Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-09-05 Thread Tim Williams
My initial reaction is "Yowsers!!!" Good stuff... I just hope I'm smart enough to understand half of it. Sorry for the spam but this is just pure learning here. Ross mentioned in a comment the other day about him learning as much from OS stuff as formal education and this type of email is lik

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-09-05 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 00:31 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > [NOTE: this is my summary of my interpretation of *part* of the > discussion at the views workshop at Apachecon. In other words I have > tried to represent the views of those present, but may have got some > bits wrong - this is a document

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-09-05 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Sorry, I'm late to respond, as usual ... Better late then never :-) Ross Gardler wrote: Stucture Thanks for starting this definition drive. That is really helpful. Thanks for taking the time to go over it, I was concerned it would get lost in the archives. Bring

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-08-19 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > >Ross Gardler wrote: > > > >>Some of the confusion over Views seems to have come about because they > >>do much more than just replace skins. They add a whole new feature set. > >>We therefore decided to define some terminology to help clarify the > >>s

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-08-19 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: [NOTE: this is my summary of my interpretation of *part* of the discussion at the views workshop at Apachecon. In other words I have tried to represent the views of those present, but may have got some bits wrong - this is a document for discussion no

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-08-18 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > [NOTE: this is my summary of my interpretation of *part* of the > discussion at the views workshop at Apachecon. In other words I have > tried to represent the views of those present, but may have got some > bits wrong - this is a document for discussion not a final documen

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-07-31 Thread Ross Gardler
Ross Gardler wrote: We should also remember our Forrest 1.0 Working Draft which addresses this issue from an implementation independant perspective http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/forrest/trunk/site-author/content/xdocs/TR/2004/WD-forrest10.html Hmmm... I was just reviewing t

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-07-31 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: During the various ApacheCon talks i noted some terms and words that people were using when they tried to describe views and its components. Maybe these are helpful to find new names. Thanks David. Here is what I remember their definition to be. As before this is meant to

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-07-30 Thread David Crossley
During the various ApacheCon talks i noted some terms and words that people were using when they tried to describe views and its components. Maybe these are helpful to find new names. Stucture Glue Controller Style Presentation Theme Nugget Aggregate If we clearly define what each phase of the pr

Re: Defining Views Terminology

2005-07-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Fantastic, Ross. Thx a million. You helped Mr. Confusion a big time. :) I waited for this mail to wrap up my proposal. ;-) Just one clarifications and a more detailed answer later. On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 00:31 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > View > > > Forrest:views add a structure to the

Defining Views Terminology

2005-07-30 Thread Ross Gardler
[NOTE: this is my summary of my interpretation of *part* of the discussion at the views workshop at Apachecon. In other words I have tried to represent the views of those present, but may have got some bits wrong - this is a document for discussion not a final document. You can get the audio f