Wayne, that is true. Personally, I am only aware of one guy who ever got
booted. His problem was using the ASF trademark in his own services and
refusing to back down. Because it was a trademark issue, the ASF Board
stepped in and did its thing. The Maven project doesn't have any egregious
issues l
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are two schools of thought amongst the current members of this
> projects PMC.
>
>
Are they mutually exclusive?
>From my (limited [so I could be way off here]) understanding of Apache,
don't you o
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> 2013/7/26 Dennis Lundberg :
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm setting up builds in a local Jenkins to run RAT on all our release roots.
>>
>> I've gotten to Maven 2 now and have some problems on where to get it from...
>>
>> 2.0.x seems to be here:
>> https://s
>> AFAIK, merit at Apache is forever -- you can't have it undone. If someone
>> loses their "Apache first" spirit and begins critical development
>> elsewhere, what can be done about it? Are there any practical recourses? I
>> don't think there is which is why Maven development has that problem tod
On 25 July 2013 22:55, Paul Benedict wrote:
> Agreed. I'll tip my hand and give my opinion: PMC members should have an
> "Apache first" mentality. They are gatekeepers and guardians of their
> project. Spinning off critical code to other OSS organizations should be
> frowned upon -- it splits the
On 23 Jul 2013, at 05:47, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> On 18/07/2013, at 6:36 PM, Stuart McCulloch wrote:
>
>> On 18 Jul 2013, at 05:41, Brett Porter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've got a regression here using the Swagger Maven Plugin [1] that looks
>>> different to the Aether one. Before I go p
>
> There is at least one Maven Committer who has been maintaining a fork of
> Maven for perhaps the greater part of a year.
Is it really a fork? Or is it a superset? I think people throw around
fork but is that really true?
-
To
2013/7/26 Dennis Lundberg :
> Hi
>
> I'm setting up builds in a local Jenkins to run RAT on all our release roots.
>
> I've gotten to Maven 2 now and have some problems on where to get it from...
>
> 2.0.x seems to be here:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/components/branches/maven-2.0.x/
>
It would appear to me to be an evolution from the implicit nature of this
conversation thus far, but whatever, I couldn't care less. I just find
talking about it without talking about it in poor taste.
About the fork, though, I'm interested. I'm interested in why it's
maintained and how it differs
On 25 July 2013 23:15, Fred Cooke wrote:
> So much in-crowd politics and unspoken but apparently well-known material.
>
> Who is the person, who if they were to come across this, would obviously
> know they were being talked about anyway?
>
I would rather we not focus on specific people. This sh
So much in-crowd politics and unspoken but apparently well-known material.
Who is the person, who if they were to come across this, would obviously
know they were being talked about anyway?
Where is the, almost certainly short lived, fork of Maven located? A quick
search failed to reveal this.
S
On 25 July 2013 22:34, Nigel Magnay wrote:
> >
> >
> > Should the PMC encourage people experimenting on new improvements to
> Maven
> > to do that work at the ASF? And if so, should they then practice what
> they
> > preach, and ensure that any experiments with Maven take place on the ASF
> > SCM
+1
Regards,
Hervé
Le mardi 23 juillet 2013 21:45:52 Dennis Lundberg a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This will be the final release of this shared component. After this
> release it will retire from the Apache Maven project and move to the
> Apache Archiva project. See separate vote thread about that.
>
>
Agreed. I'll tip my hand and give my opinion: PMC members should have an
"Apache first" mentality. They are gatekeepers and guardians of their
project. Spinning off critical code to other OSS organizations should be
frowned upon -- it splits the development and wider community into smaller
pieces.
+1
thanks for the hard work
Regards,
Hervé
Le mardi 23 juillet 2013 20:23:19 Dennis Lundberg a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This is the final release of this plugin. After this release it will
> be retired, see separate vote thread for more info on that.
>
> We solved 1 issue:
> http://jira.codehaus.org/
I had a look at this issue a few monthes ago
I'd expect http://maven.apache.org/resource/ (like /plugins/) instead of
http://maven.apache.org/apache-resource-bundles/ .
