Re: Resolution draft for graduation, members

[Sergio Fernández]

Draft looks just perfect. I think there us no better candidate for VP than
Daniel.

On Jan 5, 2018 22:08, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:

> Here's the Resolution you will vote on (at least that's my plan) in
> the graduation VOTE here on the poddling list. Anyone sees any
> oversight in it?
>
> As of the list of project members, I have listed everyone who said
> that he/she intends to stay so far. Anyone else? In the current list,
> everyone intends to be in the PMC as well.
>
> About the "be appointed to the office of Vice President" thing. Who
> should be it? I have written there myself for now, as I'm by far the
> most involved with the project. But maybe someone else fits that role
> better. I don't fancy titles, no offense taken in that case.
>
> And, as always... if you can, please check if we miss any formal
> requirements for graduation!
>
> 
>
> Establish the Apache FreeMarker Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> the public, related to a template engine.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache FreeMarker Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a template engine, and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache FreeMarker" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache FreeMarker Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache FreeMarker Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache FreeMarker Project:
>
>   * Dániel Dékány   
>   * David E. Jones  
>   * Jacopo Cappellato   
>   * Jacques Le Roux 
>   * Sergio Fernández
>   * Woonsan Ko  
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dániel Dékány
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache FreeMarker,
> to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator FreeMarker podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator FreeMarker podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

Re: Resolution draft for graduation, members

[Jacopo Cappellato]

Looks great to me and of course you are the best person for the VP role!

Jacopo

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:

> Here's the Resolution you will vote on (at least that's my plan) in
> the graduation VOTE here on the poddling list. Anyone sees any
> oversight in it?
>
> As of the list of project members, I have listed everyone who said
> that he/she intends to stay so far. Anyone else? In the current list,
> everyone intends to be in the PMC as well.
>
> About the "be appointed to the office of Vice President" thing. Who
> should be it? I have written there myself for now, as I'm by far the
> most involved with the project. But maybe someone else fits that role
> better. I don't fancy titles, no offense taken in that case.
>
> And, as always... if you can, please check if we miss any formal
> requirements for graduation!
>
> 
>
> Establish the Apache FreeMarker Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> the public, related to a template engine.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache FreeMarker Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a template engine, and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache FreeMarker" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache FreeMarker Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache FreeMarker Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache FreeMarker Project:
>
>   * Dániel Dékány   
>   * David E. Jones  
>   * Jacopo Cappellato   
>   * Jacques Le Roux 
>   * Sergio Fernández
>   * Woonsan Ko  
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dániel Dékány
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache FreeMarker,
> to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator FreeMarker podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator FreeMarker podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

Re: Resolution draft for graduation, members

[Jacques Le Roux]

+1

Jacques


Le 07/01/2018 à 13:25, Sergio Fernández a écrit :

Draft looks just perfect. I think there us no better candidate for VP than
Daniel.

On Jan 5, 2018 22:08, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:


Here's the Resolution you will vote on (at least that's my plan) in
the graduation VOTE here on the poddling list. Anyone sees any
oversight in it?

As of the list of project members, I have listed everyone who said
that he/she intends to stay so far. Anyone else? In the current list,
everyone intends to be in the PMC as well.

About the "be appointed to the office of Vice President" thing. Who
should be it? I have written there myself for now, as I'm by far the
most involved with the project. But maybe someone else fits that role
better. I don't fancy titles, no offense taken in that case.

And, as always... if you can, please check if we miss any formal
requirements for graduation!



Establish the Apache FreeMarker Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to a template engine.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache FreeMarker Project",
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a template engine, and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache FreeMarker" be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache FreeMarker Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache FreeMarker Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache FreeMarker Project:

   * Dániel Dékány   
   * David E. Jones  
   * Jacopo Cappellato   
   * Jacques Le Roux 
   * Sergio Fernández
   * Woonsan Ko  

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dániel Dékány
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache FreeMarker,
to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator FreeMarker podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator FreeMarker podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.

--
Thanks,
  Daniel Dekany

Re: freemarker.org is gone...

[Daniel Dekany]

OK, it works again. They switched nameservers, it was a transient.


Sunday, January 7, 2018, 1:30:35 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:

> It's unknown host now, and hence try.freemarker.org is as well. I have
> opened an Infra issue for it. Let's hope it's just accidental and will
> be resolved.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-15800
>

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Re: Resolution draft for graduation, members

[David E Jones]

Looks good Daniel, may it be resolved!

-David

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:

> Here's the Resolution you will vote on (at least that's my plan) in
> the graduation VOTE here on the poddling list. Anyone sees any
> oversight in it?
>
> As of the list of project members, I have listed everyone who said
> that he/she intends to stay so far. Anyone else? In the current list,
> everyone intends to be in the PMC as well.
>
> About the "be appointed to the office of Vice President" thing. Who
> should be it? I have written there myself for now, as I'm by far the
> most involved with the project. But maybe someone else fits that role
> better. I don't fancy titles, no offense taken in that case.
>
> And, as always... if you can, please check if we miss any formal
> requirements for graduation!
>
> 
>
> Establish the Apache FreeMarker Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> the public, related to a template engine.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache FreeMarker Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to a template engine, and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache FreeMarker" be
> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> of the Apache FreeMarker Project, and to have primary responsibility
> for management of the projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache FreeMarker Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache FreeMarker Project:
>
>   * Dániel Dékány   
>   * David E. Jones  
>   * Jacopo Cappellato   
>   * Jacques Le Roux 
>   * Sergio Fernández
>   * Woonsan Ko  
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dániel Dékány
> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache FreeMarker,
> to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> Incubator FreeMarker podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> Incubator FreeMarker podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> Project are hereafter discharged.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>

Re: Resolution draft for graduation, members

[Woonsan Ko]

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Sergio Fernández  wrote:
> Draft looks just perfect. I think there us no better candidate for VP than
> Daniel.

