Re: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Jason Brooks
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 5:39 AM Christian Glombek wrote: > I agree with the sentiment that supporting more OSes is a good thing. > However, I believe it is in the community's best interest to get a working > version of OKD4 rather sooner than later. > +1 An OKD that's close to OCP will come

Re: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Clayton Coleman
> On Jul 25, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > > While "just works" is a great goal, and its relatively easy to accomplish in > the nice, virtualized world of vm's, I've found it is often not the case in > the dirty realm of real physical hardware. Sometimes you must rebuild/replace > a

RE: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Fox, Kevin M
While "just works" is a great goal, and its relatively easy to accomplish in the nice, virtualized world of vm's, I've found it is often not the case in the dirty realm of real physical hardware. Sometimes you must rebuild/replace a kernel or add a kernel module to get things to actually work.

Re: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Clayton Coleman
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:58 AM Fox, Kevin M wrote: > Yeah, There is the question what it is now, and the question what it > potentially should be. I'm asking more from a where should it go standpoint. > > Right now, k8s distro's are very much in the early linux distro days. > Here's how to get

Re: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Josh Berkus
On 7/25/19 6:51 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: > 1. Openshift 4 isn’t flexible in the ways people want (Ie you want to > add an rpm to the OS to get a kernel module, or you want to ship a > complex set of config and managing things with mcd looks too hard) > 2. You want to build and maintain these

Re: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Daniel Comnea
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 5:01 PM Michael Gugino wrote: > I don't really view the 'bucket of parts' and 'complete solution' as > competing ideas. It would be nice to build the 'complete solution' > from the 'bucket of parts' in a reproducible, customizable manner. > "How is this put together"

Re: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Michael Gugino
I don't really view the 'bucket of parts' and 'complete solution' as competing ideas. It would be nice to build the 'complete solution' from the 'bucket of parts' in a reproducible, customizable manner. "How is this put together" should be easily followed, enough so that someone can 'put it

RE: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Yeah, There is the question what it is now, and the question what it potentially should be. I'm asking more from a where should it go standpoint. Right now, k8s distro's are very much in the early linux distro days. Here's how to get a base os going. Ok, now your on your own to deploy anything

Re: Follow up on OKD 4

2019-07-25 Thread Clayton Coleman
> On Jul 25, 2019, at 4:19 AM, Aleksandar Lazic > wrote: > > HI. > >> Am 25.07.2019 um 06:52 schrieb Michael Gugino: >> I think FCoS could be a mutable detail. To start with, support for >> plain-old-fedora would be helpful to make the platform more portable, >> particularly the MCO and