Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-19 Thread Lukas Theussl
PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can make that switch stick permanently via the settings.xml, so much the better. +1 (even better, configure number of parallel threads

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Henri Gomez
Question about 2.1.0 / 3.0.0. In 3.0 alpha2 Jason fix a problem with jaxws-maven. Could it be backported to 2.1.0 ? Also did this new 'mileston' will be used in m2eclipse. I know Maven 3.0 is the target for m2eclipse but during the intermin, having a stable and known 2.1 would be nice.

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Brett Porter
On 18/02/2009, at 7:43 PM, Henri Gomez wrote: Question about 2.1.0 / 3.0.0. In 3.0 alpha2 Jason fix a problem with jaxws-maven. Could it be backported to 2.1.0 ? I believe that problem doesn't affect 2.1.0. Also did this new 'mileston' will be used in m2eclipse. I know Maven 3.0 is

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Henri Gomez
2009/2/18 Brett Porter br...@apache.org: On 18/02/2009, at 7:43 PM, Henri Gomez wrote: Question about 2.1.0 / 3.0.0. In 3.0 alpha2 Jason fix a problem with jaxws-maven. Could it be backported to 2.1.0 ? I believe that problem doesn't affect 2.1.0. Nope, the jaxws maven plugin didn't

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Brett Porter
As was highlighted before in these threads, this is a completely different 2.1.0 to the one previously included in m2eclipse (it never has been included): http://www.sonatype.com/people/2008/11/a-visual-history-of-maven-2/ - Brett On 18/02/2009, at 10:32 PM, Henri Gomez wrote: 2009/2/18

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Henri Gomez
I build my JAX-WS project with maven 2.1.0-M1 and it works :) Good news, but could it be used in m2eclipse ? 2009/2/18 Brett Porter br...@apache.org: As was highlighted before in these threads, this is a completely different 2.1.0 to the one previously included in m2eclipse (it never has been

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Brett Porter
On 18/02/2009, at 11:59 PM, Henri Gomez wrote: I build my JAX-WS project with maven 2.1.0-M1 and it works :) Good news, but could it be used in m2eclipse ? It's really something to take up with m2eclipse... but I don't see it happening for the reason I outlined earlier regarding the

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Henri Gomez
2009/2/18 Brett Porter br...@apache.org: On 18/02/2009, at 11:59 PM, Henri Gomez wrote: I build my JAX-WS project with maven 2.1.0-M1 and it works :) Good news, but could it be used in m2eclipse ? It's really something to take up with m2eclipse... but I don't see it happening for the

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Brett Porter
On 18/02/2009, at 4:58 PM, John Casey wrote: Brett Porter wrote: On 18/02/2009, at 7:23 AM, John Casey wrote: It will take less effort for me to just keep working on issues until they are done, so that's what I'll do. So, agreed, next version is 2.1.0, standard RC cycle applies. I'm

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-18 Thread Ralph Goers
2.1 has actually served the purpose it was intended for and should be released. Obviously, the other items that were intended for 2.1 haven't been completed and shouldn't hold things up. So +1 on releasing 2.1.0 now. As for the other items that weren't completed, at this point it is

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-17 Thread Brian E. Fox
- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can make

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-17 Thread John Casey
, 2009 7:44 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can make that switch stick permanently via the settings.xml, so much the better. +1 (even better, configure number of parallel

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Lundberg
. -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can

RE: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-17 Thread Brian E. Fox
it. So I say if we want to get it included, then let's have a release right away -Original Message- From: Dennis Lundberg [mailto:denn...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:50 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm undecided about

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-17 Thread John Casey
. -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-17 Thread Brett Porter
On 18/02/2009, at 7:23 AM, John Casey wrote: I fully agree with Brian about the version naming for the next release. I couldn't possibly care less what version we use at this point, only that we start doing releases again. I want to see 2.1 out as much as anyone. However, it was

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-17 Thread John Casey
Brett Porter wrote: On 18/02/2009, at 7:23 AM, John Casey wrote: It will take less effort for me to just keep working on issues until they are done, so that's what I'll do. So, agreed, next version is 2.1.0, standard RC cycle applies. I'm fine whittling away some of what's left out

