Re: [VOTE] - Graduate Apache Joshua (incubating) as a TLP

[Chris Mattmann]

+1 binding.

 

Go Joshua Go!

 

Cheers,
Chris

 

 

 

 

From: Tommaso Teofili 
Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Date: Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:54 AM
To: "gene...@incubator.apache.org" 
Cc: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Subject: [VOTE] - Graduate Apache Joshua (incubating) as a TLP

 

Hi all,

 

 

The Apache Joshua podling PMC would like the project to graduate to a TLP.

Joshua entered Incubation on February 13th, 2016.

The 6.1 release was the first one done within ASF as an Incubator

project, the PPMC has grown since incubation start.

 

Vote:

[ ] +1 - Recommend Graduation of Apache Joshua as a TLP

[ ] -1 - Do not recommend graduation of Apache Joshua because ….

 

 

The Graduation Proposal was written, discussed and voted on the

project dev@ list [1,2] and here on general@ [3]. As per

recommendations made in [3], the By-Laws Clause was removed [4].

The final resolution can be found at [5].

 

 

Regards,

Tommaso

 

 

[1] : 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2687c75696b61344dadf085c1f48443f71baaf88a9b012f86c35d2e6@%3Cdev.joshua.apache.org%3E

[2] : 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ef1f4a9919f56979507fae749af691acb011e9ca7da9bc64bbfc8aa@%3Cdev.joshua.apache.org%3E

[3] : 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6c274f2ec6261828c636e950447a2c7d926bcc91f95cc10f183690a7@%3Cdev.joshua.apache.org%3E

[4] : 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7bd8bb062c96cde65c4d7fd4dd1310aed0169d5922b40ec78216d161@%3Cdev.joshua.apache.org%3E

[5] :

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best

 

interests of the Foundation and consistent with the

 

Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management

 

Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of

 

open-source software, for distribution at no charge to

 

the public, related to statistical and other forms of machine

 

translation.

 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management

 

Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Joshua Project",

 

be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the

 

Foundation; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby is

 

responsible for the creation and maintenance of software

 

related to statistical and other forms of machine translation;

 

and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Joshua" be

 

and hereby is created, the person holding such office to

 

serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair

 

of the Apache Joshua Project, and to have primary responsibility

 

for management of the projects within the scope of

 

responsibility of the Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and

 

hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the

 

 

Apache Joshua Project:

 

 

* Tom Barber  

 

 

* Thamme Gowda

 

 

* Felix Hieber

 

 

* Lewis John McGibbney

 

 

* Chris Mattmann  

 

 

* Matt Post   

 

 

* Paul Ramirez

 

 

* Henry Saputra   

 

 

* Kellen Sunderland   

 

 

* Tommaso Teofili 

 

 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Tommaso Teofili

 

be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Joshua to

 

serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the

 

Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until

 

death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,

 

or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby

 

is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache

 

Incubator Joshua podling; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache

 

Incubator Joshua podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator

 

Project are hereafter discharged.

 

Re: [DISCUSS] - Graduation of Apache Joshua

[Chris Mattmann]

I agree, this makes sense to me.

 

 

 

 

From: Tommaso Teofili 
Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 6:46 AM
To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Subject: Fwd: [DISCUSS] - Graduation of Apache Joshua

 

FYI

 

I think we just used an outdated template for the graduation board resolution.

I'd start a VOTE on general@incubator with the mentioned section

removed if you all agree.

 

Regards,

Tommaso

 

-- Forwarded message -

From: Pierre Smits 

Date: ven 14 set 2018 alle ore 11:42

Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Graduation of Apache Joshua

To: 

 

 

Of course the PPMC decides what they want to bring forward to the IPMC to

vote on, after the conclusion of this thread.

 

IMO: If you all agree, you can just eliminate it from the content of the

upcoming '[VOTE] - Graduation of Apache Joshua' thread.

