[jira] [Commented] (LOG4J2-1925) Having log4j-core on the compile classpath somehow breaks compilation even if I'm not calling it

2017-09-10 Thread Ralph Goers (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1925?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16160628#comment-16160628 ] Ralph Goers commented on LOG4J2-1925: - Oracle has closed JDK-8186647 as Won't Fix. No

Re: [jira] [Commented] (LOG4J2-2031) Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not reflecting application log function calls)

2017-09-10 Thread Remko Popma
I don't think that this should be the responsibility of the users. The library needs to be safe to use even when used "wrongly". Cases in point: * we prevent infinite recursion when a collection is logged that contains itself * we agreed to catch and suppress exceptions thrown from domain obje

Re: [jira] [Commented] (LOG4J2-2031) Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not reflecting application log function calls)

2017-09-10 Thread Dominik Psenner
In addition to that a less aggressive (or lazy) mode of operation could detect rogue recursions and throw in such a situation to prevent deadlocks. The last mode of operation could do no checks at all, but that mode would not prevent from deadlocks or infinite recursions at all. On 10 Sep 2017 4:

Re: [jira] [Commented] (LOG4J2-2031) Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not reflecting application log function calls)

2017-09-10 Thread Dominik Psenner
I opt that everyone should use the library in a way that makes sure deadlocks cannot happen. Trying to solve this by fancy "deadlock could occur" mechanisms feels wrong. A very restrictive mode of operation could enforce that all arguments passed into a log event must be limited to immutable primi

[jira] [Commented] (LOG4J2-2031) Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not reflecting application log function calls)

2017-09-10 Thread Remko Popma (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-2031?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16160342#comment-16160342 ] Remko Popma commented on LOG4J2-2031: - After thinking about this some more, I think i

[jira] [Assigned] (LOG4J2-2031) Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not reflecting application log function calls)

2017-09-10 Thread Remko Popma (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-2031?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Remko Popma reassigned LOG4J2-2031: --- Assignee: Remko Popma > Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not r

[jira] [Updated] (LOG4J2-2031) Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not reflecting application log function calls)

2017-09-10 Thread Remko Popma (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-2031?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Remko Popma updated LOG4J2-2031: Summary: Messages appear out of order in log file (was: Log4j2 log file not reflecting application