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-14 Thread Brett Porter
To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can make that switch stick permanently via the settings.xml, so much the better. +1 (even better, configure number of parallel threads

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-09 Thread John Casey
If it has a decent test suite and is released, I have no problem putting it in, at least early in the RC process (to give it a little soak time). With a strong test suite, I would think this soak period would give us a good enough chance to check site production...though I wonder, will this

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-09 Thread John Casey
I'll rearrange the JIRA versions today, then...it looks like we're all in agreement about moving directly toward 2.1.0 generally. As for the parallel download issue, I guess I'm mainly concerned about hidden race conditions, deadlocks, etc. Just because there are 400 people using it

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-09 Thread Stephen Connolly
2009/2/9 John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org: I'll rearrange the JIRA versions today, then...it looks like we're all in agreement about moving directly toward 2.1.0 generally. As for the parallel download issue, I guess I'm mainly concerned about hidden race conditions, deadlocks, etc. Just

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-09 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
John Casey wrote: I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. +1 Benjamin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-09 Thread Brett Porter
I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can make that switch stick permanently via the settings.xml, so much the better. +1 (even better, configure number of parallel threads, just set it to 1 to turn it off). On 09/02/2009, at 11:18 PM, John

RE: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-09 Thread Brian E. Fox
Yep good idea. -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-09 Thread Paul Benedict
Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) I'm +1 for including it and providing an opt-out switch to turn it off. If we can make that switch stick permanently via the settings.xml, so much the better. +1 (even better, configure number of parallel threads, just set it to 1 to turn

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Don Brown
] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:48 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) It would be a shame to drop such a useful feature like parallel downloads when it is working perfectly and been used by developers for months with no reports of problems

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
Don Brown wrote: Do you have tests that pull down multiple dependencies? Yes, but AFAICT only dependencies from the same group id. If yes, you do have test coverage. [...] I'm not saying more test coverage isn't a good thing, just that this functionality probably does have coverage. The

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
And can't we have an option to deactivate it in 2.1 ? If it works like expected we'll remove it in 3.0 (I continue to be in favor to have tests, but it's really difficult to have a good coverage it can be a cheap solution) Arnaud On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Benjamin Bentmann

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1000 to having it on by default but can be disabled from a CLI option +1 to having it off by default but can be turned on from a CLI option -1000 to not having // downloading just my €0.02 -Stephen 2009/2/8 Arnaud HERITIER aherit...@gmail.com: And can't we have an option to deactivate it in

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
Don Brown wrote: Do you have tests that pull down multiple dependencies? I just added a test that pulls down 16 dependencies, using 4 different group ids and 4 dependencies per group id. The test uses the checksum policy fail to check that the artifacts are intact. What remains to check is

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Bouiaw
From my point of view (and the point of view of many colleagues), the most important feature about 2.1 release is to be able to use the same stable Maven version in m2eclipse and command line. Actually, the only way to have good performances and control on Maven integration in Eclipse is to use

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Nigel Magnay
Umm m2eclipse is using the 3.x branch, not the 2.1 branch. On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Bouiaw bou...@gmail.com wrote: From my point of view (and the point of view of many colleagues), the most important feature about 2.1 release is to be able to use the same stable Maven version in

RE: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Brian E. Fox
Message- From: Bouiaw [mailto:bou...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:53 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) From my point of view (and the point of view of many colleagues), the most important feature about 2.1 release is to be able to use

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Paul Benedict
While I prefer 2.1 to be released soon, I am more interested in bug fixes from 2.0.10 and 2.0.11 than the new features. What do you guys think about moving all of the 2.0.11 tickets to 2.1-M4? I am pretty sure you guys said only show stoppers would go into 2.0.x once it's EOL. Paul

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Bouiaw
here for more details: http://www.sonatype.com/people/2008/11/a-visual-history-of-maven-2/ -Original Message- From: Bouiaw [mailto:bou...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:53 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) From my point