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Pierre Smits

 

*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*

*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*

Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer

*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)

since 2008*

Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer

 

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Tommaso Teofili  ha scritto:

 

> Given the recent discussions regarding project by-laws in this ml and

> elsewhere, is the following element

> 

> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Joshua PMC be and hereby is

> 

> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to

> 

> encourage open development and increased participation in the

> 

> Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

> 

> intentional or just a copy-paste remnant from another graduation

> proposal/template?

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Best regards,

> 

> Pierre Smits

> 

> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*

> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*

> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer

> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without

privileges)

> since 2008*

> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer

> 

> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Tommaso Teofili <

> tommaso.teof...@gmail.com

> > wrote:

> 

> > Dear all,

> >

> > at Apache Joshua podling we discussed and voted a while back for the

> > graduation of the project to TLP [1]. It then took a while to take it

up

> to

> > the next step of coming up with a draft resolution [2] and bring it to

> this

> > list.

> > So please help us drive Apache Joshua to TLP.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tommaso

> >

> > [1] : https://markmail.org/message/j36u7q7z6fqc7svi

> > [2] :

> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best

> >

> > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the

> >

> > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management

> >

> > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of

> >

> > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to

> >

> > the public, related to statistical and other forms of machine

> >

> > translation.

> >

> >

> >

> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management

> >

> > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Joshua Project",

> >

> > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the

> >

> > Foundation; and be it further

> >

> >

> >

> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby is

> >

> > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software

> >

> > related to statistical and other forms of machine translation;

> >

> > and be it further

> >

> >

> >

> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Joshua" be

> >

> > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to

> >

> > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair

> >

> > of the Apache Joshua Project, and to have primary responsibility

> >

> > for management of the projects within the scope of

> >

> > responsibility of the Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

> >

> >

> >

> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and

> >

> > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the

> >

> > Apache Joshua Project:

> >

> >

> >

> > * Tom Barber   

> >

> > * Thamme Gowda

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

[Chris Mattmann]

OK, I think Tommaso would make a great chair. Here’s a revised resolution:

 

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best

interests of the Foundation and consistent with the

Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management

Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of

open-source software, for distribution at no charge to

the public, related to statistical and other forms of machine 

translation.

 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management

Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Joshua Project",

be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the

Foundation; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby is

responsible for the creation and maintenance of software

related to statistical and other forms of machine translation;

and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Joshua" be

and hereby is created, the person holding such office to

serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair

of the Apache Joshua Project, and to have primary responsibility

for management of the projects within the scope of

responsibility of the Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and

hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the

Apache Joshua Project:

 

* Tom Barber  

* Thamme Gowda   

* Felix Hieber 

* Lewis John McGibbney     

* Chris Mattmann 

* Matt Post 

* Paul Ramirez   

* Henry Saputra    

* Kellen Sunderland 

* Tommaso Teofili    

 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Tommaso Teofili 

be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Joshua to

serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the

Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until

death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,

or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Joshua PMC be and hereby is

tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to

encourage open development and increased participation in the

Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby

is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache

Incubator Joshua podling; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache

Incubator Joshua podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator

Project are hereafter discharged.

 

 

 

 

From: Tommaso Teofili 
Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Date: Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 2:37 PM
To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

 

that would be fine for me, unless anyone else is willing to take over.

 

Regards,

Tommaso

 

Il giorno gio 6 set 2018 alle ore 17:56 Chris Mattmann 

ha scritto:

 

Matt,

 

 

 

Thanks for following up here. I understand.

 

 

 

Tommaso, would you be interested in being the chair of the project?

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

From: Matt Post 

Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" <

dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org>

Date: Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM

To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 

Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

 

 

 

Hi folks,

 

 

 

It is fine with me if you want to move to graduation, but at this point I

will assert that I don't have the time to contribute, and do not wish to be

involved as a committee member once that threshold is crossed. It has been

a good run and I have only fond associations with the project, but it is

time for me to move on, and I wish you all the best.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Matt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sep 6, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Chris Mattmann  wrote:

 

Coming back to this.