But I didn't really understand which modules were really useful, and doing
such a change would require doing a release to reall
On 25 July 2013 21:54, wrote:
> Author: rfscholte
> Date: Thu Jul 25 20:54:43 2013
> New Revision: 1507123
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1507123
> Log:
> apply generics
>
> Modified:
>
> maven/plugins/trunk/maven-install-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugin/install/AbstractInstallM
On 7/25/13 4:17 PM, Paul Benedict wrote:
Stephen, those are great questions. Yet, I think these questions are riding
an assumption that PMC members are solely volunteering at Apache, because
the emphasis (as I interpret your words) is to place the Apache project
first/above other external contrib
>
>
> Should the PMC encourage people experimenting on new improvements to Maven
> to do that work at the ASF? And if so, should they then practice what they
> preach, and ensure that any experiments with Maven take place on the ASF
> SCM servers (at least once such experiments become semi-serious
On 25 July 2013 22:17, Paul Benedict wrote:
> Stephen, those are great questions. Yet, I think these questions are riding
> an assumption that PMC members are solely volunteering at Apache, because
> the emphasis (as I interpret your words) is to place the Apache project
> first/above other exter
Hi
I'm setting up builds in a local Jenkins to run RAT on all our release roots.
I've gotten to Maven 2 now and have some problems on where to get it from...
2.0.x seems to be here:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/components/branches/maven-2.0.x/
2.2.x is both here
https://svn.apache.org
Stephen, those are great questions. Yet, I think these questions are riding
an assumption that PMC members are solely volunteering at Apache, because
the emphasis (as I interpret your words) is to place the Apache project
first/above other external contributions. Isn't that the heart of this
debate
Perhaps we could reframe the question a little then (as people seem to be
testing hung up on the committed wording)...
Should the PMC encourage people experimenting on new improvements to Maven
to do that work at the ASF? And if so, should they then practice what they
preach, and ensure that any e
Hi,
I think the point is quite simple.
I agree with Jason that work should be the main criteria if not the only
one.
But as Stephen reminds, we should define "work" in a larger general sense
than just code. Working for the community as worshipped by the ASF can be
pushing code, sure, but also helpi
I don't think it is possible to force volunteer efforts and/or limit
development elsewhere. The idea of supporting a project is a vague notion.
I have my opinions too but this language is clearly unenforceable and
impractical.
Cheers,
Paul
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>
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As a Maven user I think that everybody who is working on a project should
behave the same. Hence, I would say, PMC members should rather certainly
demonstrate how to live the community rules.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com]
Gesend
I think I'm with Ron Wheeler here.
I'd add though: are you a “Project Manager” if you don't contribute to
the project the changes you're doing in a fork? My gut feeling would
be “no”, but that'd be ignoring the amount of contributions to the
project itself (I know who you're talking about, but I h
The section that was added below has nothing to do with the rest of
the document. It should be reverted, as it is basically nonsense as
Jason has just pointed out.
Maven has lots of other problems. This really doesn't seem like one
anyone should be spending any time or energy on.
Stephen
On 25
+1
Op Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:59:49 +0200 schreef Stephen Connolly
:
This vote is to cover the minimum required version of Java for Maven
Core.
Maven Plugins produced by the Apache Maven Project that are flagged as
compatible with older versions of Maven Core as their baseline will still
requ
+1 non-binding
2013/7/25 Mirko Friedenhagen
> +1 non-binding
> On Jul 23, 2013 4:00 PM, "Stephen Connolly" <
> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This vote is to cover the minimum required version of Java for Maven
> Core.
> >
> > Maven Plugins produced by the Apache Maven Project
+1 non-binding
On Jul 23, 2013 4:00 PM, "Stephen Connolly"
wrote:
> This vote is to cover the minimum required version of Java for Maven Core.
>
> Maven Plugins produced by the Apache Maven Project that are flagged as
> compatible with older versions of Maven Core as their baseline will still
> r
Sure, no problem.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Robert Scholte wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
>
> I've just started developing the maven-project-utils and I'm planning to use
> it with at least the maven-site-plugin and maven-release-plugin.
