
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > >> domain
>> > > > > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and
>> > talk
>> > > > if
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > > >> in
>> > > > > > >> position to sell it.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Dany Dhondt]

Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money. It’s 
the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!

Dany





> Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> 
> I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is registered by
> someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my domain
> operator and I see price about 30$.
> 
> Piotr
> 
> 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> 
>> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>> 
>> EdB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
>>> gladly donate :-)
>>> 
>>> EdB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
 If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
 
 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
 
> 'royale.as' is available here:
> 
> https://www.nic.as/
> 
> But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
 the
> .io which is way cooler ;-)
> 
> EdB
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Carlos,
>> 
>> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
>> for
>> another year it could cost same ?
>> 
>> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
 :) I
>> like it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Piotr
>> 
>> 
>> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
 carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>> :
>> 
>>> Hi Erik,
>>> 
>>> This is my order of preference:
>>> 
>>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
>> we
> must
>>> give up with that :(
>>> 
>>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
 meaning. I
>>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
 English
>>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
 problematic
> to
>>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
>> (Samoa
>>> Americana)
>>> 
>>> Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> names)
>>> that could fit our purposes:
>>> 
>>> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
 will
>> build
>>> Apps ;)
>>> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
>>> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
>> something
>>> more related to us
>>> 
>>> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
>>> * royale.inc
>>> * royale.wow
>>> * royale.now
>>> * royale.art
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> :
>>> 
 Erik,
 
 If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
>> better.
>>> :)
 
 Piotr
 
 On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
 
> OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
>> bidding
>> seems
>>> to
> start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
>> ;-))
> 
> I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
 images
> of
 rather
> majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> 
> I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
 exotic
> extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
 royalesdk.org
> ,
> royaleframework.net, etc.)
> 
> EdB
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
 e...@ixsoftware.nl
>> 
 wrote:
> 
>> I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
>> 
>> EdB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
 carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Erik,
>>> 
>>> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain
>> here:
>>> 
>>> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
>>> 
>>> I will working privately inside until I have something to
 show
> in
>>> the
>>> mailing list.
>>> 
>>> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
>>> 
>>> You commented that you can register it for 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Thanks Dany,

if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread for
it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
like that.

The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
as you.


2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :

> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
>
> Dany
>
>
>
>
>
> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> >
> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> registered by
> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my domain
> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >
> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> >>
> >> EdB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
> I'll
> >>> gladly donate :-)
> >>>
> >>> EdB
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
> 
>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> 
> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >
> > https://www.nic.as/
> >
> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
> for
>  the
> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Carlos,
> >>
> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
> >> for
> >> another year it could cost same ?
> >>
> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
>  :) I
> >> like it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Piotr
> >>
> >>
> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> :
> >>
> >>> Hi Erik,
> >>>
> >>> This is my order of preference:
> >>>
> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
> >> we
> > must
> >>> give up with that :(
> >>>
> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
>  meaning. I
> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
>  English
> >>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
>  problematic
> > to
> >>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> >> (Samoa
> >>> Americana)
> >>>
> >>> Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> > names)
> >>> that could fit our purposes:
> >>>
> >>> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
>  will
> >> build
> >>> Apps ;)
> >>> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> >>> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> >> something
> >>> more related to us
> >>>
> >>> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> >>> * royale.inc
> >>> * royale.wow
> >>> * royale.now
> >>> * royale.art
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> > :
> >>>
>  Erik,
> 
>  If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> >> better.
> >>> :)
> 
>  Piotr
> 
>  On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> > wrote:
> 
> > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
> >> bidding
> >> seems
> >>> to
> > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
> >> ;-))
> >
> > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
>  images
> > of
>  rather
> > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >
> > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
>  exotic
> > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
>  royalesdk.org
> > ,
> > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
gladly donate :-)

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki 
wrote:

> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
>
> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>
> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >
> > https://www.nic.as/
> >
> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
> the
> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Carlos,
> > >
> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
> > > another year it could cost same ?
> > >
> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
> :) I
> > > like it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> > >:
> > >
> > > > Hi Erik,
> > > >
> > > > This is my order of preference:
> > > >
> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we
> > must
> > > > give up with that :(
> > > >
> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> meaning. I
> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> problematic
> > to
> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
> > > > Americana)
> > > >
> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> > names)
> > > > that could fit our purposes:
> > > >
> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will
> > > build
> > > > Apps ;)
> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> > > something
> > > > more related to us
> > > >
> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> > > > * royale.inc
> > > > * royale.wow
> > > > * royale.now
> > > > * royale.art
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki  >:
> > > >
> > > > > Erik,
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> > > better.
> > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding
> > > seems
> > > > to
> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images
> > of
> > > > > rather
> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
> exotic
> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> > > > > royalesdk.org
> > > > > > ,
> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > EdB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> e...@ixsoftware.nl
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > EdB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> mailing list.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't
> > know
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could
> > you
> > > > > help
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible.
> > As
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> domain
> > > > > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and
> > talk
> > > > if
> > > > > is
> > > > > > >> in
> > > > > > >> position to sell it.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as"
> > > > termination
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to
> > > Samoa
> > > > > > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > > > > > strange...or
> > > > > > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others
> > > 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Let's wait what do others think about donating something.

I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is registered by
someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my domain
operator and I see price about 30$.

Piotr

2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :

> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
>
> > We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
> > gladly donate :-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
> >>
> >> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >>
> >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.nic.as/
> >> >
> >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
> >> the
> >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Carlos,
> >> > >
> >> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
> for
> >> > > another year it could cost same ?
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
> >> :) I
> >> > > like it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Piotr
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> > >:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Erik,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is my order of preference:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
> we
> >> > must
> >> > > > give up with that :(
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> >> meaning. I
> >> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
> >> English
> >> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> >> problematic
> >> > to
> >> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> (Samoa
> >> > > > Americana)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> >> > names)
> >> > > > that could fit our purposes:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
> >> will
> >> > > build
> >> > > > Apps ;)
> >> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> >> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> >> > > something
> >> > > > more related to us
> >> > > >
> >> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> >> > > > * royale.inc
> >> > > > * royale.wow
> >> > > > * royale.now
> >> > > > * royale.art
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you think?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Erik,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> >> > > better.
> >> > > > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Piotr
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
> bidding
> >> > > seems
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
> ;-))
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
> >> images
> >> > of
> >> > > > > rather
> >> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
> >> exotic
> >> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> >> > > > > royalesdk.org
> >> > > > > > ,
> >> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> >> e...@ixsoftware.nl
> >> > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain
> here:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to
> >> show
> >> > in
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > >> mailing list.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> You 

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Mark,

it seems Royale.it is not available

2017-09-22 11:43 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J :

> Royale.IT?
>
>
> -Mark K
>



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RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Erik,

for me insert the "4" is not recommended since complicates too much the
domain. And "royale.rocks" is better, but I think other options are more
sync with our mission (.web, .app, )



2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :

> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
>
> > We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which I'll
> > gladly donate :-)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io. :)
> >>
> >> 2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >>
> >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.nic.as/
> >> >
> >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
> >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for
> >> the
> >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Carlos,
> >> > >
> >> > > I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
> for
> >> > > another year it could cost same ?
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad
> >> :) I
> >> > > like it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Piotr
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> > >:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Erik,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is my order of preference:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
> we
> >> > must
> >> > > > give up with that :(
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> >> meaning. I
> >> > > > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
> >> English
> >> > > > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> >> problematic
> >> > to
> >> > > > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> (Samoa
> >> > > > Americana)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Other top level options available (before going with more complex
> >> > names)
> >> > > > that could fit our purposes:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
> >> will
> >> > > build
> >> > > > Apps ;)
> >> > > > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> >> > > > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> >> > > something
> >> > > > more related to us
> >> > > >
> >> > > > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> >> > > > * royale.inc
> >> > > > * royale.wow
> >> > > > * royale.now
> >> > > > * royale.art
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you think?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Erik,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> >> > > better.
> >> > > > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Piotr
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the
> bidding
> >> > > seems
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be
> ;-))
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures
> >> images
> >> > of
> >> > > > > rather
> >> > > > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with
> >> exotic
> >> > > > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> >> > > > > royalesdk.org
> >> > > > > > ,
> >> > > > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> >> e...@ixsoftware.nl
> >> > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > EdB
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> Hi Erik,
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain
> here:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to
> >> show
> >> > in
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > >> mailing list.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project
> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Erik,

If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even better. :)

Piotr

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:

> OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding seems to
> start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
>
> I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of rather
> majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
>
> I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name: royalesdk.org
> ,
> royaleframework.net, etc.)
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin  wrote:
>
> > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Erik,
> >>
> >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> >>
> >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> >>
> >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in the
> >> mailing list.
> >>
> >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> >>
> >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know if
> you
> >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you help
> in
> >> that task? It would be of great help.
> >>
> >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As the
> >> domain
> >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk if is
> >> in
> >> position to sell it.
> >>
> >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as" termination
> for
> >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to Samoa
> >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> strange...or
> >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others could
> throw
> >> some light on this...
> >>
> >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> >> "royale"
> >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> suffixes.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Erik,

This is my order of preference:

- royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we must
give up with that :(

- royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative meaning. I
don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
language could see some problems. Aside from that could be problematic to
have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
Americana)

Other top level options available (before going with more complex names)
that could fit our purposes:

* royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will build
Apps ;)
* royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
* royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development", something
more related to us

maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
* royale.inc
* royale.wow
* royale.now
* royale.art

What do you think?



2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :

> Erik,
>
> If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even better. :)
>
> Piotr
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:
>
> > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding seems to
> > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> >
> > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of
> rather
> > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> >
> > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> royalesdk.org
> > ,
> > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > >
> > > EdB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Erik,
> > >>
> > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > >>
> > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > >>
> > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in the
> > >> mailing list.
> > >>
> > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > >>
> > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know if
> > you
> > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you
> help
> > in
> > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > >>
> > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As the
> > >> domain
> > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk if
> is
> > >> in
> > >> position to sell it.
> > >>
> > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as" termination
> > for
> > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to Samoa
> > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > strange...or
> > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others could
> > throw
> > >> some light on this...
> > >>
> > >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> > >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> > >> "royale"
> > >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> > suffixes.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >
> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >
> > > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ix Multimedia Software
> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> >
>



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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Carlos,

I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
another year it could cost same ?

+1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad :) I
like it.

Thanks,
Piotr


2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :

> Hi Erik,
>
> This is my order of preference:
>
> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we must
> give up with that :(
>
> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative meaning. I
> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be problematic to
> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
> Americana)
>
> Other top level options available (before going with more complex names)
> that could fit our purposes:
>
> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will build
> Apps ;)
> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development", something
> more related to us
>
> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> * royale.inc
> * royale.wow
> * royale.now
> * royale.art
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
>
> > Erik,
> >
> > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even better.
> :)
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:
> >
> > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding seems
> to
> > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> > >
> > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of
> > rather
> > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> > >
> > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> > royalesdk.org
> > > ,
> > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> > >
> > > EdB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > > >
> > > > EdB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Erik,
> > > >>
> > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > > >>
> > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in
> the
> > > >> mailing list.
> > > >>
> > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > > >>
> > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know
> if
> > > you
> > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you
> > help
> > > in
> > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > > >>
> > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As
> the
> > > >> domain
> > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk
> if
> > is
> > > >> in
> > > >> position to sell it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as"
> termination
> > > for
> > > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to Samoa
> > > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > > strange...or
> > > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others could
> > > throw
> > > >> some light on this...
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> > > >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> > > >> "royale"
> > > >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> > > suffixes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > >
> > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > >
> > > > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > >
> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > >
> > > T. 06-51952295
> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> 
>
> Carlos Rovira
>
> Director General
>
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Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Erik de Bruin]

'royale.as' is available here:

https://www.nic.as/

But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require some
crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go for the
.io which is way cooler ;-)

EdB



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki 
wrote:

> Carlos,
>
> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension for
> another year it could cost same ?
>
> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything bad :) I
> like it.
>
> Thanks,
> Piotr
>
>
> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :
>
> > Hi Erik,
> >
> > This is my order of preference:
> >
> > - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so we must
> > give up with that :(
> >
> > - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative meaning. I
> > don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in English
> > language could see some problems. Aside from that could be problematic to
> > have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country? (Samoa
> > Americana)
> >
> > Other top level options available (before going with more complex names)
> > that could fit our purposes:
> >
> > * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people will
> build
> > Apps ;)
> > * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
> > * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
> something
> > more related to us
> >
> > maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
> > * royale.inc
> > * royale.wow
> > * royale.now
> > * royale.art
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-09-22 9:30 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
> >
> > > Erik,
> > >
> > > If it is connected (royale.as) to something majestic it is even
> better.
> > :)
> > >
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 01:36 Erik de Bruin  wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, couldn't resist: royale.io is up for offer, but the bidding
> seems
> > to
> > > > start at $199 (www.namecheap.com; how ironic a name can be ;-))
> > > >
> > > > I personally don't like royale.as, as to me that conjures images of
> > > rather
> > > > majestic, well endowed hindquarters.
> > > >
> > > > I really think the only available TLDs will be the ones with exotic
> > > > extensions (.group, .zone, etc.) or where we 'pad' the name:
> > > royalesdk.org
> > > > ,
> > > > royaleframework.net, etc.)
> > > >
> > > > EdB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'll give it a look my tomorrow morning.
> > > > >
> > > > > EdB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Erik,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I just have the WP installation running as a subdomain here:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I will working privately inside until I have something to show in
> > the
> > > > >> mailing list.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So now I think is time to get a cool domain :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You commented that you can register it for the project (don't know
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > >> need to talk first with trademarks or someone else). So, could you
> > > help
> > > > in
> > > > >> that task? It would be of great help.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As Alex said, we could target for "royale.io" if is possible. As
> > the
> > > > >> domain
> > > > >> is taken by someone, I don't know how to locate the owner and talk
> > if
> > > is
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> position to sell it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Another option Alex said is "royale.as". I like the ".as"
> > termination
> > > > for
> > > > >> the action script implications, but it seems to be related to
> Samoa
> > > > >> Americana or even to Asturias (here in Spain), so it could be
> > > > strange...or
> > > > >> not...really I don't know if would be appropiate. Maybe others
> could
> > > > throw
> > > > >> some light on this...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think we should delay other options like "apacheroyale." or
> > > > >> "royaleframework.", if we can't get that kind of domains with
> > > > >> "royale"
> > > > >> alone and ".io" or ".as" or other options folks could propose as
> > > > suffixes.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > > >
> > > > > T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> > > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ix Multimedia Software
> > > >
> > > > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > > > 3521 VB Utrecht
> > > >
> > > > T. 06-51952295
> > > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > 
> >
> > Carlos Rovira
> >
> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

It would be more likely to work if the Domain were purchased and then donated 
to the ASF with sufficient funds to renew it for N years.

Regards,
Dave

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> On Sep 22, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:
> 
> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it possible for
> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That might
> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that domain if
> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there have been
> problems like that for other projects.
> 
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
> 
>> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:
>> 
>> I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
>> royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice to
>> have that domain no matter what.
>> 
>> -Alex
>> 
>> On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>> 
>>> EdB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Carlos,
 
 I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
 domain
 for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
 squatters.
 It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch
 of
 similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
 
 I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
 apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
 probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
 
 I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
 And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
 on
 at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
 third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
 rule.
 
 IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
 something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
 non-profit.
 
 My 2 cents,
 -Alex
 
 On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
 Rovira"
 
 wrote:
 
> I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
 end
> paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
 game
> we
> should not play...
> 
> I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
 ".app"
> (if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> 
> We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> options.
> For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> "apacheroyale.com"
> (or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
 considering
> adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> 
>> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>> 
>>> RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1]
 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
>> n
>> s
 .
>> google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
 7C01%7C%7C0702061
>> 75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
 cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
>> 6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
>> eserved=0
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain
 registration
>>> 
>>> AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at
 $199.
>> I
>>> haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
>> surprised
>>> if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you
 may
>> have
>>> to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>>> 
>>> Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but
 the
>> "as"
>>> was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>>> 
>>> Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs
 too,
>> we
>>> don't have to choose one.
>>> 
>>> My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in
 some
>> way
>>> $100 better than royale.as which 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it possible for
Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That might
satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that domain if
Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there have been
problems like that for other projects.

Thoughts?
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:

>I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
>royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice to
>have that domain no matter what.
>
>-Alex
>
>On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:
>>
>>How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
>>
>>EdB
>>
>>
>>+1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui 
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>
>>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
>>>domain
>>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
>>>squatters.
>>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch
>>>of
>>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
>>>
>>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
>>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
>>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
>>>
>>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
>>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
>>>on
>>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
>>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
>>>rule.
>>>
>>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
>>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
>>>non-profit.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents,
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>>>Rovira"
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
>>>end
>>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
>>>game
>>> >we
>>> >should not play...
>>> >
>>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
>>>".app"
>>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>>> >
>>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
>>> >options.
>>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>>> >"apacheroyale.com"
>>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
>>>considering
>>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>>> >
>>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > [1]
>>> 
>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
>n
>s
>>> .
>>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
>>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
>>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
>>> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
>>> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
>>> >>eserved=0
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -Original Message-
>>> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
>>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
>>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain
>>>registration
>>> >> >
>>> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at
>>>$199.
>>> >>I
>>> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
>>> >> surprised
>>> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you
>>>may
>>> >> have
>>> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but
>>>the
>>> >> "as"
>>> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs
>>>too,
>>> >>we
>>> >> > don't have to choose one.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in
>>> some
>>> >> way
>>> >> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than
>>>say,
>>> >> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > -Alex
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>>> >> Rovira"
>>> >> > >>carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >Thanks Dany,
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Alex Harui 
wrote:

> Initial response from trademarks was not encouraging.  Is it possible for
> Erik to "own" the domain and redirect it to Carlos's server?  That might
> satisfy Trademarks that we could rescind Carlos's use of that domain if
> Carlos stopped conforming to trademark policy.  Apparently there have been
> problems like that for other projects.
>

That is the best way.  We buy the cool sounding domains and simply redirect
them to royale.apache.org.  There are hosting providers who charge $0 for
just hosting.  We will just need to pay for the domain re-registration
every year.

Thanks,
Om


>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 3:04 PM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:
>
> >I will verify with Trademarks@.  At the worst it will have to redirect to
> >royale.apache.org, so I don't think you have to wait.  It would be nice
> to
> >have that domain no matter what.
> >
> >-Alex
> >
> >On 9/22/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Sep 22, 2017 2:22 PM, "Erik de Bruin"  wrote:
> >>
> >>How about I grab 'royalesdk.org' and we take it from there?
> >>
> >>EdB
> >>
> >>
> >>+1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Alex Harui 
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>
> >>> I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the
> >>>domain
> >>> for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the
> >>>squatters.
> >>> It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch
> >>>of
> >>> similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.
> >>>
> >>> I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
> >>> apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
> >>> probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
> >>> And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle
> >>>on
> >>> at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
> >>> third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the
> >>>rule.
> >>>
> >>> IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
> >>> something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are
> >>>non-profit.
> >>>
> >>> My 2 cents,
> >>> -Alex
> >>>
> >>> On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >>>Rovira"
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could
> >>>end
> >>> >paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a
> >>>game
> >>> >we
> >>> >should not play...
> >>> >
> >>> >I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or
> >>>".app"
> >>> >(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
> >>> >
> >>> >We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
> >>> >options.
> >>> >For composed names, I think people would end trying first
> >>> >"apacheroyale.com"
> >>> >(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before
> >>>considering
> >>> >adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >>> >
> >>> >> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> >>> >> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > [1]
> >>>
> >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fdomai
> >n
> >s
> >>> .
> >>> >>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%
> >>> 7C01%7C%7C0702061
> >>> >>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> >>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
> >>> >>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%
> >>> 2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
> >>> >>eserved=0
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > -Original Message-
> >>> >> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> >>> >> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> >>> >> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>> >> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain
> >>>registration
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at
> >>>$199.
> >>> >>I
> >>> >> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> >>> >> surprised
> >>> >> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you
> >>>may
> >>> >> have
> >>> >> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but
> >>>the
> >>> >> "as"
> >>> >> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs
> >>>too,
> 

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

[Tom Chiverton]

Done


On 20/09/17 18:29, Alex Harui wrote:

OK, well it doesn't affect the outcome, but Tom, can you forward your vote
to dev@ so the archives match the totals?

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

[Tom Chiverton]

On 18/09/17 12:55, Tom Chiverton wrote:


Braid
Bead
Strand

Tom

Re: Welcome Tom Chiverton as new Apache Flex PMC Chair

[Tom Chiverton]

Thanks everyone.

Filling in a report every few months is not much "premier" :-)

Tom


On 21/09/17 22:07, Carlos Rovira wrote:

Congrats Tom!

Thanks again for taking the position and congrats on your new premiered
role! :)

2017-09-21 18:37 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui :


Hi Folks,

At yesterday's board meeting, the Apache Software Foundation Board of
Directors approved Tom Chiverton as the new PMC Chair for Apache Flex.
Tom's new title is VP Apache Flex.  Tom is taking over for me.

I think it may be a few more days before the transition is complete.  The
board secretary and Infrastructure team have to update dome files and
databases and the automated tools that normally do that have had problems.

Congratulations Tom!  And thanks again for volunteering to chair this
project.

-Alex

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
to still pay some other place to register the domain.

Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.

Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
don't have to choose one.

My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
$100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?