 

Sorry it took so long :/

 

Here is a proposed graduation template. I will call for a VOTE on it

 

by mid-next week once the discussion comes to consensus.

 

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best

 

interests of the Foundation and consistent with the

 

Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management

 

Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of

 

open-source software, for distribution at no charge to

 

the public, related to statistical and other forms of machine

 

translation.

 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management

 

Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Joshua Project",

 

be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the

 

Foundation; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby is

 

respons

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

[Chris Mattmann]

Matt,

 

Thanks for following up here. I understand.

 

Tommaso, would you be interested in being the chair of the project?

 

Cheers,

Chris

 

 

From: Matt Post 
Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Date: Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM
To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

 

Hi folks,

 

It is fine with me if you want to move to graduation, but at this point I will 
assert that I don't have the time to contribute, and do not wish to be involved 
as a committee member once that threshold is crossed. It has been a good run 
and I have only fond associations with the project, but it is time for me to 
move on, and I wish you all the best.

 

Sincerely,

Matt

 

 

 

On Sep 6, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Chris Mattmann  wrote:

Coming back to this.

Sorry it took so long :/

Here is a proposed graduation template. I will call for a VOTE on it 

by mid-next week once the discussion comes to consensus. 

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best

interests of the Foundation and consistent with the

Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management

Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of

open-source software, for distribution at no charge to

the public, related to statistical and other forms of machine 

translation.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management

Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Joshua Project",

be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the

Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby is

responsible for the creation and maintenance of software

related to statistical and other forms of machine translation;

and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Joshua" be

and hereby is created, the person holding such office to

serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair

of the Apache Joshua Project, and to have primary responsibility

for management of the projects within the scope of

responsibility of the Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and

hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the

Apache Joshua Project:

* Tom Barber  

* Thamme Gowda   

* Felix Hieber 

* Lewis John McGibbney 

* Chris Mattmann 

* Matt Post 

* Paul Ramirez   

* Henry Saputra

* Kellen Sunderland 

* Tommaso Teofili

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Post

be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Joshua to

serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the

Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until

death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,

or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Joshua PMC be and hereby is

tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to

encourage open development and increased participation in the

Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby

is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache

Incubator Joshua podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache

Incubator Joshua podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator

Project are hereafter discharged.

Cheers,

Chris

From: Thamme Gowda 

Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 

Date: Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:51 PM

To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 

Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

Great news!

2018-02-01 19:48 GMT-08:00 Mattmann, Chris A (1761) <

chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>:

+1 I’ll draft the resolution and send shortly for community vote

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 1, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Tom Barber  wrote:

I'd just like to dig this one back. Seeing how Matt accepted the

proposal and there is action from Tommaso and Lewis to get stuff merged,

it seems like there is general consensus to get Joshua out of the incubator.

Tom

On 06/10/17 06:03, Matt Post wrote:

Thanks Tommaso. Though, I should say, initial thanks goes to Zhifei Li.

I just took it over.

I think I can stick around in the capacity Chris suggests. Thanks, all.

matt

On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Tommaso Teofili <

tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 to Chris's proposal.

Let me also add my thanks to you Matt for making Joshua happen in first

place and for bringing it to the ASF and involving me and the rest of

the

team in such an interesting piece of sw and to machine translation in

general. I do understand the need for you to move into the NMT stuff

but at

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

[Chris Mattmann]

Coming back to this.

 

Sorry it took so long :/

 

Here is a proposed graduation template. I will call for a VOTE on it 
by mid-next week once the discussion comes to consensus. 

 

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best

interests of the Foundation and consistent with the

Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management

Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of

open-source software, for distribution at no charge to

the public, related to statistical and other forms of machine 
translation.

