Re: More dirty tricks (VC 8 and Framework 2.0.40607)

2004-12-13 Thread Tonko Juricic
--- William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/bakerdozen.asp Thought that might get some other's attention, I can't delve until sometime over the new year holiday. Gasp...choke.. Jezus! This is getting

Re: Compiling with VC++ 8 (Express beta)

2004-12-13 Thread Jeff White
From: Tonko Juricic Subject: Compiling with VC++ 8 (Express beta) Isn't the loading of the CLR different for _any_ .NET version over 1.1? Hasn't CLSID_CorRuntimeHost and IID_ICorRuntimeHost been replaced with CLSID_CLRRuntimeHost and IID_ICLRRuntimeHost? And aren't there many, many

Re: Compiling with VC++ 8 (Express beta)

2004-12-13 Thread Tonko Juricic
--- Jeff White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the loading of the CLR different for _any_ .NET version over 1.1? Hasn't CLSID_CorRuntimeHost and IID_ICorRuntimeHost been replaced with CLSID_CLRRuntimeHost and IID_ICLRRuntimeHost? And aren't there many, many hosting options

Re: SVN release methodology : svn copy

2004-12-13 Thread Geoffrey Young
svn copy https://svn.apache.org/.../trunk \ https://svn.apache.org/.../tags/1.17 (optionally with an -r to peg at specific revision, I guess) Yes, that's probably what we will have to end up doing in the future. if you can find the time, can you please make sure the RELEASE file is

Apache-Test/Makefile.PL r105822

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoff, This change: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/httpd/test/trunk/perl-framework/Apache-Test/Makefile.PL?rev=105822r1=105299r2=105822diff_format=h adding: if ($ExtUtils::MakeMaker::VERSION 6.06) { # now that we're using subversion, make sure that # .svn

Re: Apache-Test/Makefile.PL r105822

2004-12-13 Thread Geoffrey Young
doesn't seem to be right. sub is a compile time directive, so putting it in a conditional doesn't prevent from it being compiled: indeed. guess I wasn't thinking, which seems to be happening lots lately. Moreover it now introduces a warning in mp2 build Subroutine MY::libscan redefined at

Re: Apache-Test/Makefile.PL r105822

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: doesn't seem to be right. sub is a compile time directive, so putting it in a conditional doesn't prevent from it being compiled: indeed. guess I wasn't thinking, which seems to be happening lots lately. No worries :) There is a way too many things to think about. Moreover

Re: PATCH: call aclocal for PCRE in buildconf

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip automake corrupts the build process by forcing us to give up control without solving any fundamental problems and introduce a lot of needless complexity and bugs into the build system. I wouldn't let any project that I hate use it. It's

Re: PATCH: call aclocal for PCRE in buildconf

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Max Bowsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually aclocal belongs to automake. But then, it would be a weird system where autoconf/automake/libtool are not installed as a group, so I guess that's still ok. I personally prefer just install exactly these packages which are really needed

Re: PATCH: call aclocal for PCRE in buildconf

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Querna
Enrico Weigelt wrote: I have to build many binary packages for several targets (crosscompiling) and there're just a few days when the autoconf'ed configure stuff works withouut trouble. Carefully hand-written Makefiles and configure-scripts work much better. httpd has already been there. See the

Re: metux MPM, was RFC for a Perchild-like-MPM

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I only see patches for 2.0.48 and .49. Do you have something against Subversion Trunk? Have you tried it against 2.1 yet? not yet. we all have very plenty time. the maillist is full of people, but 99.9% only lurking :( snip Then be active on

Re: PCRE in 2.1/2.2

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Querna
Enrico Weigelt wrote: snip Dependencies are to be tracked by a vendor, not by our users who download the source from us. Ah, great. And when will be the day when glibc is included in httpd ? Never. glibc is GPL/LGPLed, and the httpd server project cannot distribute it as part of our license and

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You aren't. I agree auto* sucks, but there isn't a viable alternative that works today. Well, I've tried to aquire helpers for such a project for years, in dozens of other projects. But the only ones who were at least thinking about it were the

Re: Towards a generic database connection API

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip LGPL`ed, and I have never seen it used from an Apache Module. something bad on lgpl ? It looks quite heavy... the APR DBD api is just a loose wrapper around the low level calls, its a different target than unixODBC, which looks to be much much

Re: PCRE in 2.1/2.2

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enrico Weigelt wrote: snip Dependencies are to be tracked by a vendor, not by our users who download the source from us. Ah, great. And when will be the day when glibc is included in httpd ? Never. glibc is GPL/LGPLed, and the httpd server project

Re: MPM with DYNAMICAL user switching?

