Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Querna
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 04:48 PM 5/2/2005, Paul Querna wrote: Personally, I have held off on starting refactors of code, because I do not want to be detrimental to the ability to make a 2.2 Branch. I would like to investigate making more parts of httpd async, in conjunction with the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Querna
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: This has somewhat turned into the real question, What are the show stoppers for a 2.2 GA Branch? If you believe an issue is a show stopper for a GA Branch, please add it to the STATUS File. So to amend your original proposal; on May 13; * tagging an alpha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 03:24 AM 5/3/2005, Paul Querna wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: This has somewhat turned into the real question, What are the show stoppers for a 2.2 GA Branch? If you believe an issue is a show stopper for a GA Branch, please add it to the STATUS File. So to amend your original proposal;

Fw: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-03 Thread spam-admin
- Original Message - From: Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: This has somewhat turned into the real question, What are the show stoppers for a 2.2 GA

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Dmitri Tikhonov
Why do I suddenly have the I Have A Dream speech flashes? ;-) - Dmitri. Paul Querna wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think that most other developers agree that 2.1.x/trunk has enough features for a 2.2.x GA branch. I believe 2.1.x is a moving target. I think it is hard to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Friday, April 29, 2005 3:45 PM -0700 Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am proposing the branch date be May 13, 2005. ++1. -- justin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'm +1 for branching 2.2-alpha... However, there are 2 outstanding show-stoppers. Do we expect these to be addressed before the branch. I think so, especially if they require API changes

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Nick Kew
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Why couldn't we fix those up after the branch? The point would be to stop making 2.1.x a moving target so that we can fix the showstoppers. +1 on that. Not on the timing, though: I won't have time for apache until after Xtech[1], so that's a definite abstension on

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Monday, May 2, 2005 3:33 PM -0400 Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the whole idea about having a 2.1 dev version was to avoid monkeying around with the API and the problems when we were doing 1.3 and 2.0. Once we branch, it is possible that we'll run into issues that may

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Monday, May 2, 2005 3:33 PM -0400 Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the whole idea about having a 2.1 dev version was to avoid monkeying around with the API and the problems when we were doing 1.3 and 2.0. Once we branch, it is possible

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Brad Nicholes
+1 Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, April 29, 2005 4:45:19 PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think that most other developers agree that 2.1.x/trunk has enough features for a 2.2.x GA branch. I believe 2.1.x is a moving target. I think it is hard to stabilize a moving target.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 05:45 PM 4/29/2005, Paul Querna wrote: I think that most other developers agree that 2.1.x/trunk has enough features for a 2.2.x GA branch. +1 I believe 2.1.x is a moving target. +/- 0. I see the tree is fairly stable, has some decent bug fixing activity, and nothing destabling. To the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: From discussion - I see us branching 2.1.x anyways, but still object since we will now be maintaining two or three backports for every bugfix commit to trunk/. Humbly suggest this isn't the conclusion we reached at AC Las Vegas, and suggest it's still the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Paul Querna
Jim Jagielski wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: From discussion - I see us branching 2.1.x anyways, but still object since we will now be maintaining two or three backports for every bugfix commit to trunk/. Humbly suggest this isn't the conclusion we reached at AC Las Vegas, and suggest

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Sander Striker
Jim Jagielski wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: From discussion - I see us branching 2.1.x anyways, but still object since we will now be maintaining two or three backports for every bugfix commit to trunk/. If the trees are so in sync that the same patch applies it's trivial to do the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
Sander Striker wrote: If the trees are so in sync that the same patch applies it's trivial to do the backports. The backport issue will still stay FWIW. If not now, it will come at the time we have 2.0 and 2.2 out there, and trunk is at 2.3-dev. It's not like we can drop support for 2.0

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 05:26 PM 5/2/2005, Sander Striker wrote: Bill makes some good points... it seems that branching would simply be renaming trunk. The good thing is that with svn this is cheap and easy, but will it really do what we want? Also, the gotta backport this to yet another branch issue is valid. No it

Re: [PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-05-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 04:48 PM 5/2/2005, Paul Querna wrote: Personally, I have held off on starting refactors of code, because I do not want to be detrimental to the ability to make a 2.2 Branch. I would like to investigate making more parts of httpd async, in conjunction with the Event MPM. I would also like to

[PROPOSAL] Branch 2.1.x on May 13

2005-04-29 Thread Paul Querna
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think that most other developers agree that 2.1.x/trunk has enough features for a 2.2.x GA branch. I believe 2.1.x is a moving target. I think it is hard to stabilize a moving target. I believe we should always keep trunk open for development. I