Re: [DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
Thanks All. Sounds like we're in agreement. Will update our docs and begin following the new procedure. --kevan On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
I can't think of any reason why the 72-hour wait needs to be conditined. Rick On 8/11/2010 8:07 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
I agree on dropping the waiting period. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.comwrote: All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan -- Vamsi
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
I agree too! Lin On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan
[DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
I agree we should drop the waiting period. thanks david jencks On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
Agree to drop the 72 hour wait, as once the signed NDA is on file there should be no further delays required. -Donald On 8/11/10 8:07 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan
Re: [DISCUSS] Policy for granting access to Geronimo TCK materials
I agree seems like it isn't necessary and we might as well be consistent. Joe On 8/11/10 8:07 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: All, Our policy for granting access to the Geronimo TCK test harness is described here -- https://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxPMGT/geronimo-project-policies.html#GeronimoProjectPolicies-AccesstoTCK The policy describes a 72 hour waiting period when granting non-Geronimo committers read-only access to our TCK test harness. This period was intended to allow the Geronimo PMC time to provide oversight on these requests. Presumably, a PMC member could block someone's request (though this has never occurred and I can't, frankly, imagine a case where we would block someone's request). If we had our preference, our TCK test harness would not be in a private svn. It would instead be publicly readable by all. I would like to remove the 72 hour waiting period from our policy. If an ASF committer requests access to our test harness, I believe we should grant this access immediately. The 72 hour waiting period might have been more meaningful when the Geronimo project maintained and distributed the Sun (now Oracle) TCK. As a reminder, these materials are obtained via an agreement between the ASF and Sun/Oracle. To gain access to these materials, an ASF committer must sign an NDA. We still maintain/distribute the Sun/Oracle TCK for Java EE 5. However, the JCP project is maintaining the newer TCK materials. The JCP does not have a waiting period for granting access to the JCP maintained TCK materials. Comments? Objections? If I don't hear any objections, I'll plan on updating our policy and removing the 72 hour window... --kevan
