[jira] [Commented] (JENA-1473) SKOS inference with Jena

2018-02-05 Thread Andy Seaborne (JIRA)

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Andy Seaborne commented on JENA-1473:
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Please use the users mailing list.



> SKOS inference with Jena
> 
>
> Key: JENA-1473
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-1473
> Project: Apache Jena
>  Issue Type: Question
>Reporter: gillesh
>Priority: Minor
>
> Hi,
> I am looking for some advices on how best infer triples related to SKOS.
> The reasoners provided by Jena are only related to OWL and RDFS.
> I currently don't need the whole SKOS vocabulary. For the moment, I mainly 
> need skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:altLabel but I may need others in 
> the future.
> What would be a clean way to get the triples I want using Jena and SPARQL 
> queries ?
> Create rules and use the general purpose rule engine of Jena 
> ([documentation|https://jena.apache.org/documentation/inference/#rules])?
> I never did any manual inference for the moment so I am quite confused about 
> all this.
> Any help/resources pointing to the right direction would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> Thank you.



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[jira] [Commented] (JENA-1473) SKOS inference with Jena

2018-02-04 Thread gillesh (JIRA)

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gillesh commented on JENA-1473:
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Hi,

one last question before asking on the mailing list.

I created the relevant rules for the SKOS properties I want to infer so I have 
my generic rules reasoner that does what I want. For my input models, I need to 
also do the OWL inference.

Is it possible to have both reasoners active on the same model during the 
inference ? Currently, I use the OWL reasoner to create a model and then I use 
the SKOS generic rule reasoner on the created model but I would like to know if 
it was possible to extend the OWL reasoner with the few SKOS rules I need and 
infer my models with a single reasoner Jena OWL + skos.

This seems to be possible ([Jena inference 
doc|[https://jena.apache.org/documentation/inference/#OWLexamples]] using 
bindSchema. I would just need to create a RDF file describing my SKOS rules and 
bind the schema to the OWL reasoner, is that correct or is there a better way?

Thanks again for your help.

> SKOS inference with Jena
> 
>
> Key: JENA-1473
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-1473
> Project: Apache Jena
>  Issue Type: Question
>Reporter: gillesh
>Priority: Minor
>
> Hi,
> I am looking for some advices on how best infer triples related to SKOS.
> The reasoners provided by Jena are only related to OWL and RDFS.
> I currently don't need the whole SKOS vocabulary. For the moment, I mainly 
> need skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:altLabel but I may need others in 
> the future.
> What would be a clean way to get the triples I want using Jena and SPARQL 
> queries ?
> Create rules and use the general purpose rule engine of Jena 
> ([documentation|https://jena.apache.org/documentation/inference/#rules])?
> I never did any manual inference for the moment so I am quite confused about 
> all this.
> Any help/resources pointing to the right direction would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> Thank you.



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[jira] [Commented] (JENA-1473) SKOS inference with Jena

2018-02-01 Thread Osma Suominen (JIRA)

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Osma Suominen commented on JENA-1473:
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Possibly relevant for you: [https://github.com/NatLibFi/Skosify]

Skosify does SKOS inference, validation and fixes many common issues. Nowadays 
these functionalities are separated into modules. But this is based on Python 
and rdflib, not Jena.

(originally written by myself, nowadays co-maintained also by others)

> SKOS inference with Jena
> 
>
> Key: JENA-1473
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-1473
> Project: Apache Jena
>  Issue Type: Question
>Reporter: gillesh
>Priority: Minor
>
> Hi,
> I am looking for some advices on how best infer triples related to SKOS.
> The reasoners provided by Jena are only related to OWL and RDFS.
> I currently don't need the whole SKOS vocabulary. For the moment, I mainly 
> need skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:altLabel but I may need others in 
> the future.
> What would be a clean way to get the triples I want using Jena and SPARQL 
> queries ?
> Create rules and use the general purpose rule engine of Jena 
> ([documentation|https://jena.apache.org/documentation/inference/#rules])?
> I never did any manual inference for the moment so I am quite confused about 
> all this.
> Any help/resources pointing to the right direction would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> Thank you.



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[jira] [Commented] (JENA-1473) SKOS inference with Jena

2018-02-01 Thread gillesh (JIRA)

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gillesh commented on JENA-1473:
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Hi Andy and Dave,

I create custom rules for skos:broader and skos:narrower and I am now using the 
generic rule reasoner from Jena and this does the job.

I don't have control of the data so I need to infer these properties. I looked 
into all the input metadata and we don't have the properties narrowerTransitive 
and broaderTransitive.

Thank you for the help.

> SKOS inference with Jena
> 
>
> Key: JENA-1473
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-1473
> Project: Apache Jena
>  Issue Type: Question
>Reporter: gillesh
>Priority: Minor
>
> Hi,
> I am looking for some advices on how best infer triples related to SKOS.
> The reasoners provided by Jena are only related to OWL and RDFS.
> I currently don't need the whole SKOS vocabulary. For the moment, I mainly 
> need skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:altLabel but I may need others in 
> the future.
> What would be a clean way to get the triples I want using Jena and SPARQL 
> queries ?
> Create rules and use the general purpose rule engine of Jena 
> ([documentation|https://jena.apache.org/documentation/inference/#rules])?
> I never did any manual inference for the moment so I am quite confused about 
> all this.
> Any help/resources pointing to the right direction would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> Thank you.



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[jira] [Commented] (JENA-1473) SKOS inference with Jena

2018-01-31 Thread Andy Seaborne (JIRA)

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Andy Seaborne commented on JENA-1473:
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[~gillesh] -- You'll probably have more success with questions if you use the 
user mailing list {{us...@jena.apache.org}}.

For subscription details:

https://jena.apache.org/help_and_support/index.html

> SKOS inference with Jena
> 
>
> Key: JENA-1473
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-1473
> Project: Apache Jena
>  Issue Type: Question
>Reporter: gillesh
>Priority: Minor
>
> Hi,
> I am looking for some advices on how best infer triples related to SKOS.
> The reasoners provided by Jena are only related to OWL and RDFS.
> I currently don't need the whole SKOS vocabulary. For the moment, I mainly 
> need skos:broader, skos:narrower and skos:altLabel but I may need others in 
> the future.
> What would be a clean way to get the triples I want using Jena and SPARQL 
> queries ?
> Create rules and use the general purpose rule engine of Jena 
> ([documentation|https://jena.apache.org/documentation/inference/#rules])?
> I never did any manual inference for the moment so I am quite confused about 
> all this.
> Any help/resources pointing to the right direction would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> Thank you.



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