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Dmitry Koteroff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Perchild MPM allows to run different vhost requests under different user accounts. But: no, it doesn't. I have to correct myself: It does, but its fundamentally insecure -- nearly

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread André Malo
* Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are the httpd server project, not the autoconf replacement project. With this mentality we will never get something better. Such software doesnt simply fall from the heaven. Sure. We get a better httpd. nd

Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]

2004-12-13 Thread André Malo
* Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? vendor branch. nd

Re: Towards a generic database connection API

2004-12-13 Thread André Malo
* Enrico Weigelt wrote: As long as httpd brings its own expat and pcre, we dont need to discuss about the heavyliness of unixodbc. Fine. Nobody here even wants to discuss it. nd -- die (eval q-qq[Just Another Perl Hacker ] ;-) # André Malo, http://pub.perlig.de/ #

Re: Towards a generic database connection API

2004-12-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:33:59PM +, Nick Kew wrote: I've updated the proposed DBD API, and written a better description of it at URL:http://www.apache.org/~niq/dbd.html. This defines only the API, decoupled from my software implementing it. ... Bearing this in mind, I'd like to

Re: Towards a generic database connection API

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Querna
Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip LGPL`ed, and I have never seen it used from an Apache Module. something bad on lgpl ? Yes, but this is not the place to dicuss philosophical differences on open source. It looks quite heavy... the APR DBD api is just a loose

Re: Towards a generic database connection API

2004-12-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 10:08:26AM +, Nick Kew wrote: ... Several folks on IRC favour an apr_dbi layer. That's great, but it's a different project, and I'd certainly want to look at harnessing existing DBI projects rather than reinventing that wheel. Yes, but what you're seeing is a bunch

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2004-12-13 Thread marcs
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Re: Towards a generic database connection API

2004-12-13 Thread Nick Kew
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Greg Stein wrote: On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:33:59PM +, Nick Kew wrote: I've updated the proposed DBD API, and written a better description of it at URL:http://www.apache.org/~niq/dbd.html. This defines only the API, decoupled from my software implementing it.

Re: svn commit: r111596 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/CHANGES /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/listen.c

2004-12-13 Thread Joe Orton
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 09:53:17AM -, Paul Querna wrote: Author: pquerna Date: Sat Dec 11 01:53:16 2004 New Revision: 111596 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=111596 Log: * Add bits to use APR_TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT * Log Warnings when adding defer accept or an accept filter

Re: PCRE in 2.1/2.2

2004-12-13 Thread Richard Jones
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 12:57:36AM -0700, Paul Querna wrote: I agree with you however, but this is the current state of httpd. Patches to allow using of external libs for everything we currently embed are extremely welcome. For external PCRE:

Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]

2004-12-13 Thread Richard Jones
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 05:43:58AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Brad Nicholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big_snip / Hi folks, Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ?! I personally *always* use sysetm libs instead of bundled libs when some packages do such bundling. But I'm really

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread Patrick Welche
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 09:20:41AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You aren't. I agree auto* sucks, but there isn't a viable alternative that works today. Well, I've tried to aquire helpers for such a project for years, in dozens of other

Re: PATCH: call aclocal for PCRE in buildconf

2004-12-13 Thread Patrick Welche
On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 09:44:19AM +, Joe Orton wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 03:19:44PM -0800, Brian Pane wrote: I found that the configure.in in recent releases of PCRE uses some autoconf macros that won't work unless aclocal is called first to produce a proper aclocal.m4:

Re: svn commit: r111596 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/CHANGES /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/listen.c

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Querna
Joe Orton wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 09:53:17AM -, Paul Querna wrote: Author: pquerna Date: Sat Dec 11 01:53:16 2004 New Revision: 111596 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=111596 Log: * Add bits to use APR_TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT * Log Warnings when adding defer accept or an accept

FW: Auth LDAP Authentication of Client SSL

2004-12-13 Thread TAYLOR, TIM \(CONTRACTOR\)
Wayne, have you looked into the SSLOptions +FakeBasicAuth directive? regards, tt 317-510-5987 -Original Message- From: Wayne S. Frazee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Auth LDAP Authentication of Client SSL I am