 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management

Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Joshua Project",

be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the

Foundation; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby is

responsible for the creation and maintenance of software

related to statistical and other forms of machine translation;

and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Joshua" be

and hereby is created, the person holding such office to

serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair

of the Apache Joshua Project, and to have primary responsibility

for management of the projects within the scope of

responsibility of the Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and

hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the

Apache Joshua Project:

 

* Tom Barber  

* Thamme Gowda   

* Felix Hieber 

* Lewis John McGibbney     

* Chris Mattmann 

* Matt Post 

* Paul Ramirez   

* Henry Saputra    

* Kellen Sunderland     

* Tommaso Teofili    

 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Post

be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Joshua to

serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the

Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until

death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,

or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Joshua PMC be and hereby is

tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to

encourage open development and increased participation in the

Apache Joshua Project; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that the Apache Joshua Project be and hereby

is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache

Incubator Joshua podling; and be it further

 

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache

Incubator Joshua podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator

Project are hereafter discharged.

 

Cheers,

Chris

 

 

 

From: Thamme Gowda 
Reply-To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Date: Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:51 PM
To: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org" 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

 

Great news!

 

2018-02-01 19:48 GMT-08:00 Mattmann, Chris A (1761) <

chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>:

 

+1 I’ll draft the resolution and send shortly for community vote

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Tom Barber  wrote:

> 

> I'd just like to dig this one back. Seeing how Matt accepted the

proposal and there is action from Tommaso and Lewis to get stuff merged,

it seems like there is general consensus to get Joshua out of the incubator.

> 

> Tom

> 

>> On 06/10/17 06:03, Matt Post wrote:

>> Thanks Tommaso. Though, I should say, initial thanks goes to Zhifei Li.

I just took it over.

>> 

>> I think I can stick around in the capacity Chris suggests. Thanks, all.

>> 

>> matt

>> 

>>> On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Tommaso Teofili <

tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> +1 to Chris's proposal.

>>> 

>>> Let me also add my thanks to you Matt for making Joshua happen in first

>>> place and for bringing it to the ASF and involving me and the rest of

the

>>> team in such an interesting piece of sw and to machine translation in

>>> general. I do understand the need for you to move into the NMT stuff

but at

>>> the same time I think Joshua is a very good resource (given also the so

>>> many language packs available) for people and / or projects that want

to

>>> start with MT having reasonably good results so I can still see its

value.

>>> 

>>> My 2 cents,

>>> Tommaso

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Il giorno mar 26 set 2017 alle ore 18:57 Chris Mattmann <

mattm...@apache.org>

>>> ha scritto:

>>> 

>>>> Thanks Matt. My feeling is th

Re: Establish whether "Apache Joshua" is a suitable name

[Chris Mattmann]

Done.



On 3/5/18, 2:34 PM, "lewis john mcgibbney"  wrote:

Hi Folks,
I've been working with a few folks on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-97 [0]. This
essentially to determine whether the Joshua name can be trademarked and
used moving forward if we wished, as a PPMC/PMC, to do this.
Can folks please mention your opinions on that thread? If so, we can move
on.
Thank you
Lewis

[0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-97

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Re: [REPORT] Apache Joshua (Incubating)

[Chris Mattmann]

LGTM!
+1


On 2/7/18, 9:55 PM, "lewis john mcgibbney" <lewi...@apache.org> wrote:

JoshuaJoshua is a statistical machine translation toolkitJoshua has
been incubating since 2016-02-13.Three most important issues to
address in the move towards graduation:  1. Draft Graduation
Resolution  2. Identifying specific use cases that Joshua might excel
at.  3. Attracting active developers and users.Any issues that the
Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to beaware of?Joshua PPMC
are in the process of moving towards an initial graduation resolution
draft.How has the community developed since the last report?The PPMC
has decided not to use the 7.X branch as new master.Current master
branch has more features and we have decided touse it as the basis for
moving forward.How has the project developed since the last report?New
work is going in to updating the Homebrew Formula. Thiswill make
Joshua available with some 50 or so language packs.Essentially, this
will make Joshua the most comprehensivelypackaged open source machine
translation library available.How would you assess the podling's
maturity?Please feel free to add your own commentary.  [X] Initial
setup  [X] Working towards first release  [X] Community building  [X]
Nearing graduation  [ ] Other:Date of last release:  2017-06-22When
were the last committers or PPMC members elected?  - 2016-11-16
Michael A. Hedderich (mhedderich) joins the Joshua PPMC +
Committership.  - 2016-11-16 Tobias Domhan (tdomhan) joins the Joshua
PPMC + Committership.  - 2016-11-02 Max Thomas (mthomas) joins the
Joshua PPMC + Committership.Signed-off-by:  [ ](joshua) Paul Ramirez
  Comments:  [X](joshua) Lewis John McGibbney Comments:  [
    ](joshua) Chris Mattmann Comments:  [ ](joshua) Tom Barber
Comments:



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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

[Chris Mattmann]

ion; Tommaso has 
repeatedly helped with tasks large and small; and that is just three of you. 
It's too bad therefore that the timing just didn't work out, but neural MT 
ascended very rapidly. I know there are other members here who are also 
thinking along these lines. At the same time, I hope my departure from active 
development doesn’t mean the end of the project for those of you who wish to 
keep working on it. 

Sincerely,
matt


> Le 25 sept. 2017 à 23:10, Tommaso Teofili <tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> a 
écrit :
> 
> I would also think we're ready for graduation.
> My only concern relates to how many of the current committers are willing
> to keep contributing to the project, basically if we have a PMC which is
> big enough for the graduation.
> 
> Regards,
> Tommaso
> 
    > 
> Il giorno sab 23 set 2017 alle ore 01:21 Chris Mattmann 
<mattm...@apache.org>
> ha scritto:
> 
>> Tom, glad you raised this issue, IMO, Joshua is ready for TLP.
>> 
>> We’ve:
>> 
>> 1. Added new PPMC/committers
>> 2. Made a release
>> 3. Been friendly and cordial and welcoming on the lists
>> 4. Vetted the software
>> 5. Have some decent, emerging docs
>> 
>> Graduation time…Thoughts?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> 
>> P.S. Subject line change to officially turn this into a [DISCUSS] and
>> hopefully
>> a [VOTE]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/22/17, 4:19 PM, "Tom Barber" <t...@spicule.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>So I've not checked against the checklist on the podling page yet, but
>> what
>>do people feel is missing from Joshua prior to graduation?
>> 
>>I'd like to see some non mentors ship a release so we know we've got
>> the
>>docs right, but of course it doesn't have to be a major release.
>> Similarly
>>was all the licensing stuff resolved etc?
>> 
>>I'm curious as its not a very fast paced project and it feels like 
ones
>>like Joshua could sit in the incubator for years without causing much
>>trouble but also not graduating. I'm not in any great rush, but what 
do
>>people feel about it?
>> 
>>Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

[DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP)

[Chris Mattmann]

Tom, glad you raised this issue, IMO, Joshua is ready for TLP.

We’ve:

1. Added new PPMC/committers
2. Made a release
3. Been friendly and cordial and welcoming on the lists
4. Vetted the software
5. Have some decent, emerging docs

Graduation time…Thoughts?

Cheers,
Chris

P.S. Subject line change to officially turn this into a [DISCUSS] and hopefully
a [VOTE]



On 9/22/17, 4:19 PM, "Tom Barber"  wrote:

So I've not checked against the checklist on the podling page yet, but what
do people feel is missing from Joshua prior to graduation?

I'd like to see some non mentors ship a release so we know we've got the
docs right, but of course it doesn't have to be a major release. Similarly
was all the licensing stuff resolved etc?

I'm curious as its not a very fast paced project and it feels like ones
like Joshua could sit in the incubator for years without causing much
trouble but also not graduating. I'm not in any great rush, but what do
people feel about it?

Tom

Re: modernmt

[Chris Mattmann]

Thanks for sharing Tomasso!



