Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Gregg L. Smith
Hi Bill, I know this, even better now ;) ... will remember to pay more attention. Since I have your eyes yet again, makefile.win wants to copy pcre.pdb but my out-of-tree pcre does not include that file, the .dll is there, not the pdb. Can this made to make noise only and not stop the copy pr

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Gregg L. Smith wrote: > Hello again, > > While were at it. > I dropped in APR/Util 1.3.9 and had a go at it. > Compiling... > util_ldap.c > E:\build\httpd-2.3.3-alpha\modules\ldap\util_ldap.c(2667) : error C2065: > 'AP_LDAP_OPT_DEBUG' : undeclared identifier This looks like a purely httpd error;

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Gregg L. Smith
Hello again, While were at it. I dropped in APR/Util 1.3.9 and had a go at it. I'll guess this error is because of it but in case it isn't; Configuration: mod_ldap - Win32 Release Compiling resources... Compiling... util_ldap.c E:\build\httpd-2.3.3-alpha\

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Dumpleton
2009/11/12 Paul Querna : > Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.3-alpha are available at: >     > > Your votes please; > >  +/- 1 >  [  ]  Release httpd-2.3.3 as Alpha > > Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Sunday November 15 2009. > > Thanks, > > Paul > What APR/APR-UTIL

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Gregg L. Smith
Sorry bout that, I always try first with VS6 SP6 SDK 2003R2 I'm more curious why it is trying to build the 'unix' file in the first place since there is a Win32 alternative Gregg William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Gregg L. Smith wrote: Hello, I did not get far Generating Code... socket_util.c E:

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
> E:\build\httpd-2.3.3-alpha\srclib\apr\network_io\unix\socket_util.c(21) > : error C2373: 'apr_socket_atreadeof' : redefinition; different type > modifiers > ./include\apr_network_io.h(362) : see declaration of > 'apr_socket_atreadeof' This is probably nothing but missing/mismatched APR_D

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Gregg L. Smith wrote: > Hello, > > I did not get far > > Generating Code... > socket_util.c > E:\build\httpd-2.3.3-alpha\srclib\apr\network_io\unix\socket_util.c(21) > : error C2373: 'apr_socket_atreadeof' : redefinition; different type > modifiers > ./include\apr_network_io.h(362) : see

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Gregg L. Smith
Hello, I did not get far inet_pton.c multicast.c Generating Code... Compiling... socket_util.c E:\build\httpd-2.3.3-alpha\srclib\apr\network_io\unix\socket_util.c(21) : error C2373: 'apr_socket_atreadeof' : redefinition; different type modifiers ./include\apr_network_io.h(362) : see de

Re: Obsolete modules in 2.3

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Greg Stein wrote: >> FWIW I know of one customer who absolutely continues to use mod_imagemap and >> have no indication they plan to drop it. >> >> modules/historical/ might be a good waypoint to eliminating these. Enabling >> them should emit a warning they are no longer interesting and likely to

Re: Obsolete modules in 2.3

2009-11-11 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 23:21, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Rich Bowen wrote: >> Don't you think that maybe it's time to drop mod_imagemap and mod_cern_meta? >> >> "there is already a large number of CERN users who can exploit this module." >> >> Seriously? > > LOL > > FWIW I know of one customer

Re: Obsolete modules in 2.3

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Rich Bowen wrote: > Don't you think that maybe it's time to drop mod_imagemap and mod_cern_meta? > > "there is already a large number of CERN users who can exploit this module." > > Seriously? LOL FWIW I know of one customer who absolutely continues to use mod_imagemap and have no indication th

Re: Httpd 3.0 or something else

2009-11-11 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 15:00, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Greg Stein wrote: >> Right. But they don't have the depth/breadth of modules like we do. > > ... yet. Keep going, but if there are great things like lighttpd and nginx > (and ev

Re: Obsolete modules in 2.3

2009-11-11 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 20:56, Rich Bowen wrote: > Don't you think that maybe it's time to drop mod_imagemap and mod_cern_meta? > "there is already a large number of CERN users who can exploit this module." > Seriously? I say "hell yes". And my response to a user would be "you want that? fine. i

Re: dav_new_error_*() and errno, revisit before 2.4 GA

2009-11-11 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 20:09, Jeff Trawick wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:11, Jeff Trawick wrote: >>> At present, whatever was in errno at the time the dav_error {} was >>> created is treated as an apr_status_t by ap_log_rerror(). >>> >

Re: 2.3.3 on Mac OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > Built 2.3.3 on Mac OS X 10.5.8 with: > > "./configure" \ > "--enable-modules=most" \ > "--enable-mods-shared=all" \ > "--with-mpm=event" \ > "--prefix=/usr/local/apache" \ > > > and got this on startup: > > [Wed Nov 11 20:56:15 2009] [crit] (700