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Lukas Theussl
Picking up the doxia thread: I have the feeling Doxia is never going to get out of it's vicious circle: we are hesitant to release 1.1 because without the site plugin using it, it doesn't get any hard-core testing, and for maven you guys don't want to use it because it hasn't been released

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Brian Fox
Any thing fixed in 2.0.10/11 will be in 2.1+ --Brian (mobile) On Feb 8, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: While I prefer 2.1 to be released soon, I am more interested in bug fixes from 2.0.10 and 2.0.11 than the new features. What do you guys think about moving

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Brian Fox
Is it released yet? The reason it didn't make the previous releases is that it wasn't ready. I think it should be in 2.1 but not 2.0 at this point --Brian (mobile) On Feb 8, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Lukas Theussl ltheu...@apache.org wrote: Picking up the doxia thread: I have the feeling Doxia

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/02/2009, at 10:12 PM, Benjamin Bentmann wrote: Don Brown wrote: Do you have tests that pull down multiple dependencies? I just added a test that pulls down 16 dependencies, using 4 different group ids and 4 dependencies per group id. The test uses the checksum policy fail to check

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-08 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Arnaud, Arnaud HERITIER wrote at Sonntag, 8. Februar 2009 14:33: And can't we have an option to deactivate it in 2.1 ? That would be a really good idea. If it works like expected we'll remove it in 3.0 (I continue to be in favor to have tests, but it's really difficult to have a good

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-07 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
I agree to have a 2.1 ASAP with well tested features. We'll move others like // downloads in a 2.2 Arnaud On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org wrote: Hi everyone, I wanted to step back from the current Maven 2.1.0-M* release plan for a second and reassess our

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-07 Thread Brett Porter
(for some reason this got bounced as spam earlier, so I rewrote it and chopped the quotation in the hope it gets through...) I thought this was already the direction we were going... (see releasing 2.0.10 thread). I already suggested we drop the auto parent version and PGP stuff from the

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-07 Thread Don Brown
: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:12 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) Benjamin Bentmann wrote: John Casey wrote: At that point, we can make plans for a relatively fast release of 2.1.1 for the higher-risk issues that are sitting in the 2.1.0-M

RE: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-07 Thread Brian E. Fox
I don't believe the existing Its test parallel downloads specifically. -Original Message- From: Don Brown [mailto:mr...@twdata.org] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:48 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) It would be a shame to drop

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-07 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
We do need the password security changes finished. Oleg, are you working on the docs or should I put them together based on your blog? Is there anything else left to do in the code? I think that dependency needs to be out of alpha before we go final - I think we discussed that sort of criteria

Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-06 Thread John Casey
Hi everyone, I wanted to step back from the current Maven 2.1.0-M* release plan for a second and reassess our progress on the issues we were planning as the centerpiece for each release. I've been trying to match up the milestone issues found on

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-06 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
John Casey wrote: In light of the above, along with the good stability we've seen in the first milestone release, I'd *much* prefer pushing toward a release of 2.1.0-final. +1. At that point, we can make plans for a relatively fast release of 2.1.1 for the higher-risk issues that are

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-06 Thread John Casey
Benjamin Bentmann wrote: John Casey wrote: At that point, we can make plans for a relatively fast release of 2.1.1 for the higher-risk issues that are sitting in the 2.1.0-M* buckets now...possibly parallel artifact downloads if we can ever get test coverage for that. IMHO the introduction

Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-06 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
I don't really get a vote, but as a user, implementer, and recommender, I heartily agree with this. parallel resolution in 2.2, and tie off a 2.1 final as quickly as possible. Cheers, Christian. On 6-Feb-09, at 12:12 , John Casey wrote: Benjamin Bentmann wrote: John Casey wrote: At that

RE: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts)

2009-02-06 Thread Brian E. Fox
To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 Plans (a proposal of sorts) Benjamin Bentmann wrote: John Casey wrote: At that point, we can make plans for a relatively fast release of 2.1.1 for the higher-risk issues that are sitting in the 2.1.0-M* buckets now...possibly parallel