Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-13 Thread Dan Fabulich
John Casey wrote: On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:47 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: I tweak the test to add a MAVEN_OPTS environment variable, including the -Xrunjdwp string. (It would be easy to add some sugar to Verifier and/or Invoker to make this easier; I didn't want to go fooling around with the Veri

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-13 Thread John Casey
On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:47 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: I tweak the test to add a MAVEN_OPTS environment variable, including the -Xrunjdwp string. (It would be easy to add some sugar to Verifier and/or Invoker to make this easier; I didn't want to go fooling around with the Verifier, so I just c

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-12 Thread Dan Fabulich
John Casey wrote: Not at all; I mean running the test. In order to run one of these tests (which are orchestrated by something akin to the maven-verifier from a JUnit or other java-driven test case), you must run JUnit or whatever, so you can be sure you have the same options enabled, environm

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-12 Thread John Casey
On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote: John Casey wrote: First things first. maven-invoker and maven-invoker-plugin are not separate things. The maven-invoker-plugin uses maven-invoker, but maven-invoker is meant to be a reusable library, not just a plugin. I find this remark q

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-12 Thread Dan Fabulich
John Casey wrote: First things first. maven-invoker and maven-invoker-plugin are not separate things. The maven-invoker-plugin uses maven-invoker, but maven-invoker is meant to be a reusable library, not just a plugin. I find this remark quite confusing... if one is a library, and one is a p

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-12 Thread John Casey
First things first. maven-invoker and maven-invoker-plugin are not separate things. The maven-invoker-plugin uses maven-invoker, but maven-invoker is meant to be a reusable library, not just a plugin. Aside from this, there is actually a good reason for running integration tests using maven

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-12 Thread Mauro Talevi
Dan Fabulich wrote: John Casey wrote: What you're seeing as overlap is a mixture of concerns in the invoker plugin. The verifications beanshell really needs to be migrated out to some sort of proper integration-testing plugin (or, even better, a plugin that unites invoker and verifier under a

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-12 Thread olivier lamy
forgot the maven-plugin-testing-harness ;-) > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dan Fabulich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:07 PM > > To: Maven Developers List > > Subject: Re: Invoker vs. Verifier? >

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-11 Thread Johan Kindgren
From: Dan Fabulich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:07 PM > To: Maven Developers List > Subject: Re: Invoker vs. Verifier? > > John Casey wrote: > > > What you're seeing as overlap is a mixture of concerns in the invoker > > p

RE: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-11 Thread Brian E. Fox
You forgot the maven-plugin-testing-harness ;-) -Original Message- From: Dan Fabulich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:07 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Invoker vs. Verifier? John Casey wrote: > What you're seeing as overlap is a mi

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-11 Thread Dan Fabulich
John Casey wrote: What you're seeing as overlap is a mixture of concerns in the invoker plugin. The verifications beanshell really needs to be migrated out to some sort of proper integration-testing plugin (or, even better, a plugin that unites invoker and verifier under a common configuratio

Re: Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-11 Thread John Casey
What you're seeing as overlap is a mixture of concerns in the invoker plugin. The verifications beanshell really needs to be migrated out to some sort of proper integration-testing plugin (or, even better, a plugin that unites invoker and verifier under a common configuration...then extend

Invoker vs. Verifier?

2007-12-11 Thread Dan Fabulich
Forgive me if I'm picking at a sore spot, but can someone help me understand the difference/overlap between maven-invoker and maven-verifier? As I understand it, they both do roughly the same thing, except one of them is a Maven plugin where you write your test in a goals.txt file + beanshe