Thanks,
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
 wrote:

>Thanks Dany,
>
>if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
>me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
>Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
>for
>it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
>the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
>like that.
>
>The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
>as you.
>
>
>2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
>
>> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
>> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
>> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
>>
>> Dany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
>> >
>> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
>> registered by
>> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
>>domain
>> > operator and I see price about 30$.
>> >
>> > Piotr
>> >
>> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>> >
>> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>> >>
>> >> EdB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
>> I'll
>> >>> gladly donate :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> EdB
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
>>:)
>> 
>>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>> 
>> > 'royale.as' is available here:
>> >
>> > 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic.
>>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a47029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
>>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
>>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
>> >
>> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
>>some
>> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
>> for
>>  the
>> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Carlos,
>> >>
>> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
>> >> for
>> >> another year it could cost same ?
>> >>
>> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything
>>bad
>>  :) I
>> >> like it.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Piotr
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Erik,
>> >>>
>> >>> This is my order of preference:
>> >>>
>> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
>> >> we
>> > must
>> >>> give up with that :(
>> >>>
>> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
>>  meaning. I
>> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
>>  English
>> >>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
>>  problematic
>> > to
>> >>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
>> >> (Samoa
>> >>> Americana)
>> >>>
>> >>> Other top level options available (before going with more
>>complex
>> > names)
>> >>> that could fit our purposes:
>> >>>
>> >>> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
>>  will
>> >> build
>> >>> Apps ;)
>> >>> * royale.web   <-- pretty generic, isn't it?
>> >>> * royale.dev<-- dev, I assume this stands for "development",
>> >> something
>> >>> more related to us
>> >>>
>> >>> maybe still valid, but not as good as the other ones?:
>> >>> * 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

I vote for royale.io.  I can put in at least $100 towards the purchase of
the domain.

Others are free to chip in as much as they would like.

Thanks,
Om

On Sep 22, 2017 8:35 AM, "Alex Harui"  wrote:

> AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
> haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
> if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
> to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>
> Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
> was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>
> Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
> don't have to choose one.
>
> My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
> $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> 
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks Dany,
> >
> >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
> >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
> >for
> >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
> >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
> >like that.
> >
> >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
> >as you.
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
> >
> >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
> >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> >>
> >> Dany
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >> >
> >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> >> registered by
> >> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
> >>domain
> >> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> >> >
> >> > Piotr
> >> >
> >> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >> >
> >> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> >> >>
> >> >> EdB
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
> >> I'll
> >> >>> gladly donate :-)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> EdB
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
> >>:)
> >> 
> >>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >> 
> >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic
> .
> >>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a4
> 7029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
> >>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%
> 2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
> >>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
> >> >
> >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
> >>some
> >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
> >> for
> >>  the
> >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Carlos,
> >> >>
> >> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for
> extension
> >> >> for
> >> >> another year it could cost same ?
> >> >>
> >> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything
> >>bad
> >>  :) I
> >> >> like it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Piotr
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> >> :
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi Erik,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is my order of preference:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive,
> so
> >> >> we
> >> > must
> >> >>> give up with that :(
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> >>  meaning. I
> >> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
> >>  English
> >> >>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
> >>  problematic
> >> > to
> >> >>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
> >> >> (Samoa
> >> >>> Americana)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Alex Harui]

Hi Carlos,

I agree that is a game we should not play.  Even if we can get the domain
for $200, I still don't like putting money in the hands of the squatters.
It would not surprise me if they then went out and registered a bunch of
similar domains and tried to hit us up for those as well.

I doubt Apache Trademarks would allow a third party to use
apacheroyale..  We might want to grab that domain, but it would
probably have to point directly to royale.a.o.

I don't think royale.as is taken, the registration fee is just higher.
And again, we can grab more than one domain.  I would like us to settle on
at least one so we can make sure Apache Trademarks will ok having a
third-party use that domain.  It is going to be an exception to the rule.

IMO, we should not use .com.  We might want to grab it and point to
something else, but our main pages should reflect that we are non-profit.

