Chris Nelson wrote:
Cool. It's a plan!
Martin, here's one idea for how we can collaborate. Since test cases
are my favorite kind of documentation, maybe we can us them to help us
get started. Here are some different approaches we could use depending
on where things are at now:
Good: If y
Chris Nelson wrote:
Hi Martin,
I recognize you from Netbeans Issuezilla :) It's great to hear someone
has already started on this. Sounds I'm starting at the same place you
did: looking at the ruby-debug-base c code and looking for the native
methods we would need to implement in JRuby. Ch
On 8/17/07, Tor Norbye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote:
>
> > I implemented a patch which allows a bytelist to be read directly by a
> > lexersource. This ends up with the following (plusses and minuses):
> >
> > + We do not convert the bytelist to a
On 8/17/07, John Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> - "Kenneth McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > However, last I heard, Groovy was really quite absurdly slow in
> > places,
>
> Is it also feasible to assume that you can use other ORM frameworks, like
> Hibernate, safely from within JR
On Aug 15, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote:
I implemented a patch which allows a bytelist to be read directly by a
lexersource. This ends up with the following (plusses and minuses):
+ We do not convert the bytelist to a String in order to parse
during evals
+ We do not save a copy o
- "Kenneth McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, last I heard, Groovy was really quite absurdly slow in
> places,
The typical response I get from the Groovy community on this is that if you
ever hit a slow point, you can simply drop back to Java, code it, and be done.
What's conf
On 8/17/07, Charles Oliver Nutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Kenneth McDonald wrote:
>
> > A related question on the efficiency front. Let's say that, purely for
> > my Ruby code, I define a new subclass of JButton, 'class MyButton <
> > javax.swing.JButton; . . .; end'. Now, I can use those ne
On 8/17/07, Chris Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Cool. It's a plan!
>
> Martin, here's one idea for how we can collaborate. Since test cases are
> my favorite kind of documentation, maybe we can us them to help us get
> started. Here are some different approaches we could use depending on
On 8/17/07, Kenneth McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I think the above is, while fairly accurate, a little harsh. Groovy was
> designed with Java in mind, and its semantics offer effectively all of
> the advantages of Ruby, while integrating with Java much more cleanly.
> In addition, Groo
Kenneth McDonald wrote:
Yes, someone on the know please clarify if Java will be able to see
JRuby subclasses of Java classes. This would be a Good Thing (and I'm
guessing it will happen)
It already does happen. If you extend JButton and implement your own
versions of JButton methods, your ver
Kenneth McDonald wrote:
If you need to do efficient web dev and think Rails is great for that,
if you like Ruby as a language to use, if you don't want to take too
much risk with a language who has a very small community (Groovy vs
Ruby communities). If you want to get rich and save the world f
Probably this is the wrong mailing list to start a Groovy vs Ruby language
debate, but since the can of worms is open, I feel obligated to point out
that it is at best a highly subjective statement to claim that Groovy has
"all the advantages of Ruby", and at worst, misleading. It's obvious that
G
Raphaël Valyi wrote:
- What can't you do with Java integration and JRuby today?
No big limit as far as I know. I think if you extend a Java class in
Ruby, then that class won't look extended from Java. Only Ruby will
see those extensions. Of course changing an object from JRuby also
cha
Serialization/Persistence Fix
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Key: JRUBY-1279
URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JRUBY-1279
Project: JRuby
Issue Type: New Feature
Components: Core Classes/Modules
Affects Versions: JRuby 1.0.0
Cool. It's a plan!
Martin, here's one idea for how we can collaborate. Since test cases are my
favorite kind of documentation, maybe we can us them to help us get
started. Here are some different approaches we could use depending on where
things are at now:
Good: If your code does not have tes
Chris Nelson wrote:
Hi Martin,
I recognize you from Netbeans Issuezilla :) It's great to hear someone
has already started on this. Sounds I'm starting at the same place you
did: looking at the ruby-debug-base c code and looking for the native
methods we would need to implement in JRuby. Ch
Hi Martin,
I recognize you from Netbeans Issuezilla :) It's great to hear someone has
already started on this. Sounds I'm starting at the same place you did:
looking at the ruby-debug-base c code and looking for the native methods we
would need to implement in JRuby. Charles, is this headius br
Martin Krauskopf wrote:
But it's one big mess, since I started in very similar position as
you. A lot of Java coding, some Ruby coding, 8+ year ago C coding. So
I'm still deleting and rewriting what I wrote as I'm getting into the
JRuby APIs (BTW purely documented guys! ;) )
Ups. Should be "p
On 8/13/07, Charles Oliver Nutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Edwin Wong wrote:
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > I was wondering how Bamboo is giving false positives? Is it reporting
> builds
> > as failed when they completed successfully, or the other way around?
> >
> > If you could perhaps let us know
Martin Krauskopf wrote:
Chris Nelson wrote:
Guys,
This sounds like an awesome list of stuff, but a feature that I think
would help a lot of with JRoR projects would be to improve the
debugging experience. Right now the only way to get JRuby on Rails
debugging to work in NetBeans is by setti
Chris Nelson wrote:
Guys,
This sounds like an awesome list of stuff, but a feature that I think
would help a lot of with JRoR projects would be to improve the debugging
experience. Right now the only way to get JRuby on Rails debugging to
work in NetBeans is by setting an undocumented proper
John Wells wrote:
Thanks for the great replies...I'm pondering your answers, but would like a
little clarity on this:
After the core team, JRuby classes would be VERY VERY tricky to
un-obfuscate so JRuby could be a very good way to achieve Ruby
obfuscation even if nobody should do closed
Kenneth McDonald wrote:
I think even half of that would more than justify a .1 release. Very
impressive!
Something I've been wondering about recently, that is definitely related
to a couple of the points below; any guesses as to what sorts of
speedups we can see in the future, and where these
On 8/16/07, Alan McKean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Serialization/Persistence, please. We are proposing a talk at
> RubyConf and are in the middle of doing allocations of resources here
> at GemStone. It would really help if we knew that JRuby was
> compatible with our plans.
Is the contents o
Chris Nelson wrote:
Guys,
This sounds like an awesome list of stuff, but a feature that I think
would help a lot of with JRoR projects would be to improve the debugging
experience. Right now the only way to get JRuby on Rails debugging to
work in NetBeans is by setting an undocumented proper
Thanks for the great replies...I'm pondering your answers, but would like a
little clarity on this:
> > After the core team, JRuby classes would be VERY VERY tricky to
> > un-obfuscate so JRuby could be a very good way to achieve Ruby
> > obfuscation even if nobody should do closed source a
Raphaël Valyi wrote:
- Could you design a Swing application in, say, Matisse, and then
use JRuby for implementing the business logic that drives that
application? i.e. instead of using something like Cheri to write a
Swing app entirely in Ruby...we would seek a hybrid approach (so
Guys,
This sounds like an awesome list of stuff, but a feature that I think would
help a lot of with JRoR projects would be to improve the debugging
experience. Right now the only way to get JRuby on Rails debugging to work
in NetBeans is by setting an undocumented property in a config file. And
On 8/17/07, John Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> [...]
>
> - Could you design a Swing application in, say, Matisse, and then use
> JRuby for implementing the business logic that drives that application?
> i.e. instead of using something like Cheri to write a Swing app entirely
> in
Hi guys,
This email is part of a larger discussion I've been having on the Groovy user
list. Charles and I had discussed some things off-line, and he recommended I
post some questions here.
Feel free to respond to me off-list if you'd feel more comfortable.
A bit of background: I'm the CIO o
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