> Hervé and I have some other complex cases which should be sol
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 25 July 2013 17:50, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:34 PM, sebb wrote:
>>> On 25 July 2013 16:55, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
Den 25 jul 2013 16:08 skrev "sebb" :
>
> On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
>>>
Hi Dennis,
I've just started developing the maven-project-utils and I'm planning to
use it with at least the maven-site-plugin and maven-release-plugin.
Hervé and I have some other complex cases which should be solved here.
Let's keep this one. I first release should be possible this year.
Ro
On 25 July 2013 12:17, wrote:
> Author: olamy
> Date: Thu Jul 25 11:17:41 2013
> New Revision: 1506890
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1506890
> Log:
> Use Apache formatting rules.
Strictly speaking, these are the Apache Maven formatting rules.
These rules are not the same for all Apache produc
On 25 July 2013 17:50, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:34 PM, sebb wrote:
>> On 25 July 2013 16:55, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
>>> Den 25 jul 2013 16:08 skrev "sebb" :
On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This will be the final release
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:34 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 25 July 2013 16:55, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
>> Den 25 jul 2013 16:08 skrev "sebb" :
>>>
>>> On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > This will be the final release of this shared component. After this
>>> > release it wi
On 25 July 2013 16:55, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
> Den 25 jul 2013 16:08 skrev "sebb" :
>>
>> On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > This will be the final release of this shared component. After this
>> > release it will retire from the Apache Maven project and move to the
Done.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6591
On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
>>
3. And now that I'm working on this I'd like to get it out of
>> Subversion and push it over to Git, any objections? I'd prefer to do that
>> before making a branch for the
Den 25 jul 2013 16:08 skrev "sebb" :
>
> On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This will be the final release of this shared component. After this
> > release it will retire from the Apache Maven project and move to the
> > Apache Archiva project. See separate vote thread a
>
> >>
> >> 3. And now that I'm working on this I'd like to get it out of
> Subversion and push it over to Git, any objections? I'd prefer to do that
> before making a branch for the older version.
> >>
> >
> > No objection from me.
> >
>
> A JIRA ticket or can I just hop in IRC and ask someone fro
On Jul 25, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> 2013/7/23 Jason van Zyl :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I updated the plugin-testing tools to work with Maven 3.1.0 to help Manfred
>> get the Android Maven Plugin's test harness working with 3.1.0. A couple
>> things:
>>
>> 1. There is an @Override for a me
On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This will be the final release of this shared component. After this
> release it will retire from the Apache Maven project and move to the
> Apache Archiva project. See separate vote thread about that.
>
> We solved 6 issues:
> http://jira.co
On 23 July 2013 19:23, Dennis Lundberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is the final release of this plugin. After this release it will
> be retired, see separate vote thread for more info on that.
>
> We solved 1 issue:
> http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11135&styleName=Html&versio
I really appreciate your regularly inserted pieces of Irish humour and
often chuckle at them! Keep that up! :-)
What matters most to me is not the Apache legal stuff, nor good
behaviour/political correctness, rather it's technical excellence and
honesty in achieving it, even if at the expense of h
There are two schools of thought amongst the current members of this
projects PMC.
Without wanting to deliberately tip my hand and reveal where my opinion is,
we would like to solicit the opinions if the community that we serve.
Please give us your thoughts.
The topic is essentially:
Do you wan
2013/7/23 Jason van Zyl :
> Hi,
>
> I updated the plugin-testing tools to work with Maven 3.1.0 to help Manfred
> get the Android Maven Plugin's test harness working with 3.1.0. A couple
> things:
>
> 1. There is an @Override for a method implemented for an interface which you
> can only start d
Hi,
Simply create an issue here http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/DOXIA and
attach your patch.
2013/7/24 Mark Schenk :
> All,
>
>
>
> In noticed that images within tables are not properly rendered, for example:
>
>
>
> ||Symbol||Description||
>
> |!images/symbol.png!|text|
>
>
>
> Doesn’t result in
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