+1 on both.

Woonsan

>
> On Jan 5, 2018 22:08, "Daniel Dekany"  wrote:
>
>> Here's the Resolution you will vote on (at least that's my plan) in
>> the graduation VOTE here on the poddling list. Anyone sees any
>> oversight in it?
>>
>> As of the list of project members, I have listed everyone who said
>> that he/she intends to stay so far. Anyone else? In the current list,
>> everyone intends to be in the PMC as well.
>>
>> About the "be appointed to the office of Vice President" thing. Who
>> should be it? I have written there myself for now, as I'm by far the
>> most involved with the project. But maybe someone else fits that role
>> better. I don't fancy titles, no offense taken in that case.
>>
>> And, as always... if you can, please check if we miss any formal
>> requirements for graduation!
>>
>> 
>>
>> Establish the Apache FreeMarker Project
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>> the public, related to a template engine.
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache FreeMarker Project",
>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> Foundation; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby is
>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> related to a template engine, and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache FreeMarker" be
>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> of the Apache FreeMarker Project, and to have primary responsibility
>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>> responsibility of the Apache FreeMarker Project; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache FreeMarker Project:
>>
>>   * Dániel Dékány   
>>   * David E. Jones  
>>   * Jacopo Cappellato   
>>   * Jacques Le Roux 
>>   * Sergio Fernández
>>   * Woonsan Ko  
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dániel Dékány
>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache FreeMarker,
>> to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby
>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> Incubator FreeMarker podling; and be it further
>>
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator FreeMarker podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>>
>>

Re: Resolution draft for graduation, members

[Jacopo Cappellato]

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:30 AM, Ralph Goers 
wrote:

> You would probably be better served by having someone else volunteer to be
> PMC chair. My reasoning for that is exactly for the same reason you put
> yourself there. You are the most active committer and obviously aren’t
> going anywhere. Having someone else be chair insures that someone else is
> staying fairly involved in the activities of the project, even if they
> aren’t the most active committer. You need at least 3 active PMC members so
> use any opportunity you can to make sure you stay above that mark.
>
> Ralph
>

This is a valuable argument but my preference is that we begin with Daniel
and possibly consider this opportunity in the future: I think it is
important, for the continuity of the history of the project (before/after
graduation), to assign the PMC chair role to the most influential person in
the FreeMarker community (which is also an ASF member); also, at the moment
there are no issues in identifying +3 active PMC members and my hope is
that people will stay involved with the project because they care and not
because of the responsibility assigned to them.

Jacopo

Re: Resolution draft for graduation, members

[Ralph Goers]

You would probably be better served by having someone else volunteer to be PMC 
chair. My reasoning for that is exactly for the same reason you put yourself 
there. You are the most active committer and obviously aren’t going anywhere. 
Having someone else be chair insures that someone else is staying fairly 
involved in the activities of the project, even if they aren’t the most active 
committer. You need at least 3 active PMC members so use any opportunity you 
can to make sure you stay above that mark.

Ralph

> On Jan 7, 2018, at 1:08 PM, David E Jones  wrote:
> 
> Looks good Daniel, may it be resolved!
> 
> -David
> 
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Daniel Dekany  wrote:
> 
>> Here's the Resolution you will vote on (at least that's my plan) in
>> the graduation VOTE here on the poddling list. Anyone sees any
>> oversight in it?
>> 
>> As of the list of project members, I have listed everyone who said
>> that he/she intends to stay so far. Anyone else? In the current list,
>> everyone intends to be in the PMC as well.
>> 
>> About the "be appointed to the office of Vice President" thing. Who
>> should be it? I have written there myself for now, as I'm by far the
>> most involved with the project. But maybe someone else fits that role
>> better. I don't fancy titles, no offense taken in that case.
>> 
>> And, as always... if you can, please check if we miss any formal
>> requirements for graduation!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Establish the Apache FreeMarker Project
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>> the public, related to a template engine.
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache FreeMarker Project",
>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> Foundation; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby is
>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> related to a template engine, and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache FreeMarker" be
>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> of the Apache FreeMarker Project, and to have primary responsibility
>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>> responsibility of the Apache FreeMarker Project; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> Apache FreeMarker Project:
>> 
>>  * Dániel Dékány   
>>  * David E. Jones  
>>  * Jacopo Cappellato   
>>  * Jacques Le Roux 
>>  * Sergio Fernández
>>  * Woonsan Ko  
>> 
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dániel Dékány
>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache FreeMarker,
>> to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby
>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> Incubator FreeMarker podling; and be it further
>> 
>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> Incubator FreeMarker podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel Dekany
>> 
>>