Re: FW: Auth LDAP Authentication of Client SSL

2004-12-13 Thread Wayne S. Frazee
On Monday 13 December 2004 11:26, TAYLOR, TIM (CONTRACTOR) wrote: Wayne, have you looked into the SSLOptions +FakeBasicAuth directive? Fakeauth allows the transfer of the DN to use as a basic name, which is fine, however the problem I am having is more along the lines of verifying the

Proposal: mod_acceptfilter

2004-12-13 Thread Rici Lake
With reference to [Re: svn commit: r111596] The following proposal attempts to provide a simple way of configuring a server which supports multiple protocols (http, ftp, nntp) while allowing the administrator and/or packager to configure OS kernel- implemented accept filters, as provided by

Proposal: Listen sections

2004-12-13 Thread Rici Lake
(An addendum to the previous mod_acceptfilter proposal.) From my experience on #apache, it appears that Mere Mortals have a great deal of difficulty successfully configuring virtual hosts. I think this is understandable; the algorithm used to allocate requests to virtual host sections is

Re: Apache HTTP Server 2.1.2 tagged...

2004-12-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 07:28 PM 12/12/2004, Paul Querna wrote: +1 for promoting it to beta status. I tested on NetBSD-2.0 and FreeBSD 5.2.1. I was able to duplicate the regressions in mod_rewrite and mod_proxy: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32459 However, the proxy related regressions are only

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Monday, December 13, 2004 5:29 AM +0100 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we don't maintain configure; bad enough. an carefully hand-written configure would be much better. Been there, done that with APACI. We ain't going back to a hand-written configure. AIUI, your problem is

Re: 2.1.2-alpha http/ftp proxy/cache problems

2004-12-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Sunday, December 12, 2004 3:49 PM +0100 Andreas Steinmetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems from the tcpdump that img src=http://www.bitmover.com/gifs/bitkeeper-shadow.gif; is requested by the proxy resulting in a 304 and then the same tcp connection is erroneously reused to request the

Re: Apache HTTP Server 2.1.2 tagged...

2004-12-13 Thread Ian Holsman
Paul Querna wrote: +1 for promoting it to beta status. +1 for making it beta.. time to get some more people to shake the bugs out. been using it on OS/X for a while now and it seems not to crash every 5 seconds ;-) Ian

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread Joe Orton
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 03:35:38PM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Monday, December 13, 2004 5:29 AM +0100 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we don't maintain configure; bad enough. an carefully hand-written configure would be much better. Been there, done that with APACI. We

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 08:08 AM 12/13/2004, Patrick Welche wrote: Is part of the problem automake avoidance? AFAIR httpd just uses autoconf and libtool. The other thing is that now that libtool has a LT_PREREQ (VERSION) macro, one could set that and no longer maintain the special httpd distributed version and

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 09:00:58AM +, Joe Orton wrote: Yeah, that was fixed in 1.5.10. For an autoconf 2.59-generated configure script the only reference to grep -E is in the test to see whether grep -E works or not, so that looks fixed to me too. Excellent. So we've wasted all this

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 03:33 AM 12/14/2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 03:20:26AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Seriously, we could target only latest-n-greatest, but that goes against the grain of many participants. I think we should be much stricter for the releases we make and

Re: yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-13 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 06:39:25AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: hi folks, when trying to crosscompile apache, it breaks in libapr configure: cannot check setpgrp when crosscompiling So crosscompiling seems to be impossible. I've tested it on 2.0.49 up to 2.0.52. It is possible

Re: PCRE in 2.1/2.2

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip srclib/apr-util/configure --help | grep expat --with-expat=DIRspecify Expat location Ah, yeah. I've grepped for --with-pcre, which is missing. I'm now trying it on my buildfarm ... snip btw: why is it a goal to put all dependencies into

Auth LDAP Authentication of Client SSL

2004-12-13 Thread Wayne S. Frazee
I am interested in constructing an environment where an identity token is stored on a user-specific hardware (eg keyfob or smartcard) and the matching token is in an LDAP directory. After looking through the Apache 2 mod_auth_ldap documentation, it occured to me that the base functionality for

Re: FW: Auth LDAP Authentication of Client SSL

2004-12-13 Thread Joe Orton
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 12:52:00PM -0700, Wayne S. Frazee wrote: On Monday 13 December 2004 11:26, TAYLOR, TIM (CONTRACTOR) wrote: Wayne, have you looked into the SSLOptions +FakeBasicAuth directive? Fakeauth allows the transfer of the DN to use as a basic name, which is fine,

Re: Apache HTTP Server 2.1.2 tagged...

