Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-10 Thread Stephen Connolly
My only concern would be plugins... but since 2.0.9 locked down the plugin versions that should not be as big an issue any more On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the sentiment is fairly clear. I am going to unwind the retrotranslating I put in place

[proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread nicolas de loof
Hello, As you can read at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ * J2SE 1.4.2 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition period*. The EOL transition period began Dec, 11 2006 and will complete October 30th, 2008 I don't think we have plan yet to release maven 2.1, so I think it would be a

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Milos Kleint
+1 Milos On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:02 PM, nicolas de loof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As you can read at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ * J2SE 1.4.2 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition period*. The EOL transition period began Dec, 11 2006 and will complete October

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread nicolas de loof
Once we have the toolchains fully in place and allow easy cross-compiling independently of the JDK running Maven, there seems to be no reason why the build tool shouldn't be run with a higher Java than the minimum JRE for the project under build. This is allready not a limitation : I'm

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
Nicolas De Loof wrote: I don't think we have plan yet to release maven 2.1, so I think it would be a valid to require java 1.5 as minimal runtime. +1 for Maven 2.1, -1 for Maven 2.0.10 (doesn't feel right to bump minimum requirements in a maintenance branch). Once we have the toolchains

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread david
On Sun, 4 May 2008, nicolas de loof wrote: Once we have the toolchains fully in place and allow easy cross-compiling independently of the JDK running Maven, there seems to be no reason why the build tool shouldn't be run with a higher Java than the minimum JRE for the project under build.

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Marat Radchenko
+1 for 2.1, -1 for 2.0.10 On 5/4/08, nicolas de loof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As you can read at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ * J2SE 1.4.2 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition period*. The EOL transition period began Dec, 11 2006 and will complete October 30th,

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Jason Dillon
Perhaps 2.1 needs to be changed to 2.2 and then 2.1 can be used for what would be 2.0.10 + Java5 --jason On May 4, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Marat Radchenko wrote: +1 for 2.1, -1 for 2.0.10 On 5/4/08, nicolas de loof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As you can read at

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread nicolas de loof
That could be an option to keep in mind when/if we define a roadmap for 2.1 release. If a 2.1 release can't be expected soon (i.e some mounth) we could rename it 2.2 and prepare a 2.1 release to be feature equivalent to 2.0.x but require java5. That beeing said, changing requirements for a

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Jesse McConnell
I don't see getting a tremendous amount of benefit from switching 2.0.10 (or whatever you want to call it) to require 1.5 without in turn making however benign changes to the codebase...which would not be fixing issues directly and potentially expressing new ones which largely takes it out of the

RE: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Brian E. Fox
This is already the case for 2.1, and we can't change it in 2.0.10. Just because we used to break peoples' builds with regularity doesn't mean it is going to continue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nicolas de loof Sent: Sunday, May 04,

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread nicolas de loof
Right about leaving 2.0.10 as is, and use it for maintenance purpose only. About 2.1 beeing already java 1.5, I can read this in main POM.xml : artifactIdmaven-compiler-plugin/artifactId !-- Maybe someday... configuration source1.5/source

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 4-May-08, at 10:08 AM, nicolas de loof wrote: Right about leaving 2.0.10 as is, and use it for maintenance purpose only. About 2.1 beeing already java 1.5, I can read this in main POM.xml : artifactIdmaven-compiler-plugin/artifactId !-- Maybe someday...

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread nicolas de loof
I retrotranslated maven-artifact so that users of 1.4 in m2eclipse would not be inconvenienced. I have not retrotranslated XBR as we asked users about 1.5 use on the m2eclipse list and the only people that responded were those who wanted to drop support for 1.4. Why did this happen on

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 4-May-08, at 11:11 AM, nicolas de loof wrote: I retrotranslated maven-artifact so that users of 1.4 in m2eclipse would not be inconvenienced. I have not retrotranslated XBR as we asked users about 1.5 use on the m2eclipse list and the only people that responded were those who

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread nicolas de loof
Right, I missed this thread. I don't understand the Eclipse limitation about required JRE but can believe there is some impacts. As the same EOL applies to eclipse, and many eclipse plugin require java5, could we ignore this platform limitation few users will not survive when maven 2.1 will be

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Garvin LeClaire
+1 for 2.1, -1 for 2.0.10 Regards, Garvin LeClaire [EMAIL PROTECTED] nicolas de loof wrote: Hello, As you can read at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ * J2SE 1.4.2 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition period*. The EOL transition period began Dec, 11 2006 and will

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
Yah, I think that will be the consensus. I don't really want to find out we've jacked up someone's environment by forcing 1.5. Brian did a really awesome job that last release killing many regressions and I'd like to keep it that way. On 4-May-08, at 1:06 PM, Garvin LeClaire wrote: +1

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
+1 for 2.1 Arnaud On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:02 PM, nicolas de loof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As you can read at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ * J2SE 1.4.2 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition period*. The EOL transition period began Dec, 11 2006 and will complete

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Sejal Patel
+1 on maven 2.1 -1 on maven 2.0.x (please don't mess with the current maintenance releases. even feature enhancements should be minimal. just fix regressions mostly) On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Arnaud HERITIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for 2.1 Arnaud On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:02 PM,

Re: [proposal] java5 as minimal runtime for maven 2.1 (and 2.0.10 ?)

2008-05-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
I think the sentiment is fairly clear. I am going to unwind the retrotranslating I put in place and leave 2.1 requiring Java 1.5. On 4-May-08, at 1:35 PM, Sejal Patel wrote: +1 on maven 2.1 -1 on maven 2.0.x (please don't mess with the current maintenance releases. even feature