Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-12-26 Thread Michael Felt
When I am involved in Security questions I try to discuss security breaches in terms of confidentiality, integrity and availability. If something is suppossed to be confidential, but a workaround makes it not so - it is a security breach; idem for integrity - a workaround makes it possible to

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-12-26 Thread Michael Felt
Hence - my vote - for what it is worth: [X] Represents a security defect On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote: On 19 Nov 2011, at 12:38 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-12-26 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 12/26/2011 3:24 PM, Michael Felt wrote: Hence - my vote - for what it is worth: That's understood, but the vote was concluded, and the votes by the project committee members indicated a very clear consensus is that it would not be possible to provide for untrusted .htaccess files, in spite of

Re: [Result] [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 03:25:09AM -0600, William Rowe wrote: On 11/18/2011 4:38 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the following

[Result] [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-12-20 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/18/2011 4:38 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the following statement... Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the form of

RE: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-21 Thread Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group
-Original Message- From: Stefan Fritsch [mailto:s...@sfritsch.de] Sent: Samstag, 19. November 2011 03:37 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse On Friday 18 November 2011, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the form

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-21 Thread Joe Orton
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 04:38:14PM -0600, William Rowe wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the following statement... Thanks for the prod! Resource abuse of an

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 21/11/2011 18:19, Joe Orton wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 04:38:14PM -0600, William Rowe wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the following statement...

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-21 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 11/21/2011 10:19 AM, Joe Orton wrote: I agree for resource consumption attacks. I think there's still a good case for treating bugs which allow escalation of privileges as security issues (i.e. something which gets you from an .htaccess file to arbitrary code execution in the httpd child).

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-19 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 19/11/2011 00:38, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the form of cpu/memory/bandwidth; [ ] Represents a security defect [X] Is not a security defect The sysadmin knows best. If it's a problem, disable it (or the problematic type of directives via

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.11.2011 17:44, schrieb Issac Goldstand: On 19/11/2011 00:38, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the form of cpu/memory/bandwidth; [ ] Represents a security defect [X] Is not a security defect The sysadmin knows best. If it's a problem, disable

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-19 Thread Eric Covener
Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the form of cpu/memory/bandwidth;  [ ]  Represents a security defect  [x ]  Is not a security defect No fine-grained controls on htaccess, we only provide the means to delegate entire classes of directive.

[Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-18 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the following statement... Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the form of cpu/memory/bandwidth; [ ] Represents a security

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-18 Thread Graham Leggett
On 19 Nov 2011, at 12:38 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the following statement... Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 01:46 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On 19 Nov 2011, at 12:38 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: After several prods, it seems the security@ and hackathon participants can't be drawn out of their shells on to dev@. So I'll simply call for a majority vote on the

Re: [Vote] .htaccess logic abuse

2011-11-18 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Friday 18 November 2011, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Resource abuse of an .htaccess config in the form of cpu/memory/bandwidth; [ ] Represents a security defect [X] Is not a security defect This would obviously need to be clarified in the associated .htaccess documentation, be