My 2 cents,
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 10:23 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
 wrote:

>I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
>paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game
>we
>should not play...
>
>I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
>(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).
>
>We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed
>options.
>For composed names, I think people would end trying first
>"apacheroyale.com"
>(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
>adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.
>
>
>
>2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>
>> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
>> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>>
>> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] 
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdomains.
>>google.com%2Fregistrar%3Fs%3Droyalsdk%26hl%3Den=02%7C01%7C%7C0702061
>>75b3e4fda913f08d501dec329%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C63
>>6416978626290869=ZQF2DIgIJyrixp4i2u5k%2F3ynhGB1JQHd753Wwa0Hy8s%3D
>>eserved=0
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
>> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
>> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
>> >
>> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.
>>I
>> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
>> surprised
>> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
>> have
>> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>> >
>> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
>> "as"
>> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>> >
>> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too,
>>we
>> > don't have to choose one.
>> >
>> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some
>> way
>> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
>> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > -Alex
>> >
>> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
>> Rovira"
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >Thanks Dany,
>> > >
>> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine
>>with
>> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
>> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a
>>thread
>> > >for
>> > >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose
>> that
>> > >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or
>> something
>> > >like that.
>> > >
>> > >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people
>>like
>> it
>> > >as you.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
>> > >
>> > >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
>> > >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some
>> money.
>> > >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
>> > >>
>> > >> Dany
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
>> > >> registered by
>> > >> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in
>>my
>> > >>domain
>> > >> > operator and I see price about 30$.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Piotr
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> EdB
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> 

RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Kessler CTR Mark J]

Same thing now even with an E

Royalesdk.com [1] or many others.

[1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalesdk.com

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Wetmore [mailto:cottag...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:10 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Andrew Wetmore]

Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:

> RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
>
>
> [1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalsdk=en
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
>
> AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
> haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
> if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
> to still pay some other place to register the domain.
>
> Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
> was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
>
> Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
> don't have to choose one.
>
> My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
> $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> 
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks Dany,
> >
> >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
> >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
> >for
> >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
> >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
> >like that.
> >
> >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
> >as you.
> >
> >
> >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
> >
> >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
> >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> >>
> >> Dany
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> >> >
> >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> >> registered by
> >> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
> >>domain
> >> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> >> >
> >> > Piotr
> >> >
> >> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >> >
> >> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> >> >>
> >> >> EdB
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
> >> I'll
> >> >>> gladly donate :-)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> EdB
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
> >>:)
> >> 
> >>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> >> 
> >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic
> .
> >>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a4
> 7029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
> >>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%
> 2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
> >>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
> >> >
> >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
> >>some
> >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
> >> for
> >>  the
> >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> >> >
> >> > EdB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Carlos,
> >> >>
> >> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for
> extension
> >> >> for
> >> >> another year it could cost same ?
> >> >>
> >> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything
> >>bad
> >>  :) I
> >> >> like it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Piotr
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
> >>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
> >> >> :
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi Erik,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is my order of preference:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive,
> so
> >> >> we
> >> > must
> >> >>> give up with that :(
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
> >>  meaning. I
> >> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
> >>  English
> >> >>> 

RE: Royale website and domain registration

[Kessler CTR Mark J]

RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com


[1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalsdk=en

-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration

AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be surprised
if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may have
to still pay some other place to register the domain.

Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the "as"
was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.

Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
don't have to choose one.

My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some way
$100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?

Thanks,
-Alex

On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
 wrote:

>Thanks Dany,
>
>if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
>me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
>Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
>for
>it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose that
>the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or something
>like that.
>
>The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like it
>as you.
>
>
>2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
>
>> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
>> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some money.
>> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
>>
>> Dany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
>> >
>> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
>> registered by
>> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
>>domain
>> > operator and I see price about 30$.
>> >
>> > Piotr
>> >
>> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>> >
>> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
>> >>
>> >> EdB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12, which
>> I'll
>> >>> gladly donate :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> EdB
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  If more people would like to give some we may have that royale.io.
>>:)
>> 
>>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
>> 
>> > 'royale.as' is available here:
>> >
>> >
>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic.
>>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a47029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
>>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
>>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
>> >
>> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
>>some
>> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well go
>> for
>>  the
>> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
>> >
>> > EdB
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Carlos,
>> >>
>> >> I can give couple of dollars for royale.io :) Later for extension
>> >> for
>> >> another year it could cost same ?
>> >>
>> >> +1 for royale.as - In Polish there is no connection to anything
>>bad
>>  :) I
>> >> like it.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Piotr
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2017-09-22 10:39 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira <
>>  carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Erik,
>> >>>
>> >>> This is my order of preference:
>> >>>
>> >>> - royale.io is the best option, but as you said is expensive, so
>> >> we
>> > must
>> >>> give up with that :(
>> >>>
>> >>> - royale.as: we should check if it comes with some negative
>>  meaning. I
>> >>> don't see nothing, but maybe you guys that are more native in
>>  English
>> >>> language could see some problems. Aside from that could be
>>  problematic
>> > to
>> >>> have a domain that is supposed to be designated to a country?
>> >> (Samoa
>> >>> Americana)
>> >>>
>> >>> Other top level options available (before going with more
>>complex
>> > names)
>> >>> that could fit our purposes:
>> >>>
>> >>> * royale.app<-- ok we are not an App, but with Royale people
>>  

Re: Royale website and domain registration

[Carlos Rovira]

I think Om's offer is very generous, but for what Alex said, we could end
paying 3 or 4 times 100$ plus the real parking. For me that seems a game we
should not play...