2.3.3 on Mac OS X

2009-11-11 Thread Rich Bowen
Built 2.3.3 on Mac OS X 10.5.8 with: "./configure" \ "--enable-modules=most" \ "--enable-mods-shared=all" \ "--with-mpm=event" \ "--prefix=/usr/local/apache" \ and got this on startup: [Wed Nov 11 20:56:15 2009] [crit] (70023)This function has not been implemented on this platform: Couldn't

Re: Obsolete modules in 2.3

2009-11-11 Thread Nick Kew
On 12 Nov 2009, at 01:56, Rich Bowen wrote: > Don't you think that maybe it's time to drop mod_imagemap and mod_cern_meta? > > "there is already a large number of CERN users who can exploit this module." > > Seriously? mod_imagemap is a perfectly good application module, albeit a minority inte

Obsolete modules in 2.3

2009-11-11 Thread Rich Bowen
Don't you think that maybe it's time to drop mod_imagemap and mod_cern_meta? "there is already a large number of CERN users who can exploit this module." Seriously? -- Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Querna
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Paul Querna wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Paul Querna wrote: >> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.3-alpha are available at: >>     >> >> Your votes please; >> >>  +/- 1 >>  [  ]  Release httpd-2.3.3 as Alpha >> >> V

Re: dav_new_error_*() and errno, revisit before 2.4 GA

2009-11-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:11, Jeff Trawick wrote: >> At present, whatever was in errno at the time the dav_error {} was >> created is treated as an apr_status_t by ap_log_rerror(). >> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-dev/20021

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Querna
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Paul Querna wrote: > Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.3-alpha are available at: >     > > Your votes please; > >  +/- 1 >  [  ]  Release httpd-2.3.3 as Alpha > > Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Sunday November 15 2009. > www.apach

Re: dav_new_error_*() and errno, revisit before 2.4 GA

2009-11-11 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:11, Jeff Trawick wrote: > At present, whatever was in errno at the time the dav_error {} was > created is treated as an apr_status_t by ap_log_rerror(). > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-dev/200211.mbox/%3c20021101033848.b29...@lyra.org%3e > > dav_error

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Paul Querna wrote: > > the -deps package does not contain PCRE at all. The only software > contained inside the -deps package is APR and APR-Util, so I am not > quite sure what your comment about PCRE 8 is referencing. Didn't realize that was dropped... ...if we presume sense and sensibility of

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Querna
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Paul Querna wrote: >> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.3-alpha are available at: >>     >> >> Your votes please; >> >>  +/- 1 >>  [  ]  Release httpd-2.3.3 as Alpha > > -1 for bundled package httpd

dav_new_error_*() and errno, revisit before 2.4 GA

2009-11-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
At present, whatever was in errno at the time the dav_error {} was created is treated as an apr_status_t by ap_log_rerror(). http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-dev/200211.mbox/%3c20021101033848.b29...@lyra.org%3e dav_error {} should have an apr_status_t field instead of an errno field

Re: svn commit: r835046 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_init.c

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Ruediger Pluem wrote: > >>> Silly question; this breaks all 0.9.7 builds, right? Is that deliberate? >> It shouldn't. Does it (no 0.9.7 at hand right now)? > No it doesn't: > > --- httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_toolkit_compat.h (original) > +++ httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_toolkit_compa

Re: intend to roll 2.3 alpha on Wednesday

2009-11-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Paul Querna wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. >> wrote: >>> Graham Leggett wrote: Paul Querna wrote: > I intend to roll a 2.3 alpha release on Wednesday November 11th. >>> +1 >>> > I will

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 11/11/2009 08:54 PM, Paul Querna wrote: > Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.3-alpha are available at: > > > Your votes please; > > +/- 1 > [ ] Release httpd-2.3.3 as Alpha > > Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Sunday November 15 2009. -1: mod_ssl does

Re: intend to roll 2.3 alpha on Wednesday

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Querna
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Paul Querna wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. >> wrote: >>> Graham Leggett wrote: Paul Querna wrote: > I intend to roll a 2.3 alpha release on Wednesday November 11th. >>> +1 >>> > I wil

Re: svn commit: r835046 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_init.c

2009-11-11 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 11/11/2009 09:45 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > On 11/11/2009 09:38 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> rpl...@apache.org wrote: >>> Author: rpluem >>> Date: Wed Nov 11 20:27:10 2009 >>> New Revision: 835046 >>> >>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=835046&view=rev >>> Log: >>> * Use correct

Re: svn commit: r835046 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_init.c

2009-11-11 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 11/11/2009 09:38 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > rpl...@apache.org wrote: >> Author: rpluem >> Date: Wed Nov 11 20:27:10 2009 >> New Revision: 835046 >> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=835046&view=rev >> Log: >> * Use correct #ifndef's to compile again on openssl 0.9.8 and fix compil

Re: svn commit: r835046 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_init.c

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
rpl...@apache.org wrote: > Author: rpluem > Date: Wed Nov 11 20:27:10 2009 > New Revision: 835046 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=835046&view=rev > Log: > * Use correct #ifndef's to compile again on openssl 0.9.8 and fix compiler > warnings. > ap_log_error(APLOG_MARK, APLOG_E

