Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-23 Thread Andy Piper
At 02:43 AM 9/23/2005, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Sachin's problem is not related to configuration persistence but to the serialization of classes between plugin and server when using JMX remoting over RMI. The upshot of it all is unless we are going to ditch all use of serialization and replace

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-23 Thread Bill Stoddard
Matt Hogstrom wrote: Not being totally familiar with all the nuances in G WRT to serialization my comments should be taken with a grain of salt. From my perspetive there are two major problems with serialized data. One, its very fragile Yes. and two you can't change it if you need to.

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-23 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Sachin Patel wrote: This is because eclipse can not reference classes or jars at runtime that are not packaged within a plug-in and marked as visible in either the plugin.xml or manifest. A big problem resides as now the same jars I'm packaging must be the same exact jars that reside in the

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-23 Thread Matt Hogstrom
My bad Jeremy. You are correct. I latched onto serialization and immediately went to configuration. I realized the error of my ways this morning when you mentioned the plugin. Doh. Jeremy Boynes wrote: Sachin Patel wrote: This is because eclipse can not reference classes or jars at

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-23 Thread David Blevins
Ditto, sorry. (Still not a fan of serialized configs :) -David On Sep 23, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: My bad Jeremy. You are correct. I latched onto serialization and immediately went to configuration. I realized the error of my ways this morning when you mentioned the

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-22 Thread David Blevins
On Sep 22, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Sachin Patel wrote: So if you are not aware, I'm pulling in and packaging several jars from the lib and lib/endorsed directory into one of the eclipse plug-in, so the classes can be used and referenced by the rest of the eclipse plugins. This is because

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-22 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Sachin's problem is not related to configuration persistence but to the serialization of classes between plugin and server when using JMX remoting over RMI. The upshot of it all is unless we are going to ditch all use of serialization and replace it with XML then we need to exercise the

RE: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-22 Thread Tyrell Perera
Hi Sachin, I'm interested in contributing to the Eclipse tools project of Geronimo. I have sent a mail before asking where to find more information, since the link given to download the unstable build of the plug-in was broken when I tried. Can you please give me some pointers on where to begin

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-22 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Not being totally familiar with all the nuances in G WRT to serialization my comments should be taken with a grain of salt. From my perspetive there are two major problems with serialized data. One, its very fragile and two you can't change it if you need to. One could argue users shouldn't

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-22 Thread Sachin Patel
Hi. Tyrell, I've already fixed the link. In the future, please start a new thread when discussing a new topic, or respond with your original thread. Thanks. Tyrell Perera wrote: Hi Sachin, I'm interested in contributing to the Eclipse tools project of Geronimo. I have sent a mail before

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-22 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Matt Hogstrom wrote: Not being totally familiar with all the nuances in G WRT to serialization my comments should be taken with a grain of salt. From my perspetive there are two major problems with serialized data. One, its very fragile and two you can't change it if you need to. One could

Re: Java serizalization compatibility issues

2005-09-22 Thread Sachin Patel
I think it would be nice to be able to publish using either SOAP or RMI, and provide that option to the user in the server configuration panel in the tools. I think RMI has better performance once we remote deployment is supported, but SOAP is more reliable through firewalls, so thats why it