Re: call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-03 Thread Thejas Nair
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Edward Capriolo wrote: > If you thing hive has "friends" named "DB2, Oracle, teradata, vertica, > impala" you are wrong. OK, feel free to replace 'friends' with 'not friends' in that sentence. That does not change the argument.

Re: call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-03 Thread Edward Capriolo
If you thing hive has "friends" named "DB2, Oracle, teradata, vertica, impala" you are wrong. Besides the fact that some of them originally took the position that map reduce "was a big step backwards", All of those are commercial products aiming at selling something to people. That is their core m

Re: call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-03 Thread Alan Gates
I'm +1 for calling it Hive SQL. No one knows what HQL is when they see the initials. Hive Query Language? Hadoop Query Language? Harold's Query Language? I agree with Ed that we should be up front about what Hive is and isn't and about where it's going and where it isn't. Whenever people ask

Re: call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-03 Thread Thejas Nair
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Edward Capriolo wrote: > What is in a name? :) > > "Which SQL feature you are talking about here, that forces single reducer > and hence should not be supported?" > > Joining on anything besides = comes to mind > > Pretty sure the query mentioned here will not work

Re: call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-02 Thread Edward Capriolo
What is in a name? :) "Which SQL feature you are talking about here, that forces single reducer and hence should not be supported?" Joining on anything besides = comes to mind Pretty sure the query mentioned here will not work (without being re-written) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL SELECT i

Re: call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-02 Thread Thejas Nair
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Edward Capriolo wrote: > "I see that the hive community intends to make hive SQL compliant and is on > that path." . I was not under the general impression that we are on that > path. Well, whenever we try to decide what the behavior should be, we refer to what SQL

Re: call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-02 Thread Edward Capriolo
"I see that the hive community intends to make hive SQL compliant and is on that path." . I was not under the general impression that we are on that path. Someone once told me that supporting full SQL will result in roughly 4 times the parser and planner code. For me that is not a huge win. Also

call it Hive-SQL instead of HiveQL ?

2013-07-02 Thread Thejas Nair
I see that the hive community intends to make hive SQL compliant and is on that path. Just like other databases, it has some extensions to SQL, and there are some standard features it does not support. SQL is also one of the strong selling points of hive. But using the term HiveQL, I think conveys