I think the more easy and best option right now is "royale.web" or ".app"
(if .as is taken, that is what it seems right?).

We should exhaust the "royale." options before enter composed options.
For composed names, I think people would end trying first "apacheroyale.com"
(or.org, or .io, or whatever) that are all available before considering
adding "sdk" or "framework" for example.



2017-09-22 19:10 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :

> Check for RoyaleSDK, with the "e"
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J <
> mark.kessler@usmc.mil> wrote:
>
> > RoyalSDK sounds good.  [1] can even get a .Com
> >
> >
> > [1] https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=royalsdk=en
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID]
> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Royale website and domain registration
> >
> > AIUI, royale.io is owned by a squatter and the price STARTS at $199.  I
> > haven't tried to buy a domain from a squatter, but I wouldn't be
> surprised
> > if the price suddenly goes up.  And then beyond that, I think you may
> have
> > to still pay some other place to register the domain.
> >
> > Yes, royale.as can be associated with "royal pain in the ass" but the
> "as"
> > was good enough for spoon.as back in the day.
> >
> > Royale.web would be fine with me.  And we could grab other TLDs too, we
> > don't have to choose one.
> >
> > My question is, is it worth it?  Is royale.io going to pay off in some
> way
> > $100 better than royale.as which would pay off $88 better than say,
> > royaleapps.org or royalesdk.org?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 9/22/17, 3:26 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> Rovira"
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks Dany,
> > >
> > >if you guys see ok ni make a pool to get the .io domain that's fine with
> > >me, I'll be donating as well few bucks
> > >Maybe we should know first what's the final price and see open a thread
> > >for
> > >it asking the community for some little donation. Of course I suppose
> that
> > >the rest of years will be down to a normal price of 5 to 10€ or
> something
> > >like that.
> > >
> > >The other (more easy option) is to go with .app or .web if people like
> it
> > >as you.
> > >
> > >
> > >2017-09-22 11:35 GMT+02:00 Dany Dhondt :
> > >
> > >> Why not royale.web? Sounds cool to me…
> > >> if royale.io or something else is chosen, I’d gladly donate some
> money.
> > >> It’s the least we can do for all the work you folks did last year!
> > >>
> > >> Dany
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Op 22 sep. 2017, om 11:23 heeft Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> > >> >
> > >> > Let's wait what do others think about donating something.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not good in case of domain registration, but royale.io is
> > >> registered by
> > >> > someone else and we still can register it for us ? I checked in my
> > >>domain
> > >> > operator and I see price about 30$.
> > >> >
> > >> > Piotr
> > >> >
> > >> > 2017-09-22 11:08 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> > >> >
> > >> >> or, slightly better, royale.rocks, again for $12
> > >> >>
> > >> >> EdB
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Erik de Bruin <
> e...@ixsoftware.nl>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> We can also be '4chan cool' and get roy4le.com for only $12,
> which
> > >> I'll
> > >> >>> gladly donate :-)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> EdB
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >>  If more people would like to give some we may have that
> royale.io.
> > >>:)
> > >> 
> > >>  2017-09-22 10:50 GMT+02:00 Erik de Bruin :
> > >> 
> > >> > 'royale.as' is available here:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nic
> > .
> > >>as%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C5ee0196900bd485a503808d501a4
> > 7029%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
> > >>8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636416728125097204=4J%
> > 2B8Xvu15SZvqQ6FZ
> > >>zk3bxK%2BhUSP1LDw3Lv0Ph97Tc8%3D=0
> > >> >
> > >> > But it is $100 for 2 years, payable up front. That will require
> > >>some
> > >> > crowdfunding as well. And if we go that route, we might as well
> go
> > >> for
> > >>  the
> > >> > .io which is way cooler ;-)
> > >> >
> > >> > EdB
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > >> > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Carlos,
> > >> >>