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Querna
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: -0 right now on beta, here's my thinking; Apache 2.0 didn't (originally) deliver a functioning cache or proxy. That was the #1 reason for folks to 'choose' to hang onto 1.3 when the 2.0 server went out the door. Delivering Beta 1 with a fully functioning cache and

Re: Apache HTTP Server 2.1.2 tagged...

2004-12-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Monday, December 13, 2004 2:40 PM -0700 Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be 2.1.2-beta right? Not 2.2.0-beta1? Correct. Our first 'beta' release doesn't necessarily mean that it'd be 2.2.0-beta1. We can have as many 2.1.x betas as we want. However, I think it was said that

Re: Apache HTTP Server 2.1.2 tagged...

2004-12-13 Thread NormW
Ian Holsman wrote: Paul Querna wrote: +1 for promoting it to beta status. +1 for making it beta.. time to get some more people to shake the bugs out. been using it on OS/X for a while now and it seems not to crash every 5 seconds ;-) Ian . OS/X? N.

mod_actions 1.32 patch never made it to 2.0

2004-12-13 Thread Ryan Bloom
A co-worker of mine pointed out that the following works in Apache 1.3, but not 2.0 if the location /foo, doesn't exist on the disk: AddHandler foobar /cgi-bin/printenv Location /foo SetHandler foobar /Location This patch ports this behavior forward into 2.0. Index:

autoshit addiction [WAS: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem]

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip AIUI, your problem is fixed if we roll with current autoconf and libtool versions. I've been using ac 2.59 and lt 1.5.10 for 2.1.x releases - do they work for you out-of-the-box? I don't know of any particular reason No, doesn't make a

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip With this mentality we will never get something better. Such software doesnt simply fall from the heaven. Sure. We get a better httpd. Yes, of course. Software doesn't get built from source by magic. Either people to this completely by hand or

Re: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Patrick Welche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is part of the problem automake avoidance? AFAIR httpd just uses No, autoconf is bad enough, automake will make it even worse. Dont expect apache to remain in so many distros if you switch to automake and bring distributor's life ten steps nearer

Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Richard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27550 Doesnt answer the question, instead clearly showing in what trouble we run when doing such

Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? vendor branch. how does it answer my question ? cu -- -

yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
hi folks, when trying to crosscompile apache, it breaks in libapr configure: cannot check setpgrp when crosscompiling So crosscompiling seems to be impossible. I've tested it on 2.0.49 up to 2.0.52. cu -- - Enrico

Re: mod_actions 1.32 patch never made it to 2.0

2004-12-13 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Ryan Bloom wrote: A co-worker of mine pointed out that the following works in Apache 1.3, but not 2.0 if the location /foo, doesn't exist on the disk: AddHandler foobar /cgi-bin/printenv Location /foo SetHandler foobar /Location This patch ports this behavior

Re: yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So crosscompiling seems to be impossible. I've tested it on 2.0.49 up to 2.0.52. uhm. cross compiling from what to what? i686-pc-gnu-linux - i686-pc-gnu-linux, but with sysroot and different libc versions. cu --

Re: autoshit addiction [WAS: [PATCH] fixing broken gnu ld (mis)detection problem]

2004-12-13 Thread André Malo
* Enrico Weigelt wrote: Again its an autoconf problem. More than just a bug. I'm wondering why you report it *here*. Sure, it's interesting, but did you consider opening a bug report at the autoconf site? nd -- die (eval q-qq:Just Another Perl Hacker :-) # André Malo, http://pub.perlig.de/

Re: Why bundling 3rd-party packages anyway ? [WAS: A zLib Update....?]

2004-12-13 Thread André Malo
* Enrico Weigelt wrote: * André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why is pcre bundled anyway ? Other packages (ie zlib or expat) are also not bundled, so why pcre ? vendor branch. how does it answer my question ? It gives you a piece of information, that you

Re: yet another autoconf torture

2004-12-13 Thread Paul Querna
Enrico Weigelt wrote: hi folks, when trying to crosscompile apache, it breaks in libapr configure: cannot check setpgrp when crosscompiling So crosscompiling seems to be impossible. I've tested it on 2.0.49 up to 2.0.52. uhm. cross compiling from what to what?