[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-7132) ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's

2016-04-02 Thread Hoss Man (JIRA)

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Hoss Man commented on LUCENE-7132:
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[~mikemccand], [~jpountz] - any theory as to what could cause diff scores to be 
produced between diff test runs even though the Query, Documents & Similarity 
are fixed in Ahmet's TestExplain.testRajeshData?

[~dweiss], [~thetaphi] - any idea what i did to causes this weird 
AccessControlException in TestSimpleExplanations?

> ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's
> -
>
> Key: LUCENE-7132
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7132
> Project: Lucene - Core
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: core/search
>Affects Versions: 5.5
>Reporter: Ahmet Arslan
>Assignee: Steve Rowe
> Attachments: LUCENE-7132.patch, LUCENE-7132.patch, SOLR-8884.patch, 
> SOLR-8884.patch, debug.xml
>
>
> Some of the folks 
> [reported|http://find.searchhub.org/document/80666f5c3b86ddda] that sometimes 
> explain's score can be different than the score requested by fields 
> parameter. Interestingly, Explain's scores would create a different ranking 
> than the original result list. This is something users experience, but it 
> cannot be re-produced deterministically.



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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-7132) ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's

2016-03-31 Thread Andreas Kostyrka (JIRA)

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Andreas Kostyrka commented on LUCENE-7132:
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Just wanted to mention, it seems to affect SOLR 5.4.1 and 5.3.1 at least too.

> ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's
> -
>
> Key: LUCENE-7132
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7132
> Project: Lucene - Core
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: core/search
>Affects Versions: 5.5
>Reporter: Ahmet Arslan
>Assignee: Steve Rowe
> Attachments: LUCENE-7132.patch, SOLR-8884.patch, SOLR-8884.patch, 
> debug.xml
>
>
> Some of the folks 
> [reported|http://find.searchhub.org/document/80666f5c3b86ddda] that sometimes 
> explain's score can be different than the score requested by fields 
> parameter. Interestingly, Explain's scores would create a different ranking 
> than the original result list. This is something users experience, but it 
> cannot be re-produced deterministically.



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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-7132) ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's

2016-03-24 Thread Ahmet Arslan (JIRA)

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Ahmet Arslan commented on LUCENE-7132:
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It is really hard to decipher what is going on inside the good old 
TFIDFSimilarity.

{code:title=TFIDFSimilarity.IDFStats.normalize|borderStyle=solid}
@Override
public void normalize(float queryNorm, float boost) {
  this.boost = boost;
  this.queryNorm = queryNorm;
  queryWeight = queryNorm * boost * idf.getValue();
  value = queryWeight * idf.getValue(); // idf for document
}
{code}

* Why query weight has a IDF multiplicand?
* Why TFIDFSimilarity.IDFStats#value is set to IDF square?
* Why TFIDFSimilarity.IDFStats#value is need even though we have 
TFIDFSimilarity.IDFStats.idf.getValue();
* TFIDFSimilarity.TFIDFSimScorer#score returns tf(freq) * IDFStats.value which 
looks tfxIDFxIDF to me.

> ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's
> -
>
> Key: LUCENE-7132
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7132
> Project: Lucene - Core
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: core/search
>Affects Versions: 5.5
>Reporter: Ahmet Arslan
>Assignee: Steve Rowe
> Attachments: LUCENE-7132.patch, SOLR-8884.patch, SOLR-8884.patch, 
> debug.xml
>
>
> Some of the folks 
> [reported|http://find.searchhub.org/document/80666f5c3b86ddda] that sometimes 
> explain's score can be different than the score requested by fields 
> parameter. Interestingly, Explain's scores would create a different ranking 
> than the original result list. This is something users experience, but it 
> cannot be re-produced deterministically.



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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-7132) ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's

2016-03-23 Thread Ahmet Arslan (JIRA)

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Ahmet Arslan commented on LUCENE-7132:
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Thanks Steve for taking care of this!

> ScoreDoc.score() returns a different value than that of Explanation's
> -
>
> Key: LUCENE-7132
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-7132
> Project: Lucene - Core
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 5.5
>Reporter: Ahmet Arslan
>Assignee: Steve Rowe
> Attachments: LUCENE-7132.patch, SOLR-8884.patch, SOLR-8884.patch, 
> debug.xml
>
>
> Some of the folks 
> [reported|http://find.searchhub.org/document/80666f5c3b86ddda] that sometimes 
> explain's score can be different than the score requested by fields 
> parameter. Interestingly, Explain's scores would create a different ranking 
> than the original result list. This is something users experience, but it 
> cannot be re-produced deterministically.



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