Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-09 Thread Jason Rigby
With regards to this whole new welcome page thingy, I feel the somewhat redundant need to say my lil bit-o-stuff Maybe there should simply be a blank page that says something like: This page is under constuction And it could go out on a crazy tangent to say something like the server version as

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-08 Thread Manoj Kasichainula
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 01:12:33PM -0400, Joshua Slive wrote: My opinion is that the shorter message is better because, by the fact that it gives no information at all, it is less likely to be misinterpreted to mean something that the website owner doesn't intend. +1, as long as there's no

RE: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-07 Thread John Rowe
If I was a newbie, and I saw a page that says `it worked`, my immediate reaction would be `what worked?` and I would start asking the exact questions we`re trying to stop people from asking. We can always go with simply displaying a meaningless word like 'Waboozle'. And so the madness

RE: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-07 Thread Sander Striker
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 12:08, John Rowe wrote: If I was a newbie, and I saw a page that says `it worked`, my immediate reaction would be `what worked?` and I would start asking the exact questions we`re trying to stop people from asking. We can always go with simply displaying a

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Andr Malo
* Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair warning: As the first stage of a simplification of the default config in 2.1 (only!), I'm going to remove all the html files under httpd-2.1/docs/docroot/ and replace them with an index.html file containing only htmlbodyh1It

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Chip Cuccio
* Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__ Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 01:30:23PM -0400: (only!), I'm going to remove all the html files under httpd-2.1/docs/docroot/ and replace them with an index.html file containing only htmlbodyh1It works!/h1/body/html +1 Good call, Josh. -- Chip Cuccio

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, [ISO-8859-15] André Malo wrote: - there are 1000 people with 1000 other opinions. For that reason, I'm ++1 for taking this minimalistic variant. Otherwise we get never a consensus about this darn dummy page. That's an exceedingly good point. Make it so. :) +1. --Cliff

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Erik Abele
On 06.10.2004, at 18:07, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, [ISO-8859-15] André Malo wrote: - there are 1000 people with 1000 other opinions. For that reason, I'm ++1 for taking this minimalistic variant. Otherwise we get never a consensus about this darn dummy page. That's an exceedingly

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Joshua Slive
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Graham Leggett wrote: Joshua Slive wrote: No, because this is a very confusing and ambiguous statement from the perspective of a random web surfer who stumbles on the page. Their response is Why are you saying I installed a webserver on my computer? This must be some kind

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Graham Leggett
Joshua Slive wrote: My opinion is that the shorter message is better because, by the fact that it gives no information at all, it is less likely to be misinterpreted to mean something that the website owner doesn't intend. I won't object if someone wants to put another piece of text there, as

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Brad Nicholes
From what I can see, the reason for providing a short and simple welcome page is to avoid confusing people by giving them too much information. The question I would ask is, are you just trading one set of problems for another? How many people are we going to confuse by not giving enough

RE: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Sander Striker
-Original Message- From: Graham Leggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bye bye welcome page Joshua Slive wrote: My opinion is that the shorter message is better because, by the fact that it gives

RE: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Sander Striker wrote: We can always go with simply displaying a meaningless word like 'Waboozle'. I can see the bugtraq advisory now: Waboozle virus on the loose. ;)

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-05 Thread Graham Leggett
Joshua Slive wrote: As the first stage of a simplification of the default config in 2.1 (only!), I'm going to remove all the html files under httpd-2.1/docs/docroot/ and replace them with an index.html file containing only htmlbodyh1It works!/h1/body/html Is it possible to say a little bit more

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-05 Thread Joshua Slive
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Graham Leggett wrote: Joshua Slive wrote: As the first stage of a simplification of the default config in 2.1 (only!), I'm going to remove all the html files under httpd-2.1/docs/docroot/ and replace them with an index.html file containing only htmlbodyh1It

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-05 Thread Graham Leggett
Joshua Slive wrote: No, because this is a very confusing and ambiguous statement from the perspective of a random web surfer who stumbles on the page. Their response is Why are you saying I installed a webserver on my computer? This must be some kind of security breach. Call in the marines!

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-05 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Graham Leggett wrote: Point... How about The website you have accessed has not yet been Or: The website you have accessed is running but has not yet been... that speaks to both. configured. Please try to access this website again later.? It's directed at end users, and

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-05 Thread Cemil Degirmenci
Hi There, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Graham Leggett wrote: The website you have accessed is running but has not yet been... The website you have accessed is running but has no content at the moment. or: It works!But i am sorry, there is no content at the moment. Try again later.

Re: Bye bye welcome page

2004-10-05 Thread Scott A. Undercofler
I agree with the originator of this. I have had to deal with way too many complaints from users re: Why when I go to x does it think I have a webserver on my computer? Just a suggestion that I merged into my RPM builds. Don't put an index.html file at all. Put test.html and make sure Indexes are