On 7/1/17, 4:55 AM, "Tommaso Teofili" <tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> wrote:

I accidentally found the paper about mmt [1]

[1] :

https://ufal.mff.cuni.cz/eamt2017/user-project-product-papers/papers/user/EAMT2017_paper_88.pdf

Il giorno gio 1 dic 2016 alle ore 22:19 Mattmann, Chris A (3010) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> ha scritto:

> Guys I want to point you at the DARPA D3M program:
>
> http://www.darpa.mil/program/data-driven-discovery-of-models
>
> I’m part of the Government Team for the program. This will be a good
> connection
> to have b/c it’s focused on automatically doing model and code building
> for ML based
> approaches.
>
>
> ++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010)
> Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office (8212)
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-503
> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++
> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
> ++
>
>
> On 12/1/16, 1:15 PM, "Matt Post" <p...@cs.jhu.edu> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for sharing, this is really helpful. I didn't realize that
> Marcello was involved.
>
> I think we can identify with the NMT danger. I still think there is a
> big niche that deep learning approaches won't reach for a few years, until
> GPUs become super prevalent. Which is why I like ModernMT's approaches,
> which overlap with many of the things I've been thinking. One thing I
> really like is there automatic context-switching approach. This is a great
> way to build general-purpose models, and I'd like to mimic it. I have some
> general ideas about how this should be implemented but am also looking 
into
> the literature here.
>
> matt
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:46 PM, John Hewitt <john...@seas.upenn.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > I had a few good conversations over dinner with this team at AMTA in
> Austin
> > in October.
> > They seem to be in the interesting position where their work is
> good, but
> > is in danger of being superseded by neural MT as they come out of
> the gate.
> > Clearly, it has benefits over NMT, and is easier to adopt, but may
> not be
> > the winner over the long run.
> >
> > Here's the link
> > <
> 
https://amtaweb.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/MMT_Tutorial_FedericoTrombetti_wide-cover.pdf
> >
> > to their AMTA tutorial.
> >
> > -John
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3010) <
> > chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow seems like this kind of overlaps with BigTranslate as well..
> thanks
> >> for passing
> >> along Matt
> >>
> >> ++
> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> Principal Data Scientist, Engineering Administrative Office (3010)
> >> Manager, Open Source Projects Formulation and Development Office
> (8212)
> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> Office: 180-503E, Mailstop: 180-503
> >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
> >> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> ++
> >> Director, Information Retrieval and Data Science Group (IRDS)
> >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> WWW: http://irds.usc.edu/
> >> ++
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/1/16, 4:47 AM, "Matt Post" <p...@cs.jhu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>Just came across this, and it's really cool:
> >>
> >>https://github.com/ModernMT/MMT
> >>
> >>See the README for some great use cases. I'm surprised I'd never
> heard
> >> of this before as it's EU funded and associated with U Edinburgh.
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>

Re: Merging 7.X into master??? + cleaning up branches

[Chris Mattmann]

Hey Team,

I recommend that Joshua consider adopting the Tika and/or Nutch contribution
policy RE: branches and Git:

https://github.com/apache/tika/#contributing-via-github
https://github.com/apache/nutch/#contributing

Cheers,
Chris



On 6/27/17, 9:36 PM, "lewis john mcgibbney"  wrote:

Hi Folks,
Two things...

   1. Currently the branches for Joshua are a bit of a mess... it would be
   better if they were named after JIRA issues such that the mappings back 
to
   some concrete development were explicit. Does anyone want to clean these 
up?
   2. Now that 6.1-incubating is released and live, Is there any desire to
   merge 7.X branch into master and continue development there? I was not
   involved with the 7.X development but it looked like a significant step
   forward... it would be a shame for that work to stagnate.

Thanks,

lewis

-- 
http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/
@hectorMcSpector
http://www.linkedin.com/in/lmcgibbney

Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Joshua 6.1 incubating release

[Chris Mattmann]

Very cool Suneel – we’d love to have your help! ☺



On 6/22/17, 10:59 PM, "Suneel Marthi"  wrote:

Congrats on the release.