Re: [VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Paul Querna wrote: > Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.3-alpha are available at: > > > Your votes please; > > +/- 1 > [ ] Release httpd-2.3.3 as Alpha -1 for bundled package httpd-2.3.3-alpha-deps - in fact this isn't up to date w.r.t. pcre 8. Otherw

Re: intend to roll 2.3 alpha on Wednesday

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Paul Querna wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. > wrote: >> Graham Leggett wrote: >>> Paul Querna wrote: >>> I intend to roll a 2.3 alpha release on Wednesday November 11th. >> +1 >> I will bundle APR from the 1.4.x branch. (APR people should make a releas

Re: Httpd 3.0 or something else

2009-11-11 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Greg Stein wrote: > Right. But they don't have the depth/breadth of modules like we do. ... yet. Keep going, but if there are great things like lighttpd and nginx (and even more) http daemons out there, then that means more than one thing is wrong

Re: intend to roll 2.3 alpha on Wednesday

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Querna
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Graham Leggett wrote: >> Paul Querna wrote: >> >>> I intend to roll a 2.3 alpha release on Wednesday November 11th. > > +1 > >>> I will bundle APR from the 1.4.x branch. (APR people should make a >>> release, but this shouldn't be a bl

Re: intend to roll 2.3 alpha on Wednesday

2009-11-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Graham Leggett wrote: > Paul Querna wrote: > >> I intend to roll a 2.3 alpha release on Wednesday November 11th. +1 >> I will bundle APR from the 1.4.x branch. (APR people should make a >> release, but this shouldn't be a blocker for our own alpha releases). Major problem; don't do this. You a

[VOTE] release 2.3.3 as alpha

2009-11-11 Thread Paul Querna
Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.3-alpha are available at: Your votes please; +/- 1 [ ] Release httpd-2.3.3 as Alpha Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Sunday November 15 2009. Thanks, Paul

Re: Httpd 3.0 or something else

2009-11-11 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 14:14, Akins, Brian wrote: > On 11/10/09 6:20 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote: > >> I'd like to see a few "network" threads multiplexing all the writing >> to clients. > > That's what I meant. I just didn't state it properly. > > >> Then take all of *that*, and spread it across sev

Re: Httpd 3.0 or something else

2009-11-11 Thread Akins, Brian
On 11/10/09 6:20 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote: > I'd like to see a few "network" threads multiplexing all the writing > to clients. That's what I meant. I just didn't state it properly. > Then take all of *that*, and spread it across several processes for > solid uptime, with a master monitor proc

Re: Re: mod_fcgid: add mod_status support?

2009-11-11 Thread pqf
> > Jeff Trawick wrote: > > 2009/11/9 pqf : > >> Hi, all > >>I am new to this community, I am think to add mod_status support to > >> mod_fcgid, which provide more internal information to administrators. Is > >> it a good idea? I am working on it now, but if someone think it's not a > >> g

Re: svn commit: r834900 - in /httpd/mod_fcgid/trunk: Makefile.apxs configure.apxs

2009-11-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM, wrote: > Author: trawick > Date: Wed Nov 11 15:13:31 2009 > New Revision: 834900 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=834900&view=rev > Log: > Follow up the awk compatibility fix in r834729 by selecting the most > suitable awk, following the AC_PROG_AWK orde

Re: Httpd 3.0 or something else

2009-11-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: > William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > >>> - Supporting prefork as httpd does now; and >> >> I'm very happy to see prefork die it's timely death. >> >> Let's go about working out where out-of-process magic happens. >> Gated, single threaded handlers m

Re: intend to roll 2.3 alpha on Wednesday

2009-11-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Paul Querna wrote: > Hello dev@, > > I intend to roll a 2.3 alpha release on Wednesday November 11th. > +1 > I will bundle APR from the 1.4.x branch. (APR people should make a > release, but this shouldn't be a blocker for our own alpha releases). > +1 > I am a

Re: Httpd 3.0 or something else

2009-11-11 Thread Bojan Smojver
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 13:09 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: > Apache httpd does lots of things right. > > We must resist the temptation to throw out what we do right, while we > try move forward fixing what we do wrong. And there is also a reason why Google's Chome is essentially (pre)fork. This mod

Re: Httpd 3.0 or something else

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Leggett
William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> - Supporting prefork as httpd does now; and > > I'm very happy to see prefork die it's timely death. > > Let's go about working out where out-of-process magic happens. > Gated, single threaded handlers may be sensible in some cases. > But for the core server it make

Re: [PATCH] mod_ssl: improving session caching for SNI configurations

2009-11-11 Thread Kaspar Brand
Joe Orton wrote: > 1) why do we need a new config directive for session ticket support? > I'm struggling to understand why any server admin would need/want > control over support for session tickets. Session tickets are a relatively new thing (RFC 4507 is from May 2006), and I'm not sure how we