Re: Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-03-03 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Alexey Kuznetsov wrote: > How about odd/even releases? > Odd releases will contain new/experimental features. > Even releases - stable/bug fix releases. > I think it will get confusing. Do you know other projects that have the same practice? > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2

Re: Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-03-03 Thread Alexey Kuznetsov
How about odd/even releases? Odd releases will contain new/experimental features. Even releases - stable/bug fix releases. On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Yakov Zhdanov wrote: > > > Roman, this is not about early and frequent releases,

Re: Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-03-03 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Yakov Zhdanov wrote: > Roman, this is not about early and frequent releases, but about special > beta releases. > > I agree with Dmitry and Pavel that we do not need such releases, but need > to mark somehow that feature is experimental: > - add notice to javadocs

Re: Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-03-03 Thread Yakov Zhdanov
Roman, this is not about early and frequent releases, but about special beta releases. I agree with Dmitry and Pavel that we do not need such releases, but need to mark somehow that feature is experimental: - add notice to javadocs and readmeio docs (as Dmitry suggested) - add warning output to lo

Re: Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-03-03 Thread Roman Shtykh
I like Vladimir's idea.It is particularly useful when we implement integrations with other systems. Releasing them early and, if needed, oftenly, may attract more users of those systems and give advantages over competitors. -Roman On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:01 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wr

Re: Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-03-01 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
In my opinion, if a certain feature is experimental, we should simply mention it in the release notes and/or documentation. I would not create a separate beta release just for a certain feature. D. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Pavel Tupitsyn wrote: > Hi, > > I don't think that features like

Re: Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-03-01 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Hi, I don't think that features like LINQ and ODBC need the same approach as IDEA EAP. IntelliJ has EAP because new features may have bugs or usability issues. With LINQ and ODBC our main concern are not bugs, but unsupported use cases that we did not think of. Known use cases are covered with tes

Beta-releases for particular features.

2016-02-29 Thread Vladimir Ozerov
Igniters, I want to circulate again an idea of "betas" for particular product features. For now we have several pretty cool features which are to be released soon: ODBC driver and LINQ in .NET. Features like this include potentially infinite amount of use cases and of course we cannot test all of