I have been a silent lurker on this channel since I first heard of Joshua
last September at Amazon, Berlin.

Tommaso and myself recently did a talk at Berlin Buzzwords 2017 -
'Embracing Diversity - searching over multiple languages' [1]
using Apache Joshua for Machine Translation, and Apache OpenNLP for
Language detection.

I have been wondering how much of the present VLPS can be replaced by
OpenNLP with Flink/Beam pipelines.
I did a talk last week at Hadoop Summit, San Jose about 'Large Scale Text
processing with Apache OpenNLP and Apache Flink [2].

Also that Thrax which is presently MapReduce based, can definitely be
ported over to modern streaming distributed frameworks like Flink/Kafka
Streams/Beam.


[1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrWxySF-9KY=20=2s=PLq-odUc2x7i-9Nijx-WfoRMoAfHC9XzTt
[2] https://www.slideshare.net/SuneelMarthi/large-scale-text-processing


Regards,
Suneel

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 1:44 AM, Tommaso Teofili 
wrote:

> Il giorno gio 22 giu 2017 alle ore 18:31 John Hewitt <
> john...@seas.upenn.edu>
> ha scritto:
>
> > Related note: I've begun to announce to the Penn NLP communities; I can
> > talk to Mark Liberman at the LDC about getting a note in there as well.
> >
>
> cool, thanks John!
>
>
> >
> > -John
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:11 AM, lewis john mcgibbney <
> lewi...@apache.org
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Tommaso,
> > > EXCELLENT :)
> > > @Matt are you able to Tweet this out and make some tags?
> > > @Tommaso, where else did you announce this? Is it possible for us to
> make
> > > some more noise on various other communication forums/channels?
> >
>
> I am not sure where else it'd make sense to spread the word, perhaps some
> "candidates" could be Lucene or OpenNLP lists.
>
>
> > > This is brilliant news. Thank you Tommaso for being persistent with 
the
> > > release process, I am glad that we were able to recover the artifacts.
> > > Lewis
> >
>
> yeah, thanks a lot for your help there Lewis.
>
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
>
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 5:55 AM, <
> > > dev-digest-h...@joshua.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Tommaso Teofili 
> > > > To: annou...@apache.org
> > > > Cc: "dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org"  org
> > >
> > > > Bcc:
> > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:54:49 +
> > > > Subject: [ANNOUNCE] - Apache Joshua 6.1 incubating release
> > > > Hi Folks,
> > > >
> > > > The Apache Joshua team (PPMC) is pleased to announce the immediate
> > > > availability of Apache Joshua 6.1 (incubating).
> > > >
> > > > Apache Joshua is a statistical machine translation decoder for
> > > > phrase-based, hierarchical, and syntax-based machine translation,
> > written
> > > > in Java.
> > > >
> > > > Apache Joshua is released as both source code, downloads for which
> can
> > be
> > > > found at ASF dist download site [0] as well as Maven artifacts which
> > can
> > > be
> > > > found on Maven central [1].
> > > >
> > > > The full Jira release report can be found here [3].
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Tommaso (on behalf of Apache Joshua PPMC)
> > > >
> > > > — DISCLAIMER Apache Joshua is an effort undergoing incubation at The
> > > Apache
> > > > Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator PMC.
> > > > Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a 
further
> > > > review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and
> decision
> > > > making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other
> > > successful
> > > > ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a 
reflection
> > of
> > > > the completeness or stability of the code,it does indicate that the
> > > project
> > > > has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.
> > > >
> > > > [0] http://apache.org/dist/incubator/joshua/6.1/
> > > > [1] http://search.maven.org/#search|ga|1|g%3A%22org.apache.joshua%22
> > 
> > > > [3]
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?
> > > > projectId=12319720=12335049
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/
> > > @hectorMcSpector
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lmcgibbney
> > >
> >
>